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Re: New book - Ogawa Doteki, Go Prodigy

Posted: Mon Apr 25, 2022 5:48 am
by pwaldron
John Fairbairn wrote:I would be interested in hearing views on multi-volume books.
Speaking personally I like the big volumes. Regardless of format, though, I'm buying anything with John Fairbairn on the front cover.

Re: New book - Ogawa Doteki, Go Prodigy

Posted: Mon Apr 25, 2022 6:12 am
by Ferran
John Fairbairn wrote:That's close to finished but there's too much opposition to doorstep books. (I have thought of a multi-volume series, but I don't think that works here).

Slightly further ahead, I'm working on Honinbo Dochi, but that too is a doorstep problem.
I had a better answer, supposedly posted, but it hasn't come up. So, shorter version, I prefer longer books. Admittedly, I don't have the time to go through and study all the games, but the background information tends to be more thorough, the choice for games wider and if it came in fascicles it would be more difficult to index, and a tad more expensive.
CDavis7M wrote:By the way, I'm working on binding and a multi-volume box seems doable. I've seen a few sets of old Go books with traditional binding and a case like this.
This might have changed, because it's been a while, but I'm not aware that Amazon (or any other worldwide PoD service, actually) offers anything similar.

Take care

Re: New book - Ogawa Doteki, Go Prodigy

Posted: Tue Apr 26, 2022 12:02 pm
by CDavis7M
Ferran wrote:
CDavis7M wrote:By the way, I'm working on binding and a multi-volume box seems doable. I've seen a few sets of old Go books with traditional binding and a case like this.
This might have changed, because it's been a while, but I'm not aware that Amazon (or any other worldwide PoD service, actually) offers anything similar. Take care
It was a joke -- Amazon doesn't employee traditional craftsmen :tmbup: But if Fairbairn does release a multivolume set then maybe I'll make a box for them myself.

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By the way, thanks to everyone for the prompting because I initiated a return of my Shuei book (I have yet to go to the trouble of returning it) and I received another copy that does not have manufacturing defects and in fact -- get excited -- Amazon shipped the book in a fitted box. I've never received a package with this style box before. I always end up getting oversized shipping boxes. Amazon has a new "MADE TO FIT" style box that keeps the book in decent shape. Still not as good as shrinkwrapping the book to an oversized cardboard sheet but it will do. I wish you all luck in receiving books in good condition.
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Re: New book - Ogawa Doteki, Go Prodigy

Posted: Sat May 14, 2022 1:02 pm
by Ferran
Hm... question... when on "extra game 5" it's mentioned that "it's the third oldest game by a woman on record"... the other two are also Yokozeki's or someone else's? GoGoD has four games, that I can see, so I suppose that's it, but the turn of phrase intrigues me.

Related, we don't have female games between her and the later, XIXth c. Hayashi, do we?

Also, in page 97, there's mention of the KK/NK split being related to the Inoue/Honinbo. By the time the KK is formed the Inoue had been off the radar for about a century, I think. What am I missing?

And a suggestion: those significant detours, like that on page 59, would benefit from a small annotation in the content index.

Thank you; I'm enjoying the book. While I like heftier books (not necessarily has hefty as the Genjo-Chitoku, but books with some... gravity), I'm enjoying the chance to read on lesser known figures. There are even some tantalising bits in this book...

Take care.

Re: New book - Ogawa Doteki, Go Prodigy

Posted: Sun May 15, 2022 1:58 am
by John Fairbairn
Related, we don't have female games between her and the later, XIXth c. Hayashi, do we?
Sadly, games are lacking but we do know female pros existed. E.g. Yasui Ryu, elder sister of Yasui IX. The old problems of building a family were even bigger then. But let's not forget that Murasaki Shikibu in Japan, and Chinese women well before her, were evidently players of some skill.
Also, in page 97, there's mention of the KK/NK split being related to the Inoue/Honinbo. By the time the KK is formed the Inoue had been off the radar for about a century, I think. What am I missing?
Looks like you are missing what is written on p. 97 :) The Inoue family (based in Kansai) lasted till modern times. The famous big book Zain Danso also comes into the picture, being based largely on a Kansai/Inoue perspective of the go world. But I've written about that elsewhere (and more an than once).