[go]$$Wcm59 Prisoner Count: $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O O . O . . . . . . . . O O O . . | $$ | . X O X X . . X . , . . . O X X . . . | $$ | . . X . . X . . . . . . . . . . X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . | $$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . | $$ | . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . O X X . . . . . . . . . . . , . . . | $$ | . O O . . X . O . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X O . . . X . . . . . . . O . . . | $$ | . . O O . O . . . . . . . . X 1 X . . | $$ | . O . . . . X . X O . . . . . 2 3 . . | $$ | O . O . X X . . . O . . . . . . 4 . . | $$ | . O X X . O O . . , . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . X . . X . . . . O . . X . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
I certainly can, but I don't trust it would work. Not sure whether R8 would have been better than offering you the cut, but it also doesn't feel like it's pushing you to the right side.
Re: 99. topazg vs sevis
Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2011 6:33 am
by topazg
$$Wcm59 Prisoner Count: $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O O . O . . . . . . . . O O O . . | $$ | . X O X X . . X . , . . . O X X . . . | $$ | . . X . . X . . . . . . . . . . X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . | $$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . | $$ | . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . O X X . . . . . . . . . . . , . . . | $$ | . O O . . X . O . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X O . . . X . . . . . . . O . . . | $$ | . . O O . O . . . . . . . . X 1 X . . | $$ | . O . . . . X . X O . . . . . 2 3 5 . | $$ | O . O . X X . . . O . . . . . . 4 . . | $$ | . O X X . O O . . , . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . X . . X . . . . O . . X . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------
[go]$$Wcm59 Prisoner Count: $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O O . O . . . . . . . . O O O . . | $$ | . X O X X . . X . , . . . O X X . . . | $$ | . . X . . X . . . . . . . . . . X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . | $$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . | $$ | . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . O X X . . . . . . . . . . . , . . . | $$ | . O O . . X . O . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X O . . . X . . . . . . . O . . . | $$ | . . O O . O . . . . . . . . X 1 X . . | $$ | . O . . . . X . X O . . . . . 2 3 5 . | $$ | O . O . X X . . . O . . . . . . 4 . . | $$ | . O X X . O O . . , . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . X . . X . . . . O . . X . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
Atari? Extend
@Sevis: That's fair enough - I think one of the biggest keys in Go is not playing your opponent, but the board. If you think you should be able to make points, play for them - it's best not to think "Oh, I won't get it against this person, so I'll do something else instead" most of the time
Re: 99. topazg vs sevis
Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2011 10:24 am
by Sevis
$$Wcm59 Prisoner Count: $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O O . O . . . . . . . . O O O . . | $$ | . X O X X . . X . , . . . O X X . . . | $$ | . . X . . X . . . . . . . . . . X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . | $$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . | $$ | . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . O X X . . . . . . . . . . . , . . . | $$ | . O O . . X . O . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X O . . . X . . . . . . . O . . . | $$ | . . O O . O . . . . . . . . X 1 X . . | $$ | . O . . . . X . X O . . . . . 2 3 5 . | $$ | O . O . X X . . . O . . . . 6 . 4 . . | $$ | . O X X . O O . . , . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . X . . X . . . . O . . X . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------
[go]$$Wcm59 Prisoner Count: $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O O . O . . . . . . . . O O O . . | $$ | . X O X X . . X . , . . . O X X . . . | $$ | . . X . . X . . . . . . . . . . X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . | $$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . | $$ | . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . O X X . . . . . . . . . . . , . . . | $$ | . O O . . X . O . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X O . . . X . . . . . . . O . . . | $$ | . . O O . O . . . . . . . . X 1 X . . | $$ | . O . . . . X . X O . . . . . 2 3 5 . | $$ | O . O . X X . . . O . . . . 6 . 4 . . | $$ | . O X X . O O . . , . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . X . . X . . . . O . . X . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
I can play S7 whenever, I don't think white is going to take it if it means gote. I think I've got a pretty good defence against a 3-3, too. In any case, I should try to get sente ASAP.
@topazg, I know -- I guess this was a (rather failed) attempt to play safer.
