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Re: Loose - luigi vs topazg

Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2012 10:27 am
by luigi
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[go]$$Bcm11 :black: 8| :white: 7
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . 3 . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . X . 1 2 . |
$$ | . . . , . . , . . , O . . |
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$$ | . . X , . . , . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O O . . |
$$ | . . . , . . , . . , X 5 . |
$$ | . . O . . . . O . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . 4 . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ -----------------------------[/go]
Let's see how this turns out. :scratch:
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[go]$$Bcm11 :black: 8| :white: 7
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . 3 . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . X . 1 2 . |
$$ | . . . , . . , . . , O . . |
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$$ | . . X , . . , . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O O . . |
$$ | . . . , . . , . . 0 X 5 . |
$$ | . . O . . . . O 9 X 8 . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . 7 6 4 . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ -----------------------------[/go]
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[go]$$Bcm21 :black: 8| :white: 7
$$ -----------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . X . X O . |
$$ | . . . , . . , . . , O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X , . . , . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O O 0 . |
$$ | . . . , . . , 6 2 O X X . |
$$ | . . O . . . 5 O X X O 1 . |
$$ | . . . . . 7 4 3 X O O 8 . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . 9 . . . |
$$ -----------------------------[/go]
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[go]$$Bcm31 :black: 8| :white: 7
$$ -----------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . X . X O . |
$$ | . . . , . . , . . , O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X , . . , . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O O O . |
$$ | . . . , . . , O O O X X . |
$$ | . . O . . . X O X X O X . |
$$ | . . . . . X O X X O O O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . X . 1 . |
$$ -----------------------------[/go]
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[go]$$Bcm31 :black: 8| :white: 7
$$ -----------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . X . X O . |
$$ | . . . , . . , . . , O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X , . . , . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O O O . |
$$ | . . . , . . , O O O X X . |
$$ | . . O . . . X O X X O X . |
$$ | . . . . . X O X X O O O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . X . O 2 |
$$ -----------------------------[/go]
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[go]$$Bcm31 :black: 8| :white: 7
$$ -----------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . X . X O . |
$$ | . . . , . . , . . , O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X , . . , . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O O O . |
$$ | . . . , . . , O O O X X . |
$$ | . . O . . . X O X X X X 3 |
$$ | . . . . . X O X X X X X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . X . X X |
$$ -----------------------------[/go]
Maybe?

Re: Loose - luigi vs topazg

Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2012 11:02 am
by Bill Spight
Never mind. ;)

Re: Loose - luigi vs topazg

Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2012 4:22 pm
by topazg
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[go]$$Bcm11 :black: 8| :white: 8
$$ -----------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . 3 . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . X . 1 2 . |
$$ | . . . , . . , . . , O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X , . . , . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O O . . |
$$ | . . . , . . , . . , X 5 . |
$$ | . . O . . . . O . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . 6 4 . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ -----------------------------[/go]

Re: Loose - luigi vs topazg

Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2012 11:36 pm
by luigi
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[go]$$Bcm11 :black: 9| :white: 8
$$ -----------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . 3 . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . X . 1 2 . |
$$ | . . . , . . , . . , O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X , . . , . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O O . . |
$$ | . . . , . . , . . , X 5 . |
$$ | . . O . . . . O . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . 7 6 4 . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ -----------------------------[/go]

Re: Loose - luigi vs topazg

Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2012 11:47 pm
by luigi
I've moved the poll to a thread of its own.

