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Re: YMI Shin Kaya

Posted: Mon Nov 12, 2012 10:49 pm
by Annihilist
Inkwolf wrote:
Annihilist wrote:Does anyone know if any less yellow shin-kaya boards exist and where to buy them? Otherwise I'll have to buy boards from other woods.


They do exist. I don't know where you'd buy them in the US (where I assume you are since you're shopping at YMI)

If you look at Shin kaya boards on Google Images, you'll see a lot that have a more natural color, but they all seem to be from European stores.

I think I read that the yellow color comes from a particular method of curing the wood.
I'm in Australia - so Europe is as good as YMI (providing the website is in English).

Re: YMI Shin Kaya

Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2012 12:26 am
by Alguien
Annihilist wrote:Does anyone know if any less yellow shin-kaya boards exist and where to buy them? Otherwise I'll have to buy boards from other woods.

I'm in Australia - so Europe is as good as YMI (providing the website is in English).


My goban.

I bought mine in germany (from Spain), you can see it in that thread. It's not yellow at all, the color in the picture is real (in my screen).

Re: YMI Shin Kaya

Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2012 1:06 am
by Annihilist
Alguien wrote:
Annihilist wrote:Does anyone know if any less yellow shin-kaya boards exist and where to buy them? Otherwise I'll have to buy boards from other woods.

I'm in Australia - so Europe is as good as YMI (providing the website is in English).


My goban.

I bought mine in germany (from Spain), you can see it in that thread. It's not yellow at all, the color in the picture is real (in my screen).
I love this.

I looked on the website and I can't find it - can you link to the specific product? (I can't work my way around the German site very well).

Also, how much did it cost?

Re: YMI Shin Kaya

Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2012 1:48 am
by Alguien
Annihilist wrote:
Alguien wrote:
Annihilist wrote:Does anyone know if any less yellow shin-kaya boards exist and where to buy them? Otherwise I'll have to buy boards from other woods.

I'm in Australia - so Europe is as good as YMI (providing the website is in English).


My goban.

I bought mine in germany (from Spain), you can see it in that thread. It's not yellow at all, the color in the picture is real (in my screen).
I love this.

I looked on the website and I can't find it - can you link to the specific product? (I can't work my way around the German site very well).

Also, how much did it cost?


About the language, I don't speak a work of german and I did everything with the google autotranslation feature in chrome.

About the set, it was the EGC-Set. Maybe it was a limited series and it isn't there anymore. The set page is this one.

The EGC set included :
- a 45x42x3 shin kaya board with a 19x19 grid on one side and 13x13 on the other.
- two jujube bowls.
- yunzi biconvex stones.
- a bag for the bowls and stones.

I also bought the 8.5€ board bag (which was a good decision, it doubles as a 'table cloth' when I play.)

Everything came in a huge (half a dish washer size) box with the things floating in a lot of protective bags, so it all arrived perfectly.

If you're interested I'd suggest you just mail Steffi and Tobias at info@hebsacker-verlag.de, they are nice and helpful people (and they do speak english).

It all cost me: 132.50€ + 30€ shipping to Spain. Total €162,50 taxes included. I'll paste the info in german taken from the response mail, so you can ask for the same set:
Artikel
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1 x Brettschutzhülle mit Go-Zeichen (12-so034) = 8.50 EUR
1 x EGC-Set mit Shinkaya, Yunzi und Jujube (12-so058) = 124.00 EUR
Rückseite 13x13-Brett
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Zwischensumme: 132.50 EUR
Deutscher Paket Dienst (DPD) (Versand nach ES: 1 x 7.87 Kg ): 30.00 EUR
MwSt. 19%: 25.95 EUR
Summe: 162.50 EUR

Re: YMI Shin Kaya

Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2012 3:51 am
by Annihilist
Alguien wrote:snip
I don't think it's there - it's a shame, because I absolutely love the recessed lines.

The colours, however, are better here than on YMI, so it's a definite plus. Thanks.

Edit: Did they specify the lines were engraved? I've never seen a website specify whether the lines were engraved or painted.

Re: YMI Shin Kaya

Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2012 4:04 am
by Phelan
WenMing wrote:The cat picture is definitely a classic. There should be a caption contest.

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New thread? :razz:

Re: YMI Shin Kaya

Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2012 5:05 am
by Alguien
Annihilist wrote:
Alguien wrote:snip
I don't think it's there - it's a shame, because I absolutely love the recessed lines.

