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Re: 37th Kisei
Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2013 8:08 am
by quantumf
lovelove wrote:b93 is hane for sure if my eyes aren't wrong.
Your eyes are definitely wrong (or you're looking at the wrong move) - see the definition for hane
http://senseis.xmp.net/?HaneThe important part of the definition is bending around your opponent's stones.
Re: 37th Kisei
Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2013 8:26 am
by HKA
quantumf wrote:lovelove wrote:b93 is hane for sure if my eyes aren't wrong.
Your eyes are definitely wrong (or you're looking at the wrong move) - see the definition for hane
http://senseis.xmp.net/?HaneThe important part of the definition is bending around your opponent's stones.
Sometimes it is best to look for the source of miscommunication, instead of just being right. B93 in the title match game looks to be hane at the end of two stones. The original question, however, is about the b93 in the challenger match game. It looks like lovelove's eyes are fine, and he is not looking at the wrong move, he is looking at the wrong game.
b93 in the challenger's game looks like a wonderfully thick move to me. It limits white's endgame on the left, more importantly it makes it harder for white to seal black in because of the weak group on the lower left. In fact, it further weakens it enough that white essentially treats it as sente and reaches out to the group with his next two moves.
Re: 37th Kisei
Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2013 11:13 am
by xed_over
HKA wrote:Sometimes it is best to look for the source of miscommunication, instead of just being right.
Oh, if we could all be so careful

Re: 37th Kisei
Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2013 3:13 pm
by ez4u
lovelove wrote:handa711 wrote:How to read the result on Wbaduk? I watched the whole game and still doesn't know who won...
W+5.5
Takao Shinji has
a blog that I read regularly. He was in Kyushu for the game. At the lunch break he posted that Black was better (形勢は、黒が、良さそう) but 3 hours later he posted an update that White stood better, together with the puzzled inquiry, "When/how did White become better?" (白が良さそう。いつの間に、白が、良くなったんだろ?).
Re: 37th Kisei
Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2013 1:36 pm
by oren
Game 2 starts in about three and a half hours. I think Cho U really needs to take this one.
Re: 37th Kisei
Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2013 5:31 pm
by handa711
Go Cho U!. Dat opening.
Re: 37th Kisei
Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2013 5:40 pm
by oren
Re: 37th Kisei
Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2013 5:43 pm
by msgreg
Does know how to tune in over the web? In English would be awesome, too...
Re: 37th Kisei
Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2013 7:01 pm
by hailthorn011
msgreg wrote:Does know how to tune in over the web? In English would be awesome, too...
They're playing it out on Wbaduk.
Re: 37th Kisei
Posted: Sat Feb 02, 2013 3:43 pm
by Uberdude
Iyama won game 2, seemed quite convincing to me. His reading just felt sharper the way he kept surviving all over the left side of the board, in somewhat a reversal of styles as I thought Cho was the one whose groups were 'charmed' and hard to kill.
http://igokisen.web.fc2.com/jp/37kiseit2.sgf
Re: 37th Kisei
Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2013 3:05 pm
by oren
Game 3 will start in two hours in Toyama.
Re: 37th Kisei
Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2013 3:19 pm
by msgreg
I may have been too late to view the prior game, but I looked on wbaduk.com and couldn't see the game (about 90 minutes after it started, I think). I'm blind, or it was over, or it's hidden. Can anyone provide a link to the page where it will be easily found?
Re: 37th Kisei
Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2013 3:38 pm
by oren
The prior game is here.
http://igokisen.web.fc2.com/jp/kisei.htmlThe game in a couple hours will be easy to find at the top on wbaduk's Japan server. If you have problems after it starts, let me know.
Re: 37th Kisei
Posted: Fri Feb 08, 2013 3:14 am
by handa711
Cho won game 3?
Re: 37th Kisei
Posted: Fri Feb 08, 2013 3:24 am
by p2501
(;SZ[19]GM[1]FF[4]CA[SJIS]ST[2]AP[GOWrite:2.3.46]RE[B+R ]KM[6.50]EV[37. Kisei - 3.Partie]WR[9p]PC[•xŽRŒ§•xŽRŽsuƒI\[ƒNƒXƒJƒiƒ‹ƒp\[ƒNƒzƒeƒ‹•xŽRv]GN[37. Kisei - 3.Partie]DT[2013-02-06 ]FG[259:]PW[Iyama Yuta (Honinbo)]PB[Cho U (Kisei)]BR[9p]PM[2]
;B[qd]
;W[dc]
;B[dp]
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;B[ce]
;W[dh]
;B[fc]
;W[de]
;B[cd]
;W[dd]
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;W[eb]
;B[cb]
;W[ec]
;B[cg]
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;B[bf]
;W[bg]
;B[bh]
;W[ch]
;B[ag]
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;B[oc]
;W[po]
;B[qm]
;W[qk]
;B[om]
;W[qn]
;B[rn]
;W[ro]
;B[pj]
;W[pk]
;B[ok]
;W[oj]
;B[pn]
;W[qo]
;B[qj]
;W[rj]
;B[qh]
;W[ol]
;B[nk]
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;B[oi]
;W[pl]
;B[nj]
;W[pc]
;B[pd]
;W[ll]
;B[jq]
;W[fq]
;B[mq]
;W[iq]
;B[ip]
;W[jp]
;B[kq]
;W[io]
;B[hp]
;W[hq]
;B[ho]
;W[jo]
;B[fp]
;W[eq]
;B[ep]
;W[dq]
;B[cq]
;W[cr]
;B[br]
;W[cp]
;B[bq]
;W[co]
;B[dn]
;W[jr]
;B[kr]
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;B[dr]
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;W[gq]
;B[nr]
;W[or]
;B[lp]
;W[cn]
;B[dm]
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;B[fn]
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;B[cm]
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;B[oq]
;W[pr]
;B[mn]
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;B[oo]
;W[np]
;B[op]
;W[no]
;B[nm]
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;B[ls]
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;B[mc]
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;B[rd]
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;W[rc]
;B[pn]
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;B[rk]
;W[on]
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;B[rg]
;W[mo]
;B[lo]
;W[qi]
;B[ph]
;W[ln]
;B[pn]
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;B[oj]
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;B[hr]
;W[mm]
;B[ir]
;W[qg]
;B[pg]
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;B[lh]
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;B[jh]
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;B[bl]
;W[gf]
;B[jd]
;W[jc]
;B[kd]
;W[le]
;B[id]
;W[hd]
;B[hc]
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edit: switched player colors