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Re: Embarassing Go moments?
Posted: Fri May 07, 2010 9:54 am
by Bill Spight
When I was 4 or 5 kyu, in a position like this one:
$$B Oops!
$$ --------------------------
$$ . O X X . O O O 1 X X O . .
$$ . O O X X X X X X X O . O .
$$ . . . O O . . . O X O . . .
$$ . , . O X X X X O O O . . ,
$$ . . O . O O O O . . . . . .
$$ . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
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[go]$$B Oops!
$$ --------------------------
$$ . O X X . O O O 1 X X O . .
$$ . O O X X X X X X X O . O .
$$ . . . O O . . . O X O . . .
$$ . , . O X X X X O O O . . ,
$$ . . O . O O O O . . . . . .
$$ . . . . . . . . . . . . . .[/go]
Also, when I was about 7 kyu, I ataried a stone on the second line, and then tried to remove it from the board. I had thought a long time over the move, and I knew that I had "captured" it. I just hadn't removed its last liberty.

Re: Embarassing Go moments?
Posted: Fri May 07, 2010 9:58 am
by xDragon
i had captured a stone at a club game, and i picked up my own stone instead. it took me a bit to realize what i did...
other than that i havent really had embarrassing moments. havent been playing long enough
Re: Embarassing Go moments?
Posted: Fri May 07, 2010 10:01 am
by Kirby
Bill Spight wrote:When I was 4 or 5 kyu, in a position like this one:
$$B Oops!
$$ --------------------------
$$ . O X X . O O O 1 X X O . .
$$ . O O X X X X X X X O . O .
$$ . . . O O . . . O X O . . .
$$ . , . O X X X X O O O . . ,
$$ . . O . O O O O . . . . . .
$$ . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
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[go]$$B Oops!
$$ --------------------------
$$ . O X X . O O O 1 X X O . .
$$ . O O X X X X X X X O . O .
$$ . . . O O . . . O X O . . .
$$ . , . O X X X X O O O . . ,
$$ . . O . O O O O . . . . . .
$$ . . . . . . . . . . . . . .[/go]
Also, when I was about 7 kyu, I ataried a stone on the second line, and then tried to remove it from the board. I had thought a long time over the move, and I knew that I had "captured" it. I just hadn't removed its last liberty.

Bill Spight was 7k at one time?

Re: Embarassing Go moments?
Posted: Fri May 07, 2010 10:17 am
by ChradH
Kirby wrote:Bill Spight was 7k at one time?

Obviously 7ks then were much better than 7ks today

Re: Embarassing Go moments?
Posted: Fri May 07, 2010 10:24 am
by fwiffo
I entered my first tournament as a 5 kyu. I was facing a 3 kyu I think, and was in a completely won position. There was part of the board that looked something like this.
$$W
$$ . . . . . . . . . .
$$ . . . . . X . X . .
$$ . . X . X X O . . .
$$ X X . . X O X X 1 .
$$ X O O O O O X O . .
$$ X O X X X X X O . .
$$ . X O O . O O . . .
$$ . X . . . . . . . .
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[go]$$W
$$ . . . . . . . . . .
$$ . . . . . X . X . .
$$ . . X . X X O . . .
$$ X X . . X O X X 1 .
$$ X O O O O O X O . .
$$ X O X X X X X O . .
$$ . X O O . O O . . .
$$ . X . . . . . . . .[/go]
That's not the exact position, but it was something like this. The dragons involved were actually much bigger. The important part is the net, the number of liberties and

there. Of course, I was in a completely won position (lots of dead white stones, 40-50 points ahead at least), all I had to do was connect.

