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Re: 45. emeraldemon (3k) vs. tj86430 (7k)
Posted: Thu Jun 10, 2010 11:54 am
by tj86430
$$Wcm1 Prisoners: W=0, B=0
Click Here To Show Diagram Code [go]$$Wcm1 Prisoners: W=0, B=0unhidden:
This is getting interesting. There is not much analysis behind this move, but I have a very strong feeling this is the best response. Future will tell.
Re: 45. emeraldemon (3k) vs. tj86430 (7k)
Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2010 12:26 pm
by emeraldemon
$$Wcm1 Prisoners: W=0, B=0
Click Here To Show Diagram Code [go]$$Wcm1 Prisoners: W=0, B=0Unhidden:
Only move. I'm in a tough place, the game may be decided early.
Re: 45. emeraldemon (3k) vs. tj86430 (7k)
Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2010 8:36 pm
by Dusk Eagle
Am I the only one who just would have kept extending along the fourth line on the top and allowed black to try his
ippoji strategy while making tons of semi-solid points?
Note: I'm talking about the white move before last.
Re: 45. emeraldemon (3k) vs. tj86430 (7k)
Posted: Sat Jun 12, 2010 1:45 am
by tj86430
Wow, we have our first (presumably) game related comment. I look forward to reading it some time in the future.
$$Wcm1 Prisoners: W=0, B=0
Click Here To Show Diagram Code [go]$$Wcm1 Prisoners: W=0, B=0Unhidden:
I had decided my response already when I played my last move, but after emeraldemon responded as I expected, I got second thoughts. My original thought was to play R12, but I decided I want to make sure I stay connected and he stays separated. The problem was I had a really hard time deciding which move is the best way to do it.
If he solidifies his right top, I can play R12 to attack his QR14, if he defends that group I can hopefully later attack O17 and potentially get a huge corner
Re: 45. emeraldemon (3k) vs. tj86430 (7k)
Posted: Sun Jun 13, 2010 8:48 am
by emeraldemon
$$Wcm1 Prisoners: W=0, B=0
Click Here To Show Diagram Code [go]$$Wcm1 Prisoners: W=0, B=0Unhidden:
I regret making this invasion now, I've reduced the main moyo, but my top side has been considerably weakened, and that top-right group will be very hard to attack. I wish I had played on the bottom first instead. It will be very hard to come back to my shimari now, also.
Re: 45. emeraldemon (3k) vs. tj86430 (7k)
Posted: Sun Jun 13, 2010 10:55 am
by tj86430
$$Wcm1 Prisoners: W=0, B=0
Click Here To Show Diagram Code [go]$$Wcm1 Prisoners: W=0, B=0Unhidden:
I didn't really expect this, but blocking from this side seems to work better with my stones on the lower side. Other moves I considered were Q11 and R12, but I think Q11 is a bit too territory-oriented, and I hope I can slide to R12 later if necessary.
Re: 45. emeraldemon (3k) vs. tj86430 (7k)
Posted: Mon Jun 14, 2010 8:07 am
by emeraldemon
$$Wcm1 Prisoners: W=0, B=0
Click Here To Show Diagram Code [go]$$Wcm1 Prisoners: W=0, B=0
Re: 45. emeraldemon (3k) vs. tj86430 (7k)
Posted: Mon Jun 14, 2010 8:17 am
by tj86430
$$Wcm1 Prisoners: W=0, B=0
Click Here To Show Diagram Code [go]$$Wcm1 Prisoners: W=0, B=0Unhidden: For once my opponent did exactly what I expected
. I want to keep his group under attack, but I'm pushing from behind so I need to jump, yet N10 would create a lot of cutting points if he pushes through the gap. This seems a very natural choice.
Re: 45. emeraldemon (3k) vs. tj86430 (7k)
Posted: Mon Jun 14, 2010 11:40 am
by emeraldemon
$$Wcm1 Prisoners: W=0, B=0
Click Here To Show Diagram Code [go]$$Wcm1 Prisoners: W=0, B=0
$$Bcm1 Prisoners: W=0, B=0
Click Here To Show Diagram Code [go]$$Bcm1 Prisoners: W=0, B=0If B plays this way I can hope to gain a little by pressuring the cut stones.
$$Bcm1 Prisoners: W=0, B=0
Click Here To Show Diagram Code [go]$$Bcm1 Prisoners: W=0, B=0This way I settle easily and can finally turn to other parts of the board.
Re: 45. emeraldemon (3k) vs. tj86430 (7k)
Posted: Mon Jun 14, 2010 11:48 am
by daniel_the_smith
$$Bcm1 Prisoners: W=0, B=0
Click Here To Show Diagram Code [go]$$Bcm1 Prisoners: W=0, B=0I think black would actually play this way.
Over all, I greatly prefer black's board position at the moment.
Re: 45. emeraldemon (3k) vs. tj86430 (7k)
Posted: Tue Jun 15, 2010 11:40 am
by tj86430
Sorry about the delay, but I won't be able to make my next move until tomorrow.
Re: 45. emeraldemon (3k) vs. tj86430 (7k)
Posted: Tue Jun 15, 2010 1:26 pm
by emeraldemon
Take your time. I'm in no hurry
Re: 45. emeraldemon (3k) vs. tj86430 (7k)
Posted: Wed Jun 16, 2010 1:10 am
by tj86430
$$Wcm1 Prisoners: W=0, B=0
Click Here To Show Diagram Code [go]$$Wcm1 Prisoners: W=0, B=0Unhidden:
My main problem was whether I should stress the safety of my own stones as I believe I'm doing with this move, or keep more pressure on his weak group. Now he can capture R15 if he wants to and his group will probably have easier life, but I will get the corner and have possibilities to expanding it to the left. He will probably come up with a move I haven't anticipated, though
Re: 45. emeraldemon (3k) vs. tj86430 (7k)
Posted: Wed Jun 16, 2010 9:53 am
by emeraldemon
$$Wcm1 Prisoners: W=0, B=0
Click Here To Show Diagram Code [go]$$Wcm1 Prisoners: W=0, B=0
Re: 45. emeraldemon (3k) vs. tj86430 (7k)
Posted: Wed Jun 16, 2010 10:03 am
by daniel_the_smith
. I want to keep his group under attack, but I'm pushing from behind so I need to jump, yet N10 would create a lot of cutting points if he pushes through the gap. This seems a very natural choice.