Re: 99. topazg vs sevis
Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2011 12:19 pm
by topazg
$$Wcm59 Prisoner Count: $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O O . O . . . . . . . . O O O . . | $$ | . X O X X . . X . , . . . O X X . . . | $$ | . . X . . X . . . . . . . . . . X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . | $$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . | $$ | . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . O X X . . . . . . . . . . . , . . . | $$ | . O O . . X . O . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X O . . . X . . . . . . . O . . . | $$ | . . O O . O . . . . . . . . X 1 X 7 . | $$ | . O . . . . X . X O . . . . . 2 3 5 . | $$ | O . O . X X . . . O . . . . 6 . 4 . . | $$ | . O X X . O O . . , . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . X . . X . . . . O . . X . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------
[go]$$Wcm59 Prisoner Count: $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O O . O . . . . . . . . O O O . . | $$ | . X O X X . . X . , . . . O X X . . . | $$ | . . X . . X . . . . . . . . . . X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . | $$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . | $$ | . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . O X X . . . . . . . . . . . , . . . | $$ | . O O . . X . O . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X O . . . X . . . . . . . O . . . | $$ | . . O O . O . . . . . . . . X 1 X 7 . | $$ | . O . . . . X . X O . . . . . 2 3 5 . | $$ | O . O . X X . . . O . . . . 6 . 4 . . | $$ | . O X X . O O . . , . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . X . . X . . . . O . . X . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
So, it was either the atari here, or the other side I was playing for. Both leave forcing aji on the other side, so it's a matter of picking which side I didn't want to leave Black some useful aji. The net is in this case worse than both those alternatives, as it leaves forcing aji on both sides for Black.
The reason I picked this side is that the aji in the corner is more interesting than the right edge
Spoiler:
This point in particular:
$$Wcm59 Prisoner Count: $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O O . O . . . . . . . . O O O . . | $$ | . X O X X . . X . , . . . O X X . . . | $$ | . . X . . X . . . . . . . . . . X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . | $$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . | $$ | . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . O X X . . . . . . . . . . . , . . . | $$ | . O O . . X . O . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X O . . . X . . . . . . . O . . . | $$ | . . O O . O . . . . . . . . X 1 X 7 . | $$ | . O . . . . X . X O . . . . . 2 3 5 . | $$ | O . O . X X . . . O . . . . 6 . 4 . . | $$ | . O X X . O O . . , . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . X . . X . . . . O . . X . . . a . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------
[go]$$Bcm66 Prisoner Count: $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O O . O . . . . . . . . O O O . . | $$ | . X O X X . . X . , . . . O X X . . . | $$ | . . X . . X . . . . . . . . . . X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . | $$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . | $$ | . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . O X X . . . . . . . . . . . , . . . | $$ | . O O . . X . O . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X O . . . X . . . . . . 1 O . . . | $$ | . . O O . O . . . . . . . . X O X O . | $$ | . O . . . . X . X O . . . . . X O O . | $$ | O . O . X X . . . O . . . . X . X . . | $$ | . O X X . O O . . , . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . X . . X . . . . O . . X . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
Oh, hm, not closing off the right could get me into some trouble... But then, so could not playing in a few other places. Going to push along a little, get some influence...
Re: 99. topazg vs sevis
Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2011 3:10 pm
by topazg
$$Bcm66 Prisoner Count: $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O O . O . . . . . . . . O O O . . | $$ | . X O X X . . X . , . . . O X X . . . | $$ | . . X . . X . . . . . . . . . . X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . | $$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . | $$ | . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . O X X . . . . . . . . . . . , . . . | $$ | . O O . . X . O . . . . . . . . 2 . . | $$ | . . X O . . . X . . . . . . 1 O . . . | $$ | . . O O . O . . . . . . . . X O X O . | $$ | . O . . . . X . X O . . . . . X O O . | $$ | O . O . X X . . . O . . . . X . X . . | $$ | . O X X . O O . . , . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . X . . X . . . . O . . X . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------
[go]$$B $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O O . O . . . . . . . . O O O . . | $$ | . X O X X . . X . , . . . O X X . . . | $$ | . . X . . X . . . . . . . . . . X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . | $$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . | $$ | . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . O X X . . . . . . . . . . . , . . . | $$ | . O O . . X . O . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X O . . . X . . . . . . . O b . . | $$ | . . O O . O . . . . . . . . 1 a X . . | $$ | . O . . . . X . X O . . . . . . . . . | $$ | O . O . X X . . . O . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . O X X . O O . . , . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . X . . X . . . . O . . X . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
Sevis wrote:Don't want to let white get all of the centre, this should grab some.
As Aphelion already noted, the situation is the exact opposite: W has almost nothing there, so it is W who has to prevent B from making a huge center, not the other way around. But this judgment is not obvious to you right now; it will take more experience.
Re: 99. topazg vs sevis
Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2011 7:43 am
by Sevis
Very sorry for the delay -- school project got in the way, I should be able to be a good deal more active now.