Re: Loose - luigi vs topazg

Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2012 2:04 pm
by topazg
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[go]$$Bcm11 :black: 9| :white: 9
$$ -----------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . 3 . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . X . 1 2 . |
$$ | . . . , . . , . . , O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X , . . , . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O O . . |
$$ | . . . , . . , . . , X 5 . |
$$ | . . O . . . . O 8 X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . 7 6 4 . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ -----------------------------[/go]

Re: Loose - luigi vs topazg

Posted: Sun Mar 11, 2012 12:51 am
by luigi
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[go]$$Bcm11 :black: 10| :white: 9
$$ -----------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . 3 . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . X . 1 2 . |
$$ | . . . , . . , . . , O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . 9 . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X , . . , . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O O . . |
$$ | . . . , . . , . . , X 5 . |
$$ | . . O . . . . O 8 X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . 7 6 4 . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ -----------------------------[/go]
To my limited understanding, my 11 was a mistake. Hopefully I'll have exchanged my lower right corner for his upper right, but he has more influence.
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[go]$$Bcm11 :black: 10| :white: 9
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . X . X O . |
$$ | . . . , . . , . . , O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . 0 X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X , . . , . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O O . . |
$$ | . . . , . . , . . , X X . |
$$ | . . O . . . . O O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ -----------------------------[/go]
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[go]$$Bcm21 :black: 10| :white: 9
$$ -----------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . X . X O . |
$$ | . . . , . . , . . , O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . 2 O X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . 3 1 . . |
$$ | . . X , . . , . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O O . . |
$$ | . . . , . . , . . , X X . |
$$ | . . O . . . . O O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ -----------------------------[/go]
This doesn't work for White, so I'll guess he'll play 20 around l7. But who knows what's in a dan player's head? :)

Re: Loose - luigi vs topazg

Posted: Sun Mar 11, 2012 12:59 pm
by topazg
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[go]$$Bcm11 :black: 10| :white: 9
$$ -----------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . 3 . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . X . 1 2 . |
$$ | . . . , . . , . . , O 0 . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . 9 . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X , . . , . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O O . . |
$$ | . . . , . . , . . , X 5 . |
$$ | . . O . . . . O 8 X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . 7 6 4 . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ -----------------------------[/go]
Pushy squeezy? This could be very interesting... Hopefully he can force me to do something about the top side "naturally" here

Re: Loose - luigi vs topazg

Posted: Sun Mar 11, 2012 6:15 pm
by luigi
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[go]$$Bcm21 :black: 11| :white: 10
$$ -----------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . X . X O . |
$$ | . . . , . . , . . , O O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . 1 . . |
$$ | . . X , . . , . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O O . . |
$$ | . . . , . . , . . , X X . |
$$ | . . O . . . . O O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ -----------------------------[/go]
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[go]$$Bcm21 :black: 11| :white: 10
$$ -----------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . X . X O . |
$$ | . . . , . . , . . , O O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . 2 5 X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . 3 1 4 . |
$$ | . . X , . . , . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O O . . |
$$ | . . . , . . , . . , X X . |
$$ | . . O . . . . O O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ -----------------------------[/go]
21 at l9 seems worse:
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[go]$$Bcm21 :black: 11| :white: 10
$$ -----------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . X . X O . |
$$ | . . . , . . , . . 3 O O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . 6 2 1 X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . 5 4 7 . |
$$ | . . X , . . , . . , 8 . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O O . . |
$$ | . . . , . . , . . , X X . |
$$ | . . O . . . . O O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ -----------------------------[/go]

Re: Loose - luigi vs topazg

Posted: Mon Mar 12, 2012 2:11 am
by topazg
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[go]$$Bcm21 :black: 11| :white: 10
$$ -----------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . X . X O . |
$$ | . . . , . . , . 2 , O O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . 1 . . |
$$ | . . X , . . , . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O O . . |
$$ | . . . , . . , . . , X X . |
$$ | . . O . . . . O O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ -----------------------------[/go]
At some point I'm going to have to be pretty careful here. This is an interesting fight. The right side is very large if he decides to push towards the middle here, but so's his top right ... alternatively, he can pretty much save his side group, but the top is then very unclear for either side.

