Life In 19x19

Arguing with the teacher can be an extended form of asking questions. Pupil: "I do not understand this, how about that?" or "You are wrong because I can play that." The teacher answers, explains more and shows related variations.

Teacher: "Practice more reading problems similar to those just shown." Pupil: "But I do not want to do this!" This kind of arguing would be bad.

Very good feedback and appreciated; thank you! Especially enjoyed the Demo from <wineandgolover> - thx!

I am in Colorado, USA. There is a club with a couple mid-Dan players in Boulder but I don't think there are any in Denver who give lessons.

StarPoint wrote: I am in Colorado, USA. There is a club with a couple mid-Dan players in Boulder but I don't think there are any in Denver who give lessons.

Most people end up doing lessons online nowadays.

often wrote:

Bantari wrote:

often wrote: 1. don't argue with the teacher.

2. DON'T ARGUE WITH THE TEACHER. seriously

I would say that if the need to argue with the teacher is that big, then either you are really grumpy or the teacher is really not good. Given the pupil's willingness to listen and the teacher's skill at explaining his ideas, there should be very little reason to argue.

clearly you don't have this problem
but people do and it's worth reminding people not to

My expectation is that the first thing a teacher will want to teach me is the handicap placement followed by X number of proverbs, and then if I don't progress chide me for not studying enough, following by insisting at beating me with a nine stone handicap traditional placement, insisting on traditional placement, to prove his superior strategy. If I could find a teacher that was really into what I want to do that would be one thing. However, I think only teachers that have gone to some sort of formal school and taken exams are qualified to know more than one or two strategies, and in the US you have just really strong handicap go players.

SmoothOper wrote: My expectation is that the first thing a teacher will want to teach me is the handicap placement followed by X number of proverbs, and then if I don't progress chide me for not studying enough, following by insisting at beating me with a nine stone handicap traditional placement, insisting on traditional placement, to prove his superior strategy. If I could find a teacher that was really into what I want to do that would be one thing. However, I think only teachers that have gone to some sort of formal school and taken exams are qualified to know more than one or two strategies, and in the US you have just really strong handicap go players.

then you have the wrong expectation of go teachers.

perhaps your experience is different than mine, but that is not what a lesson has been about with the different teachers i've gone through

to be sure there are "good" and "bad" teachers, but mostly in respect to how well you may or may not learn from them or understand them.

SmoothOper wrote: My expectation is that the first thing a teacher will want to teach me is the handicap placement followed by X number of proverbs, and then if I don't progress chide me for not studying enough, following by insisting at beating me with a nine stone handicap traditional placement, insisting on traditional placement, to prove his superior strategy. If I could find a teacher that was really into what I want to do that would be one thing. However, I think only teachers that have gone to some sort of formal school and taken exams are qualified to know more than one or two strategies, and in the US you have just really strong handicap go players.

I haven't played a handicap game against my teacher yet, although I think I should at some point. I also have never been given proverbs to follow. Maybe you'll be surprised if you actually got a good teacher.