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Re: Game programs for boards more than 19x19
Posted: Sun Jan 15, 2023 8:33 pm
by Dragon
KataGo has become much better at playing on board 37x37! lightvector, maybe you will make a bs37 version?
Re: Game programs for boards more than 19x19
Posted: Sun Feb 19, 2023 10:01 pm
by And
https://github.com/Remi-Coulom/gogui/issues
Support games with board size bigger than 25
Re: Game programs for boards more than 19x19
Posted: Fri Mar 03, 2023 7:45 am
by And
three years ago, a version of katago appeared for boards up to 29x29. during this time, katago began to play much stronger and better. compare - the game 40b s299 on the board 29x29, 37x37 and 18b on the board 37x37 (the network plays against the same, playouts=3, chinese). 18b on 37x37 plays no worse than 40b on 29x29!
https://discord.com/channels/4170221623 ... 3024967782
Re: Game programs for boards more than 19x19
Posted: Sun Mar 05, 2023 5:55 pm
by And
where did the formula 7+n(n+1) come from? (7 9 13 19 27 37 49 63 79 97 117)
https://littlegolem.net/jsp/forum/topic ... &topic=474
Re: Game programs for boards more than 19x19
Posted: Sun Mar 05, 2023 9:08 pm
by EricBackus
Interesting. It does seem to work fairly well.
I've always liked:
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nextSize = ceiling(currentSize*sqrt(2))
Conceptually, this means that the next board size has at least twice as many squares as the current one. The sequence would be (4 6 9 13 19 27 39 56 80 114)
Or, if you want to ensure odd board sizes, use:
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nextSize = roundToNearestOddInteger(currentSize*sqrt(2))
Conceptually, this means that the next board size is forced to be odd and has roughly twice as many squares as the current one. This sequence would be (5 7 9 13 19 27 39 55 77 109). The Excel code for this is something like =ROUND((previousCell*SQRT(2)-1)/2, 0)*2+1.
Re: Game programs for boards more than 19x19
Posted: Mon Mar 06, 2023 12:10 am
by And
this formula (7+n(n+1)) can be explained as follows: we increase the size of the board 7 by 1 (in all directions) - we get 9, +2=13, +3=19, +4=27, +5=37, +6=49... but why is it so and not otherwise? that is, what is the point of this from the point of view of the game?
Re: Game programs for boards more than 19x19
Posted: Mon Mar 06, 2023 5:16 pm
by And
please, who can do this, make the katago version eigenavx2-windows-x64+bs37. I spent a lot of time and unsuccessfully!
(it is possible in pm)
Re: Game programs for boards more than 19x19
Posted: Mon Mar 13, 2023 7:33 pm
by Amigo
And wrote:please, who can do this, make the katago version eigenavx2-windows-x64+bs37. I spent a lot of time and unsuccessfully!
(it is possible in pm)
can someone do it for a reward?

Re: Game programs for boards more than 19x19
Posted: Mon Mar 13, 2023 7:51 pm
by And
interestingly, katrain versions 1.3.1 - 1.3.3 additionally had a katago-bs52 exe-file
https://github.com/sanderland/katrain/releases?page=2
18B networks of course does not support

Re: Game programs for boards more than 19x19
Posted: Thu Mar 16, 2023 5:23 pm
by And
"...27x27 board...the star points are on the 5th lines."
https://forums.online-go.com/t/large-bo ... p/26548/25
Re: Game programs for boards more than 19x19
Posted: Fri Mar 17, 2023 2:44 am
by And
Lizzieyzy supports very large boards! I tried 1000x1000, it works, saves and loads the sgf! you can connect two katago engines 100x100, matches of two engines
Lizzieyzy
https://github.com/yzyray/lizzieyzy/releases
katago 100x100
https://github.com/lightvector/KataGo/i ... -810368706
q5go supports boards up to 52x52, a game of two engines, matches of two engines
q5go
https://github.com/bernds/q5Go/releases
katago 52x52
https://github.com/lightvector/KataGo/i ... -913116646
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1VlRD3i ... sp=sharing
GoGui supports boards up to 52x52, a game of two engines, matches of two engines
gogui
https://github.com/Remi-Coulom/gogui/releases
KaTrain 1.3.4 playing against the computer on boards up to 52x52, playing the program by itself, katago-bs52 included
https://github.com/sanderland/katrain/r ... tag/v1.3.4
Leela 0.4.6 playing against the computer on boards up to 37x37
https://sjeng.org/dl/setupLeela046.exe
MultiGo supports boards up to 52x52
MultiGo is designed to view/edit Smart-Go format(SGF) go game file. It also supports other popular file format including *.BDX, *.NGF, *.GOS, *.GIB, *.UGF, *.GO. You can easily navigate through the game and branches, add/remove markers and comments, create or edit your own branches. You could use MultiGo to play with GNU Go, or even record/play go video.
multigo
http://www.ruijiang.com/multigo/download.php
Re: Game programs for boards more than 19x19
Posted: Mon Mar 20, 2023 2:16 pm
by And
37x37, b18-s550 - b60-s716 8:2 (both: 10 playouts, chinese, resignThreshold = -0.999)
Re: Game programs for boards more than 19x19
Posted: Tue Mar 21, 2023 2:11 pm
by And
37x37, b18-s550 - b60-s716 6:4 (both: 100 playouts, chinese, resignThreshold = -0.999)
Re: Game programs for boards more than 19x19
Posted: Wed Mar 22, 2023 6:20 pm
by And
37x37, b18-s550 - b60-s716 1:1 (both: 500 playouts, chinese, resignThreshold = -0.999)
Re: Game programs for boards more than 19x19
Posted: Sun Mar 26, 2023 1:13 am
by And
37x37, b18-s550 - b60-s716 1:1 (both: 1000 visits, chinese, resignThreshold = -0.99)