was just played as sente endgame. The problem was, at that point in my go career I'd played maybe half a dozen serious games on a real board. I hadn't had anyone to play in meatspace until recently, so all my games were online. I wasn't used to the somewhat crooked stones that happen on a real board. I thought I was connected. I played tenuki, big endgame elsewhere on the board. My heart sank with white's next move.
Re: Embarassing Go moments?
Posted: Fri May 07, 2010 11:10 am
by Kirby
I realized that I hadn't seriously replied to this thread, yet. Awhile back, I played a game against Diana Koszegi. I had a large handicap, so the game was going alright. It was getting toward the end of the game, and I had felt that I had already won, when she played the marked move.
$$Bcm1
$$ --------------------
$$ . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ . . . O X . . . . . |
$$ . . . O X . . . . . |
$$ . . . O X . X . . . |
$$ . . . O O X W X X . |
$$ . . . O . O O O . . |
$$ . . . O . O . X O . |
$$ . . . . O . . O . . |
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[go]$$Bcm1
$$ --------------------
$$ . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ . . . O X . . . . . |
$$ . . . O X . . . . . |
$$ . . . O X . X . . . |
$$ . . . O O X W X X . |
$$ . . . O . O O O . . |
$$ . . . O . O . X O . |
$$ . . . . O . . O . . |[/go]
At this point, I totally freaked out, and killed myself:
$$Bcm1
$$ --------------------
$$ . . . . . 9 . 8 . . |
$$ . . . O X 7 4 . . . |
$$ . . . O X . 3 2 6 . |
$$ . . . O X 1 X 5 . . |
$$ . . . O O X O X X . |
$$ . . . O . O O O . . |
$$ . . . O . O . X O . |
$$ . . . . O . . O . . |
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[go]$$Bcm1
$$ --------------------
$$ . . . . . 9 . 8 . . |
$$ . . . O X 7 4 . . . |
$$ . . . O X . 3 2 6 . |
$$ . . . O X 1 X 5 . . |
$$ . . . O O X O X X . |
$$ . . . O . O O O . . |
$$ . . . O . O . X O . |
$$ . . . . O . . O . . |[/go]
$$Wcm10
$$ --------------------
$$ . . . . . X . O . . |
$$ . . . O X X O . 2 3 |
$$ . . . O X . X O O . |
$$ . . . O X X X X . 1 |
$$ . . . O O X O X X . |
$$ . . . O . O O O . . |
$$ . . . O . O . X O . |
$$ . . . . O . . O . . |
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[go]$$Wcm10
$$ --------------------
$$ . . . . . X . O . . |
$$ . . . O X X O . 2 3 |
$$ . . . O X . X O O . |
$$ . . . O X X X X . 1 |
$$ . . . O O X O X X . |
$$ . . . O . O O O . . |
$$ . . . O . O . X O . |
$$ . . . . O . . O . . |[/go]
Re: Embarassing Go moments?
Posted: Fri May 07, 2010 11:12 am
by GoCat
A few years back, playing a strong (4D, maybe?) at our local club. He and I had played a couple times on 6 stones -- I was always crushed. Anyway, in this one game (complete with a couple beers), I thought I had something going. A real attack on his stones! Holy crap, I can capture those! So I play my move, and start removing a small number of white stones, until he says "Hay, what are you doing?" and I realized the group I was removing still had a liberty.
I didn't mind doing that back in my DDK days but as an SDK? And to do that against a very strong player who was so kind to offer a friendly game... all I could do was to mumble something about "next round's on me!"
And, of course, without capturing that group, black lost miserably.
Re: Embarassing Go moments?
Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2012 7:41 am
by hailthorn011
Stable wrote:My most embarrassing moment - reading Araban's post and having to sit here for 5 minutes until I figured out why it wasn't worth points...

I still don't get it. Mind explaining?
Re: Embarassing Go moments?
Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2012 8:01 am
by speedchase
it isn't worth points because black gets +5 points for the stones, but white gets +4 points because there a four fewer white stones in her territory, and +1 point because there is 1 more dead black stone, so the net change in score is +0
Re: Embarassing Go moments?
Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2012 8:02 am
by hyperpape
You should just count it.
Re: Embarassing Go moments?
Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2012 1:48 pm
by HermanHiddema
The following game I played last year, against another 4d. In itself, it is quite a terrible game by me. But the real embarrassment, for both of us, is at the end of the game record.
The last move in this game record is O15.
My opponent somehow thought that this moved kills my group. Not so, I can live by playing O16.
I, however thought that I had miai options of O16 and N18 to live. Not true either.
So, I tenuki and start playing endgame (not in the game record), because hey, I'm alive right? And my opponent also starts playing endgame, because hey, it's dead right?
We must've played endgame for over 50 moves, and all the while, the audience is utterly confused on why neither of us plays in the upper right any more. Why are we playing small endgame when there is a huge unsettled group like that?
Then finally, when we're down to moves smaller than 5 points, my opponent decides to play P15 "just to remove aji", and accidentally kills my group.
Not my brightest moment
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/21377571/Go/Games/2011/2011-10-23%20-%20Indis%20-%20Herman%20Hiddema%20-%20Frederik%20Spanhoff.sgf
Re: Embarassing Go moments?
Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2012 7:06 pm
by Fedya
My bad play doesn't embarrass me; it makes me angry.

Re: Embarassing Go moments?
Posted: Mon Aug 20, 2012 5:17 am
by gasana
I'm often reading but not really posting, but i think this thread make a good way to say hello...
I was black and spent almost ten minutes reading this to be really sure! It ended up i read all that time with reverted colors...
http://swissgo.org/galleries/displayima ... 159&pos=68
Re: Embarassing Go moments?
Posted: Mon Aug 20, 2012 5:20 am
by topazg
gasana wrote:I'm often reading but not really posting, but i think this thread make a good way to say hello...
I was black and spent almost ten minutes reading this to be really sure! It ended up i read all that time with reverted colors...
http://swissgo.org/galleries/displayima ... 159&pos=68
Oh that disgusting joseki. It should be banned
Hello by the way

Re: Embarassing Go moments?
Posted: Mon Aug 20, 2012 8:24 am
by Inkwolf
Heh, Reminds me of a terrible game I played not too long ago one morning on KGS. It was still really early in the game, but my opponent was efficiently attacking, invading and killing every single formation I had begun to create on the board. Finally he started to ladder one of my moves. I thought he read it wrong, and did the ladder halfway across the board until I realized, he hadn't. He said, "Read much?" or something snarky like that. I could only apologize and resign. I don't play morning games since then, not without testing my alertness by playing Gnu Go first.