Glad I revisited this thread, I'd missed John's post on Shibano!
Anyway, even though this position has many moves played, the LZ opening gospel can still provide guidance, as there a class 2 move available with that lonely 3-4 stone in a corner. The only caveat to the gospel that needs some judgement is "is there an urgent local situation?", it's easier to say no than yes, so then it recommends:
The big low shimari is Elf's top choice, and the high is good too, and better than the human's move. Proselytize!
Gospel: 2, Humans: 0, N/A: 1
Opening problems for AI: Problem 3
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Re: Opening problems for AI: Problem 3
I thought it was black to move and I thought the correct thing is to play in the bottom right. I was right, fat KataGo wanted to 3-3 the bottom right with the win rate of 97%
But since this is white to move, fat KataGo (40b 384c) likes these two moves
the first variation could go something like this
the second variation could go something like this
The percentages are roughly the same, the one it liked initially doesn't look as good if you explore the "main line" but still roughly the same
But since this is white to move, fat KataGo (40b 384c) likes these two moves
- two candidate moves
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- first variation
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- second variation
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