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Re: Your Opinion on 'The Wire'
Posted: Sun Nov 07, 2010 11:05 am
by Tryphon
From all what I've seen, it's Dexter. Far behind is House M.D. And much further stays the rest (I've started Rome yesterday and it looks very promising).
Re: Your Opinion on 'The Wire'
Posted: Sun Nov 07, 2010 11:30 am
by Jedo
I agree about Dexter(at least the first 2 seasons)
Breaking Bad is also really good
Re: Your Opinion on 'The Wire'
Posted: Sun Nov 07, 2010 11:33 am
by kirkmc
West Wing. Twilight Zone. Honeymooners.
Re: Your Opinion on 'The Wire'
Posted: Sun Nov 07, 2010 12:23 pm
by Monadology
Re: Your Opinion on 'The Wire'
Posted: Sun Nov 07, 2010 2:25 pm
by quantumf
The trinity is Deadwood, The Wire and Breaking Bad.
Re: Your Opinion on 'The Wire'
Posted: Sun Nov 07, 2010 2:59 pm
by kirkmc
quantumf wrote:The trinity is Deadwood, The Wire and Breaking Bad.
Deadwood, yea, forgot about that one. Still no West Wing though...
Re: Your Opinion on 'The Wire'
Posted: Sun Nov 07, 2010 4:20 pm
by Tryphon
Re: Your Opinion on 'The Wire'
Posted: Sun Nov 07, 2010 4:40 pm
by Monadology
Don't get me wrong, I enjoy the books (not that they're exactly fine literature). One of the things I find distasteful about the show is it's not willing to be despicable. It's too busy making Dexter into a family man.
There are a number of other problems like a reliance on plot contrivances and pointless cruelty for the sake of drama. I won't deny it's entertaining, though.
If you find the series funny, I recommend the books. Dexter has a much drier, cutting wit in them.
Re: Your Opinion on 'The Wire'
Posted: Sun Nov 07, 2010 5:06 pm
by Tryphon
Monadology wrote:Don't get me wrong, I enjoy the books (not that they're exactly fine literature). One of the things I find distasteful about the show is it's not willing to be despicable. It's too busy making Dexter into a family man.
That's precisely what I find despicable, especially in season 3. I may read the books one day, but since it'll be a translation, I'm afraid of the result.
Re: Your Opinion on 'The Wire'
Posted: Tue Nov 09, 2010 1:52 pm
by SpongeBob
Jedo wrote:I must warn you, season 6 is...

Nope, can't agree on this one.
(Who said there's no use for the batman icon ???)
Re: Your Opinion on 'The Wire'
Posted: Wed Nov 10, 2010 2:07 am
by kirkmc
Regarding 24: the first few seasons are very good, but it goes downhill pretty quickly. It eventually becomes a parody of itself, and starts to re-use plot ideas in the last couple of seasons, and even steals some from books that are well enough known to be noticeable. One of the problems in the series is that Jack Bauer is a totally wooden character. Even though the writers try to make him have some sort of life as the series goes on, they fail. He does not change at all, other than making a few grimacing reflections about whether he should be doing what he's doing. (But you always know he'll keep on doing it.) He's a machine; he's a comic book character. The show is a thrill to watch at times, but I could have done without the last two seasons. In the first few episodes of the last season, some things were so ridiculous that I broke out laughing.
Re: Your Opinion on 'The Wire'
Posted: Wed Nov 10, 2010 12:59 pm
by sixko
Not a big fan of The Wire but I will say this, "The king stay the king."
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0B-QE_g3JPU
Re: Your Opinion on 'The Wire'
Posted: Wed Nov 10, 2010 1:53 pm
by SpongeBob
kirkmc wrote:One of the problems in the series is that Jack Bauer is a totally wooden character.
I like him anyways. I also like Clint Eastwood, about whom Sergio Leone once said: he has two facial expressions - one with and one without hat.
Re: Your Opinion on 'The Wire'
Posted: Wed Nov 10, 2010 3:09 pm
by Tryphon
Clint Eastwood and Sergio Leone seemed to really like each other a lot

Re: Your Opinion on 'The Wire'
Posted: Thu Nov 11, 2010 3:27 am
by kirkmc
SpongeBob wrote:kirkmc wrote:One of the problems in the series is that Jack Bauer is a totally wooden character.
I like him anyways. I also like Clint Eastwood, about whom Sergio Leone once said: he has two facial expressions - one with and one without hat.
Yes, but that's only for a few movies. With Jack Bauer, you go through 8 seasons of it, and it gets a bit boring. He never, ever has fun in the series. There are no moments of levity, of humanity at all. Don't get me wrong: as an action series, it is well constructed, in the early seasons at least. But it's just a bit dark over the long term.