The colours, however, are better here than on YMI, so it's a definite plus. Thanks.

Edit: Did they specify the lines were engraved? I've never seen a website specify whether the lines were engraved or painted.


I think it was specified.

I'd send them a mail in case they still keep one stocked somewhere. It did look like a limited edition related in some way to the EGF. Maybe there's someone in the forum who knows about that.

It should be easy to see in a good picture whether the lines are engraved.

For example, in another board they have (http://www.hebsacker-verlag.de/go-brett ... -3747.html) you can clearly see in the pictures that the lines are painted.

I'm starting to feel really lucky I found my goban :mrgreen:

Re: YMI Shin Kaya

Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2012 5:20 am
by Annihilist
Alguien wrote:
Annihilist wrote:
Alguien wrote:snip
I don't think it's there - it's a shame, because I absolutely love the recessed lines.

The colours, however, are better here than on YMI, so it's a definite plus. Thanks.

Edit: Did they specify the lines were engraved? I've never seen a website specify whether the lines were engraved or painted.


I think it was specified.

I'd send them a mail in case they still keep one stocked somewhere. It did look like a limited edition related in some way to the EGF. Maybe there's someone in the forum who knows about that.

It should be easy to see in a good picture whether the lines are engraved.

For example, in another board they have (http://www.hebsacker-verlag.de/go-brett ... -3747.html) you can clearly see in the pictures that the lines are painted.

I'm starting to feel really lucky I found my goban :mrgreen:
Yes, it seems hard to find. Even when I google image search "go board engraved lines" I'm lucky if i see a goban.

Thank you for your help - I think I'll shoot them an email and see what they have, although that board looks nice, I could go for that instead.

Re: YMI Shin Kaya

Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2012 7:01 pm
by kfx17
This my new goban from YMI with refference colour

Re: YMI Shin Kaya

Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2012 8:09 pm
by Annihilist
kfx, is that the 1.2"?

Re: YMI Shin Kaya

Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2012 8:30 pm
by kfx17
Board measures 18-1/4''L x 17''W x 2''H (46.5cm x 43cm x 5cm). I think is good colour and nice grain pattern.

Re: YMI Shin Kaya

Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2012 8:55 pm
by xed_over
Inkwolf wrote:
Faro wrote:Do you know if it is Chinese or Japanese standard?


I think it's Chinese standard, but to be honest I don't know.

the lines on a chinese board form squares. the lines on a japanese board form rectangles (just slightly longer than wide)

Re: YMI Shin Kaya

Posted: Sun Nov 18, 2012 7:35 pm
by DrQuantum
kfx17 wrote:Board measures 18-1/4''L x 17''W x 2''H (46.5cm x 43cm x 5cm). I think is good colour and nice grain pattern.


Excellent :) I just bought that very board from YMI... and it seems I must have gotten the last 2" Shin-Kaya they had in stock, because it doesn't appear on their website as a purchase option since I made the purchase :) That color looks quite nice compared to the earlier much more yellow ones.

Re: YMI Shin Kaya

Posted: Sun Nov 18, 2012 7:36 pm
by DrQuantum
DrQuantum wrote:
kfx17 wrote:Board measures 18-1/4''L x 17''W x 2''H (46.5cm x 43cm x 5cm). I think is good colour and nice grain pattern.


Excellent :) I just bought that very board from YMI... and it seems I must have gotten the last 2" Shin-Kaya they had in stock, because it doesn't appear on their website as a purchase option since I made the purchase :) That color looks quite nice compared to the earlier much more yellow ones.


Whoops! Spoke too soon. Looks like it's back in stock :)

Re: YMI Shin Kaya

Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2012 6:14 am
by gogameguru
Annihilist wrote:I'm in Australia - so Europe is as good as YMI (providing the website is in English).
This may be too late to be useful, but if you're in Sydney you could go to Younggil's Go School and get a nice shin kaya board, while also saving yourself the cost of postage. Maybe you'll even have time for a lesson while you're there :).
(note: not the boards in the photo of the school, those are agathis, but with the same dimensions and with a whiter hue, like spruce should have)

If you're not in Sydney, we could also post one, which would save you a lot of money on international shipping. They're not up on our website yet, but they will be before the end of this month.