Yes, I see the error in both of those moves. I was thinking of protecting the side, but it didn't feel big enough. Oh well, I guess I simply should be more careful with those things from now on. Current evaluation:
$$Bcm66 Prisoner Count: $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O O . O . . . . . . . . O O O . . | $$ | . X O X X . . X . , . . . O X X . . . | $$ | . . X . . X . . . . . . . . . . X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . | $$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . | $$ | . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . O X X . . . . . . . . . . . , . . . | $$ | . O O . . X . W . . . . . . . . 2 . . | $$ | . . X O . . . X . . . . . . 1 O . . . | $$ | . . O O . O . . . . . . . . X O X O . | $$ | . O . . . . X . X O . . . . . X O O . | $$ | O . O . X X . . . O . . . . X . X a . | $$ | . O X X . O O . . , . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . X . . X . . . . O . . X . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------
[go]$$Bcm66 Prisoner Count: $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O O . O . . . . . . . . O O O . . | $$ | . X O X X . . X . , . . . O X X . . . | $$ | . . X . . X . . . . . . . . . . X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . | $$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . | $$ | . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . O X X . . . . . . . . . . . , . . . | $$ | . O O . . X . W . . . . . . . . 2 . . | $$ | . . X O . . . X . . . . . . 1 O . . . | $$ | . . O O . O . . . . . . . . X O X O . | $$ | . O . . . . X . X O . . . . . X O O . | $$ | O . O . X X . . . O . . . . X . X a . | $$ | . O X X . O O . . , . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . X . . X . . . . O . . X . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
I think that that white stone could be separated. Now that I have some strength on the right, it seems like a good idea to use it to pressure white there.
On the other hand, a also seems to be a very big point. White playing S4 would be very painful.
I think I'm going to go with the safe option.
$$Bcm66 Prisoner Count: $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O O . O . . . . . . . . O O O . . | $$ | . X O X X . . X . , . . . O X X . . . | $$ | . . X . . X . . . . . . . . . . X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . | $$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . | $$ | . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . O X X . . . . . . . . . . . , . . . | $$ | . O O . . X . O . . . . . . . . 2 . . | $$ | . . X O . . . X . . . . . . 1 O . . . | $$ | . . O O . O . . . . . . . . X O X O . | $$ | . O . . . . X . X O . . . . . X O O . | $$ | O . O . X X . . . O . . . . X . X 3 . | $$ | . O X X . O O . . , . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . X . . X . . . . O . . X . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------
[go]$$Wcm69 Prisoner Count: $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O O . O . . . . . . . . O O O . . | $$ | . X O X X . . X . , . . . O X X . . . | $$ | . . X . . X . . . . . . . . . . X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . | $$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . | $$ | . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . O X X . . . . . . . . . . . , . . . | $$ | . O O . . X . O . . . . . . . . O . . | $$ | . . X O . . . X . . . . . . X O . . . | $$ | . . O O . O . . . . . . . . X O X O . | $$ | . O . . . . X . X O . . . 1 . X O O . | $$ | O . O . X X . . . O . . . . X . X X . | $$ | . O X X . O O . . , . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . X . . X . . . . O . . X . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
That's really big, although gote. It should secure Black another corner with a decent amount of points, but the game is getting a bit closer and more interesting overall. Ok, let's tackle the middle now.
Spoiler:
Aiming at something like this:
$$Wcm69 Prisoner Count: $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O O . O . . 5 7 . . . . O O O . . | $$ | . X O X X . . X 6 , . . . O X X . . . | $$ | . . X . . X . . . . . . . . . . X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . | $$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . | $$ | . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . O X X . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . | $$ | . O O . . X . O . . . . . . . . O . . | $$ | . . X O . . 4 X 3 . . . . . X O . . . | $$ | . . O O . O . . . . . . . . X O X O . | $$ | . O . . . . X . X O . . . 1 2 X O O . | $$ | O . O . X X . . . O . . . . X . X X . | $$ | . O X X . O O . . , . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . X . . X . . . . O . . X . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . a . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------
[go]$$Wcm69 Prisoner Count: $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O O . O . . 5 7 . . . . O O O . . | $$ | . X O X X . . X 6 , . . . O X X . . . | $$ | . . X . . X . . . . . . . . . . X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . | $$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . | $$ | . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . O X X . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . | $$ | . O O . . X . O . . . . . . . . O . . | $$ | . . X O . . 4 X 3 . . . . . X O . . . | $$ | . . O O . O . . . . . . . . X O X O . | $$ | . O . . . . X . X O . . . 1 2 X O O . | $$ | O . O . X X . . . O . . . . X . X X . | $$ | . O X X . O O . . , . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . X . . X . . . . O . . X . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . a . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
helps the bottom group, and keeps the aji up in the center. It's easy to treat both stones lightly if needs be. and will be very important.