Re: Loose - luigi vs topazg

Posted: Mon Mar 12, 2012 10:25 pm
by luigi
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[go]$$Bcm21 :black: 12| :white: 11
$$ -----------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . X . X O . |
$$ | . . . , . . , 3 2 , O O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . 1 . . |
$$ | . . X , . . , . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O O . . |
$$ | . . . , . . , . . , X X . |
$$ | . . O . . . . O O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ -----------------------------[/go]

Re: Loose - luigi vs topazg

Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2012 2:22 am
by topazg
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[go]$$Bcm21 :black: 12| :white: 11
$$ -----------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . X . X O . |
$$ | . . . , . . , 3 2 , O O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . 4 . . X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . 1 . . |
$$ | . . X , . . , . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O O . . |
$$ | . . . , . . , . . , X X . |
$$ | . . O . . . . O O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ -----------------------------[/go]
Now I can aim to gut there as well as kill the right. I should get at least one of them hopefully!

Re: Loose - luigi vs topazg

Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2012 7:34 pm
by luigi
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[go]$$Bcm21 :black: 13| :white: 12
$$ -----------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . X . X O . |
$$ | . . . , . . , 3 2 , O O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . 4 . . X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . 5 . . 1 . . |
$$ | . . X , . . , . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O O . . |
$$ | . . . , . . , . . , X X . |
$$ | . . O . . . . O O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ -----------------------------[/go]
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[go]$$Bcm21 :black: 13| :white: 12
$$ -----------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X . . . 0 9 X . X O . |
$$ | . . . , . . 8 3 2 , O O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . 6 4 . . X . |
$$ | . . . . . . 7 5 . . 1 . . |
$$ | . . X , . . , . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O O . . |
$$ | . . . , . . , . . , X X . |
$$ | . . O . . . . O O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ -----------------------------[/go]
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[go]$$Bcm31 :black: 13| :white: 12
$$ -----------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . 1 . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X . . . O X X . X O . |
$$ | . . . , . . O X O , O O . |
$$ | . . . . . 3 2 O O . . Y . |
$$ | . . . . . . X X . . Y . . |
$$ | . . X , . . , . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O O . . |
$$ | . . . , . . , . . , X X . |
$$ | . . O . . . . O O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ -----------------------------[/go]
The status of the marked stones is dubious. If they're dead, I think :b27: at g9 is preferable.

Re: Loose - luigi vs topazg

Posted: Wed Mar 14, 2012 7:11 am
by topazg
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[go]$$Bcm21 :black: 13| :white: 13
$$ -----------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . 6 X . X O . |
$$ | . . . , . . , 3 2 , O O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . 4 . . X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . 5 . . 1 . . |
$$ | . . X , . . , . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O O . . |
$$ | . . . , . . , . . , X X . |
$$ | . . O . . . . O O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ -----------------------------[/go]

Re: Loose - luigi vs topazg

Posted: Wed Mar 14, 2012 11:18 pm
by luigi
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[go]$$Bcm21 :black: 13| :white: 13
$$ -----------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . 7 . . X . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . 6 X . X O . |
$$ | . . . , . . , 3 2 , O O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . 4 . . X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . 5 . . 1 . . |
$$ | . . X , . . , . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O O . . |
$$ | . . . , . . , . . , X X . |
$$ | . . O . . . . O O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ -----------------------------[/go]
This is getting scary!
:shock:
An example sequence:
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[go]$$Bcm21 :black: 14| :white: 13
$$ -----------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . 7 . . X . . |
$$ | . . X . . . 8 6 X 9 X O . |
$$ | . . . , . . , 3 2 , O O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . 4 . . X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . 5 0 . 1 . . |
$$ | . . X , . . , . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O O . . |
$$ | . . . , . . , . . , X X . |
$$ | . . O . . . . O O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ -----------------------------[/go]
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[go]$$Bcm31 :black: 14| :white: 13
$$ -----------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . X . . X . . |
$$ | . . X . . . O O X X X O . |
$$ | . . . , . . , X O 6 O O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . O . . X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . X O . X . . |
$$ | . . X , . . , 3 1 2 4 5 . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O O 7 . |
$$ | . . . , . . , . . , X X . |
$$ | . . O . . . . O O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ -----------------------------[/go]
This could be the only variation that favours me, so it's probably wrong... :blackeye:
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