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Re: Please Share Your Top 5 English Go Books for Improvement

Posted: Thu Jun 13, 2013 9:45 am
by oren
Kirby wrote:* Top 1% (3 books)


Isn't Top 1% cheating the question? No English release unfortunately. One of these days I'll have to see those books of yours because it somehow got to 14 books in the Japanese edition.

Re: Please Share Your Top 5 English Go Books for Improvement

Posted: Thu Jun 13, 2013 12:22 pm
by Kirby
oren wrote:
Kirby wrote:* Top 1% (3 books)


Isn't Top 1% cheating the question? No English release unfortunately. One of these days I'll have to see those books of yours because it somehow got to 14 books in the Japanese edition.


Sorry, I didn't notice that it indicated "English" go books. In that case, I'll say that I simply like Yilun Yang's (English) books.

Re: Please Share Your Top 5 English Go Books for Improvement

Posted: Fri Jun 14, 2013 9:56 am
by snorri
Kirby wrote:
oren wrote:
Kirby wrote:* Top 1% (3 books)


Isn't Top 1% cheating the question? No English release unfortunately. One of these days I'll have to see those books of yours because it somehow got to 14 books in the Japanese edition.


Sorry, I didn't notice that it indicated "English" go books. In that case, I'll say that I simply like Yilun Yang's (English) books.


What is Top 1%?

Re: Please Share Your Top 5 English Go Books for Improvement

Posted: Fri Jun 14, 2013 10:28 am
by golem7
my top five books that contributed most to my improvement (ordered chronologically)

1. opening theory made easy (when you don't know where to play on that huge empty board)
2. tesuji (teaches you how to read)
3. attack and defense (instant +2 stones as sdk, finally began to understand what's it all about)
4. strategic principles of go (finally understood the concept of aji, essential for dan level)
5. joseki dictionary (ishida, later takao: full of examples of good shape and equal exchanges)

honorable mentions: making good shape, tesuji and anti-suji of go (should have read them earlier)

add tsumego for reading and pro games for instinct and inspiration ;)

Re: Please Share Your Top 5 English Go Books for Improvement

Posted: Thu Jun 20, 2013 3:48 am
by foeZ
Boidhre wrote:5. Opening Theory Made Easy - If you only read one theory book at this level, this is the one. It's a lot more subtle than it appears, it'll still be relevant to you as a weak sdk.


It's still relevant for strong SDK and low dan players. A lot of things are common sense for them but most of it is still worth revisiting every few years.

Re: Please Share Your Top 5 English Go Books for Improvement

Posted: Mon Jun 24, 2013 5:55 am
by RobertJasiek
Top 5 existing English books sorted by improvement potential:
1. First Fundamentals
2a. Joseki 2 Strategy
2b. Fighting Fundamentals
4a. Attack and Defense
4b. Tesuji (Davies)
4c. Strategic Concepts of Go
4d. Lessons in the Fundamentals of Go

Sorry, these are 7 books, but it is too hard to order those at the shared place 4. Place 1 is explained simply by the fact that improvement at DDK is much faster than improvement at SDK. The books have something in common: they strongly rely on conceptual contents or presentation.

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crux, why do you "honorarily" mention Counting Liberties and Winning Capturing Races? The book has several severe factual mistakes at important places. Therefore, the book should not be listed near the top.

Re: Please Share Your Top 5 English Go Books for Improvement

Posted: Thu Jun 27, 2013 1:02 pm
by Hanmanchu
The books which helped me improve the most:

1. Graded Go Problems (Vol. III)
2. Tesuji
3. The Endgame
4. Dictionary of Basic Joseki
5. GO: Invasion & Reduction

#3 really helped me to win more games. #4 really is a selection of good and bad examples, as someone above mentioned. #5 It explained the concept of reduction, and I have read it over and over again.

Of course I read Lessons in the fundamentals of go, but I dont know how much I gained from it.

Re: Please Share Your Top 5 English Go Books for Improvement

Posted: Wed Jul 03, 2013 10:50 am
by NoSkill
1.lessons in the fundamentals of go
2. Improve your intuition series (cheap and small individually, better as a whole)
3. Invincible
4. Lee Chang ho tesuji set
5. None really decided.. I haven't seen a book that would be worth getting that doesn't overlap with the above. Maybe elementary go series life and death?

Re: Please Share Your Top 5 English Go Books for Improvement

Posted: Wed Jul 03, 2013 12:38 pm
by tchan001
Hanmanchu wrote:The books which helped me improve the most:

1. Graded Go Problems (Vol. III)
2. Tesuji
3. The Endgame
4. Dictionary of Basic Joseki
5. GO: Invasion & Reduction

#3 really helped me to win more games. #4 really is a selection of good and bad examples, as someone above mentioned. #5 It explained the concept of reduction, and I have read it over and over again.

Of course I read Lessons in the fundamentals of go, but I dont know how much I gained from it.

Would the Go: Invasion & Reduction be referring to the French edition of Lee Chang Ho's book http://senseis.xmp.net/?GOInvasionEtReduction
or are you talking about Keshi and Uchikomi - Reduction and Invasion in Go? http://senseis.xmp.net/?KeshiAndUchikom ... vasionInGo

NoSkill wrote:1.lessons in the fundamentals of go
2. Improve your intuition series (cheap and small individually, better as a whole)
3. Invincible
4. Lee Chang ho tesuji set
5. None really decided.. I haven't seen a book that would be worth getting that doesn't overlap with the above. Maybe elementary go series life and death?

Lee Chang ho tesuji set is a set rather than a book and this set is not in English.

Re: Please Share Your Top 5 English Go Books for Improvement

Posted: Wed Jul 03, 2013 12:57 pm
by NoSkill
Ah true tami..

Re: Please Share Your Top 5 English Go Books for Improvement

Posted: Thu Jul 04, 2013 10:39 am
by Hanmanchu
@ tchan001:

the first one, by Lee ChangHo. Very good book if you are interested in his style. And a lot of useful middle game techniques. But it's not so much about general prinicples.

Re: Please Share Your Top 5 English Go Books for Improvement

Posted: Fri Jul 26, 2013 2:19 am
by otenki
These are the 5 books that helped me improve a lot and most of them are still helping me improve:

- Weiqi 1000 (http://senseis.xmp.net/?WeiqiLifeAndDeath1000Problems) => okay this is not in english but it does not matter because it is problems. One of the best tsumego book out there.
- Essential life and death series (1-4) (http://senseis.xmp.net/?LevelUpEssentialLifeAndDeath)
- Jump Level up series. (1-5) (http://senseis.xmp.net/?JumpLevelUp)
- Graded go problems for beginners series (http://senseis.xmp.net/?GradedGoProblemsForBeginners)
- Dictionary of basic tesuji (http://senseis.xmp.net/?FujisawaTesujiDictionary)

Re: Please Share Your Top 5 English Go Books for Improvement

Posted: Fri Jul 26, 2013 3:17 am
by tchan001
Otenki's list seems to require a bigger budget than for just 5 books. hehe

Re: Please Share Your Top 5 English Go Books for Improvement

Posted: Fri Jul 26, 2013 4:45 am
by otenki
Weiqi 1000 is only 30 renminbi so the rest has to compensate ;-)

Cheers,
Otenki