EDIT: Actually, I may play on the other side. Separating has some good potential to either get "a" in sente, or to break through into the middle completely. Hmmm, maybe "a" is big enough to play now anyway.
Re: 99. topazg vs sevis
Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2011 4:24 pm
by Sevis
$$Wcm69 Prisoner Count: $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O O . O . . . . . . . . O O O . . | $$ | . X O X X . . X . , . . . O X X . . . | $$ | . . X . . X . . . . . . . . . . X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . | $$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . | $$ | . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . O X X . . . . . . . . . . . , . . . | $$ | . O O . . X . O . . . . . . 2 . O . . | $$ | . . X O . . . X . . . . . . X O . . . | $$ | . . O O . O . . . . . . . . X O X O . | $$ | . O . . . . X . X O . . . 1 . X O O . | $$ | O . O . X X . . . O . . . . X . X X . | $$ | . O X X . O O . . , . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . X . . X . . . . O . . X . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------
[go]$$Wcm69 Prisoner Count: $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O O . O . . . . . . . . O O O . . | $$ | . X O X X . . X . , . . . O X X . . . | $$ | . . X . . X . . . . . . . . . . X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . | $$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . | $$ | . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . O X X . . . . . . . . . . . , . . . | $$ | . O O . . X . O . . . . . . 2 . O . . | $$ | . . X O . . . X . . . . . . X O . . . | $$ | . . O O . O . . . . . . . . X O X O . | $$ | . O . . . . X . X O . . . 1 . X O O . | $$ | O . O . X X . . . O . . . . X . X X . | $$ | . O X X . O O . . , . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . X . . X . . . . O . . X . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
It's a peep, but I don't think white cutting through is big enough. In fact, I think I could allow white to take Q6 without suffering much -- it leaves some nasty cutting spots, but I think I have more ko threats (top-left is full of them), and so these two (now three) stones are the biggest issue.
Re: 99. topazg vs sevis
Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2011 4:35 pm
by topazg
$$Wcm69 Prisoner Count: $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O O . O . . . . . . . . O O O . . | $$ | . X O X X . . X . , . . . O X X . . . | $$ | . . X . . X . . . . . . . . . . X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . | $$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . | $$ | . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . O X X . . . . . . . . . . . 3 . . . | $$ | . O O . . X . O . . . . . . 2 . O . . | $$ | . . X O . . . X . . . . . . X O . . . | $$ | . . O O . O . . . . . . . . X O X O . | $$ | . O . . . . X . X O . . . 1 . X O O . | $$ | O . O . X X . . . O . . . . X . X X . | $$ | . O X X . O O . . , . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . X . . X . . . . O . . X . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------
[go]$$Wcm69 Prisoner Count: $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O O . O . . . . . . . . O O O . . | $$ | . X O X X . . X . , . . . O X X . . . | $$ | . . X . . X . . . . . . . . . . X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . | $$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . | $$ | . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . O X X . . . . . . . . . . . 3 . . . | $$ | . O O . . X . O . . . . . . 2 . O . . | $$ | . . X O . . . X . . . . . . X O . . . | $$ | . . O O . O . . . . . . . . X O X O . | $$ | . O . . . . X . X O . . . 1 . X O O . | $$ | O . O . X X . . . O . . . . X . X X . | $$ | . O X X . O O . . , . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . X . . X . . . . O . . X . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
Well, that was interesting. Now I can make miai of cutting and connecting to Q13. This could give me some of the complications I'm after. The ko I don't care about, cutting those 3 stones off is fairly big.
Re: 99. topazg vs sevis
Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2011 5:17 am
by Sevis
$$Wcm69 Prisoner Count: $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O O . O . . . . . . . . O O O . . | $$ | . X O X X . . X . , . . . O X X . . . | $$ | . . X . . X . . . . . . . . . . X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . | $$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . | $$ | . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . O X X . . . . . . . . . . . 3 . . . | $$ | . O O . . X . O . . . . . . 2 . O . . | $$ | . . X O . . . X . . . . . . X O . . . | $$ | . . O O . O . . . . . . . . X O X O . | $$ | . O . . . . X . X O . . . 1 4 X O O . | $$ | O . O . X X . . . O . . . . X . X X . | $$ | . O X X . O O . . , . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . X . . X . . . . O . . X . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------
exchange resulted in a bad shape for B:
directly...
aji:
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helps the bottom group, and 
keeps the aji up in the center. It's easy to treat both stones lightly if needs be. 
and 
will be very important.