Re: Ekisei Tsubiho 1
Posted: Mon Apr 13, 2020 8:44 am
If you start reading this way, you might be able to visualize the under the stones position. 
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$$ ---------------------The first move results in a ko (if Black's reply turns out to be optimal), the second move results in death. Therefore, only the first move deserves further reading (starting with Black 2 at 3) to find out whether a better ko or status can be achieved.
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$$ ---------------------[/go]Thank you for your notes!SoDesuNe wrote:$$Wc
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$$ +-----------------[/go]TL;DRI also have difficulties with those "open border"/undefined eye-shape problems. I try to cope with this in two ways: First is starting not with vital points but with eye-space-reducing-moves and submissive replys (if they work I don't need to read complicated stuff). This is simple and can be calculated quite quickly. Second is following the proverb that your opponent's key point is your own.
Disclaimer: I did need a board and stones again, to figure out all the intricacies. Though I have to say, I got to the first four moves on my own and saw a good chunk of the variations.
$$Wc Reducing Black's eye-space
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[go]$$Wc Reducing Black's eye-space
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$$ +-----------------[/go]$$Wc Variation 1: Tearing through
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[go]$$Wc Variation 1: Tearing through
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$$ +-----------------[/go]$$Wc Variation 2: Helping Black build a nice nest
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$$ +-----------------Now you can start going backward. Try
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[go]$$Wc Variation 2: Helping Black build a nice nest
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for example. It still lives (insert effortful practice ; )), so you have to go back even further.
$$Wc Variation 3: where are Black's eyes?
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$$ +-----------------It's time to go deeper now. Recognise the eye-shape, see familair patterns. After the exchange
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[go]$$Wc Variation 3: where are Black's eyes?
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, it is "easy" to see that 'a' is already an eye. The second eye will most likely be around 'b'. Do you have any moves to take away the second eye?
I reckon you will end up in situations where 'c' and 'd' become miai and so Black lives.
With all that out of the way: What did we learn?
1) We have an idea, where Black's eyes will be.
2) When Black responds athe's already alive.
Soseems to be a key point in Black's shape. According to proverb this key point could also work in White's favour!
$$Wc Variation 4: Cutting the eye!
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[go]$$Wc Variation 4: Cutting the eye!
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$$ +-----------------[/go]$$Wc Variation 4: tearing through the 2nd
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[go]$$Wc Variation 4: tearing through the 2nd
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$$ +-----------------[/go]$$Wc Variation 5: Entering the belly of the beast
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$$ +-----------------This gets more complex but can also be made a little bit rational. White should not be so fast and play atari at 'a'. Black will sacrifice this stone and live - please confirm : )
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[go]$$Wc Variation 5: Entering the belly of the beast
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Furthermore when Black cannot capture White with his next move, the atari can be played later as well. If Black plays 'a', White can force 'b' with the same result.
$$Wc Variation 5
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$$ +-----------------So, when you have confirmed that
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[go]$$Wc Variation 5
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$$ +-----------------[/go]is Black's key point to live when White decides to atari right away, why not play there yourself?
$$Bcm4 Variation 5: No ko!
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[go]$$Bcm4 Variation 5: No ko!
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$$ +-----------------[/go]$$Bcm4 Variation 6: Black collapses due to liberty shortage
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[go]$$Bcm4 Variation 6: Black collapses due to liberty shortage
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$$ +-----------------[/go]$$Bcm4 Variation 7: Ko
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[go]$$Bcm4 Variation 7: Ko
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$$ +-----------------[/go]$$Bcm4 Variation 8: If Black refuses the ko...
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$$ +-----------------But did you remember the proverb? Your opponent's key-point is your own?
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[go]$$Bcm4 Variation 8: If Black refuses the ko...
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$$ | X 8 . 3 X O . .
$$ | 1 O O X 2 O . .
$$ | 6 X X O O . . .
$$ | . 5 4 7 . . . .
$$ +-----------------[/go]
$$Bcm4 Variation 9: Guzumi!
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$$ | . X X O O . . .
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[go]$$Bcm4 Variation 9: Guzumi!
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$$ | X . . . X O . .
$$ | . O O X . O . .
$$ | . X X O O . . .
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$$ +-----------------[/go]$$Bcm4 Variation 9: Or not...
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$$ | . O O O O . . .
$$ | . . X X . O . .
$$ | X 4 . . X O . .
$$ | 3 O O X . O . .
$$ | 2 X X O O . . .
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$$ +-----------------So, I guess it's ko?
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[go]$$Bcm4 Variation 9: Or not...
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$$ | . . X X . O . .
$$ | X 4 . . X O . .
$$ | 3 O O X . O . .
$$ | 2 X X O O . . .
$$ | . . 1 . . . . .
$$ +-----------------[/go]
To be fair, this ko is better for Black:
$$Bcm4 Variation 10: Ko²
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$$ | . . X X . O . .
$$ | X . 1 3 X O . .
$$ | . O O X 2 O . .
$$ | 6 X X O O . . .
$$ | 7 4 5 . . . . .
$$ +-----------------(I'm really tired now, so the possibilitiy is high that I missed something ^^)
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[go]$$Bcm4 Variation 10: Ko²
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$$ | X . 1 3 X O . .
$$ | . O O X 2 O . .
$$ | 6 X X O O . . .
$$ | 7 4 5 . . . . .
$$ +-----------------[/go]Start with reducing the eye-space. Play the move, which refuted your last play.
[go]$$Wc vital points with no expectation
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$$ | . O O O O . . .
$$ | . . X X . O . .
$$ | X b a , X O . .
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$$ | . X . O O . . .
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$$ +-----------------[/go][go]$$Wc vital points with no expectation 2
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$$ | X . 4 5 X O . .
$$ | . 3 1 X 5 O . .
$$ | . X 2 O O . . .
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$$ +-----------------[/go][go]$$Wc an idea
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$$ | . . X X . O . .
$$ | X . . , X O . .
$$ | . 1 . X . O . .
$$ | . X . O O . . .
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$$ +-----------------[/go][go]$$Wc Cool clamp
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$$ | 8 6 X X . O . .
$$ | X 5 . , X O . .
$$ | 7 . 2 X . O . .
$$ | 3 X 1 O O . . .
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