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82. Aphelion[5k] vs Numsgil[5k]

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Re: 82. Aphelion[5k] vs Numsgil[5k]

Posted: Fri Nov 19, 2010 3:20 pm
by Aphelion
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[go]$$Bcm13 Move 13
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I'm deciding to jump out. While I love the joseki where Black gets the corner in sente, I think it is too unheedful of the pressing issues on the board. The influence I gain from the following joseki should not only limit White's moyo on the left, it also has an eye on the potential fight on the right when White tries to save his lone stone.

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[go]$$Bcm13 Expected joseki
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Re: 82. Aphelion[5k] vs Numsgil[5k]

Posted: Fri Nov 19, 2010 4:19 pm
by Numsgil
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[go]$$Wcm14 Move 14
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Strategy and Thoughts
Okay, that's an option, too. I chose the low response because it secures the corner better and balances with my middle star stone. Black will try to turn around and attack my pincer stone, but I should be able to gain reasonable profit along the top. Black starts to build up some center influence, though, which I'll have to work around in the future.

Re: 82. Aphelion[5k] vs Numsgil[5k]

Posted: Fri Nov 19, 2010 5:45 pm
by Aphelion
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[go]$$Bcm15 Move 15
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Trigger:
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[go]$$Bcm15 Move 15
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Thoughts:
His low stone leaves the shoulder hit at d13 open in the future. It might make it easier to reduce the left if it looks like he is trying to make it too large.

Re: 82. Aphelion[5k] vs Numsgil[5k]

Posted: Fri Nov 19, 2010 6:58 pm
by Numsgil
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[go]$$Wcm16 Move 16
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Strategy and Thoughts
What? Tenuki? Am I crazy?

Yes, let's establish that right now :)

Also, there's a joseki variation I want to try on the top, but it requires a favorable ladder. Barring black capping my running move (which would be silly), even if black defends locally this white jump out is the ladder breaker I need on the top.

What if black ignores my tenuki and breaks things up on the top? I'll use my new found wall to start attacking stones on the right side and build up some influence.

Basically my plan consists of:

Step 1: Collect Underpants Play ladder breaker
Step 2: ...
Step 3: Profit!

Re: 82. Aphelion[5k] vs Numsgil[5k]

Posted: Fri Nov 19, 2010 8:57 pm
by Aphelion
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[go]$$Bcm17 Move 17
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I saw him do this in Kerby's game too: tenuki seriously urgent points, but Kerby responded too much and was never able to claim his due. I'm collecting my punishment now. Letting me get solid here will greatly improve my ability to deal with his left. He can't do much to my right, he is still weak himself.

Re: 82. Aphelion[5k] vs Numsgil[5k]

Posted: Fri Nov 19, 2010 10:41 pm
by Numsgil
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[go]$$Wcm18 Move 18
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Strategy and Thoughts
Well, he's not one to let you tenuki if he can punish it locally... There might be a way to use that productively in the future.

Anyway, the goal now is to build up central influence, and keep black low on this side. Central influence should work well with my stones on the left.

I don't expect to get sente out of this.

Re: 82. Aphelion[5k] vs Numsgil[5k]

Posted: Sat Nov 20, 2010 1:12 pm
by Aphelion
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[go]$$Wcm18 Move 18
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Out of the below options I was looking at only this seems any good. The problem with tenukiing is that a White play at this current location is big and feels semi-sente. I am also pretty certain I won't get sente after invading the left to clean this up. So I will take this sente for now and let that stone die.

All flawed analysis, can't be bothered to clean up:
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[go]$$Wcm18 Move 18
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Wasn't quite expecting this, could be a good move. There's a few ways to respond to this between 'a', 'b', and 'c' or even possibly 'd' at some point, but all options solidify his group. 'a' certainly gives him too much outside influence to be worth playing now.

He can't do much to the komoku, so I will deal with the urgent area on the board right now - the left.

Edit:

In the middle of posting my move I suddenly thought of this:

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Re: 82. Aphelion[5k] vs Numsgil[5k]

Posted: Sat Nov 20, 2010 5:11 pm
by Numsgil
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[go]$$Wcm20 Move 20
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Strategy and Thoughts
Okay, black wants his corner safe. Let's make honte and see what he does next.

The board is still pretty even, so no need to go too crazy. If black doesn't invade my left corner soon, I'll probably spend my next sente to protect it.

Re: 82. Aphelion[5k] vs Numsgil[5k]

Posted: Sat Nov 20, 2010 8:50 pm
by Aphelion
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[go]$$Bcm21 Move 21
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Vacilitated between this and approaching, went with this due to sente + no desire for weak group.

Re: 82. Aphelion[5k] vs Numsgil[5k]

Posted: Sat Nov 20, 2010 11:23 pm
by Numsgil
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[go]$$Wcm22 Move 22
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[go]$$Wcm32 Move 32
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Let me know if you want to do something crazier :)

Strategy and Thoughts
So we met up on KGS and did a best of 5 series (I won 3-1). I think we both have some ideas about the other's weaknesses. I dare say running battles favor me (:P). Throwing stones around inside a moyo in an attempt to invade does not.

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I was sort of playing with the idea of trying out a joseki where white gets sente, but honestly I don't mind the nice wall I get from this, even with gote.

Witness the power of my moyo. Obviously it's not going to all turn in to territory. In fact, since it covers mostly the center, very little of it will probably become territory. But if white decides to invade I'll get the running battle game I'm looking for.

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[go]$$Wcm32 Move 32
$$ {LN C14 P10}
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For the sake of fairness, black has a moyo too. His involves fewer lines so it's closer to being proper territory. It's a bit smaller than my moyo, but not by a large degree.

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[go]$$Wcm32 Move 32
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In terms of score, on the board it's fairly close, but white has sente. So trying to be fancy probably put me a bit behind.

Re: 82. Aphelion[5k] vs Numsgil[5k]

Posted: Sat Nov 20, 2010 11:59 pm
by Aphelion
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Played a few games against Numsgil on KGS, impatient reading cost me very dearly and I lost overall. Twice, I got murdered by zombie groups that wont' stay down. I'm glad this is a slow game, sometimes my opponent will throw stuff out and hope it sticks, and its to my discredit that it works more often than not.

On actual game. This move feels so big, I have to get it, even if means allowing white a move on the left.

Re: 82. Aphelion[5k] vs Numsgil[5k]

Posted: Sun Nov 21, 2010 1:18 am
by Numsgil
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Strategy and Thoughts
He took a big move, since it's the pivot of our two moyos.

So I'll take the other big point pivot. Normally this move would be too loose, but since it functions as a reduction of his moyo first and an expansion of my moyo second, I can probably get away with it.

After this I'll count the score and decide whether I need to try and invade his moyo or if I can just reduce (unless he invades me first).

Re: 82. Aphelion[5k] vs Numsgil[5k]

Posted: Sun Nov 21, 2010 11:38 am
by Redundant
White should not have played this variation of the 3-3. He should have taken sente somehow (there's a bunch of ways to do this).

Re: 82. Aphelion[5k] vs Numsgil[5k]

Posted: Sun Nov 21, 2010 6:06 pm
by Aphelion
That move looks too loose considering the Black's solidity in that area. I want to start a fight there but need to think about how is the best way to go about it.

Re: 82. Aphelion[5k] vs Numsgil[5k]

Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2010 10:25 am
by Aphelion
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[go]$$Bcm45 55 - 57 at a ,b ,c
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