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Re: My hand-crafted KataGo (+ AlphaGo Teach) self-play games

Posted: Wed Jan 17, 2024 1:02 am
by Maharani
In game 113 (7 komi, NZ rules), black amusingly keeps ignoring white's bit-by-bit reduction of his large left-side area in order to profit in the bottom left corner and center instead. The game ends as a draw. https://online-go.com/review/1024533
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Re: My hand-crafted KataGo (+ AlphaGo Teach) self-play games

Posted: Thu Jan 18, 2024 7:24 pm
by Maharani
In game 114 (7 komi, NZ rules), by move 88, black has built a giant top left moyo and white has built an equally giant center bottom moyo; then they invade and reduce each other in equal amounts. Move 78 is rather spectacular. The game is a draw. https://online-go.com/review/1027348
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[go]$$Wc Sixteen previous games continued at a instead of C3.
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Re: My hand-crafted KataGo (+ AlphaGo Teach) self-play games

Posted: Thu Jan 18, 2024 10:21 pm
by Maharani
Game 115 (NZ rules, 7 komi) escalates into an all-consuming center fight after black deviates from the top left joseki to cut at D14. After move 216, black decides that, since he's at least 1 point behind, he might as well lose by 12 points. https://online-go.com/review/1032799
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[go]$$Wc Games 89, 97 and 124 continue at a instead of C15.
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Re: KataGo self-play games + video reviews

Posted: Thu Jan 18, 2024 11:44 pm
by RobertJasiek
I have studied these AI opening a lot but they need not result in a center fight. They can also start an early endgame.

Re: My hand-crafted KataGo (+ AlphaGo Teach) self-play games

Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2024 12:55 am
by Maharani
In game 116 (7 komi, NZ rules), black gets four corners, lives in the middle, and loses by about 4 points: https://online-go.com/demo/view/1036390

Tang Jie, CHN 5d has reviewed this game! I’ve included all of his (commented) variations, plus more KataGo variations, in the OGS review.
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[go]$$Bc Black to play.
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Re: My hand-crafted KataGo (+ AlphaGo Teach) self-play games

Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2024 11:12 pm
by Maharani
In game 117 (7 komi, NZ rules), move 45 got a 0.05 % rating from the policy network. After a lot of fighting, by move 185, KataGo realizes that black is at least 2 points ahead. White loses her will to live, and the game by at least 72 points. https://online-go.com/review/1038752

GoDave89, EGF 4d has done a 60-minute video review of this game! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XTHN84KO63c

I’ve included all of his (commented) variations, plus more KataGo variations, in the OGS review as well.
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[go]$$Bc Games 117 and 118 continue at Q5. Game 126 will continue at a instead.
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Re: My hand-crafted KataGo (+ AlphaGo Teach) self-play games

Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2024 11:53 pm
by Maharani
Game 118 (7 komi, NZ rules), starting around move 43, turns into a whole-board fight. A ko starting at move 207 lasts for 50 moves. Black and white end up with four living groups each, and the game is a draw. https://online-go.com/review/1039984
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[go]$$Bc Game 117 continued at a instead of R12.
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Re: My hand-crafted KataGo (+ AlphaGo Teach) self-play games

Posted: Sat Jan 20, 2024 3:01 pm
by Maharani
In game 119 (7 komi, NZ rules), after a complicated fight on the bottom settles by move 98, another huge fight starts on the left at move 99. Once all the dust settles, the game ends as a draw. https://online-go.com/review/1045306

Tang Jie, CHN 5d has done a 45-minute video review of this game! https://drive.google.com/file/d/1GDlkmT ... vAstB/view

I’ve included all of his (commented) variations, plus more KataGo variations, in the OGS review.
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[go]$$Wc Games 110 and 119 continue at Q15. Games 111 and 120 continue at a instead, and game 128 at b.
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Re: My hand-crafted KataGo (+ AlphaGo Teach) self-play games

Posted: Tue Jan 23, 2024 10:14 am
by Maharani
In game 120 (7 komi, NZ rules), by move 92, black and white have cooperated to build a fence in the middle of the board, and they stay true to this arrangement. Black ends up sacrificing 28 stones on the left side of the board while white sacrifices 12 stones on the right side. In the end, four territories remain on the board; one is worth 15 points, one is worth 49 points, one is worth 64 points, and one is worth 91 points. A very satisfying draw. https://online-go.com/review/1049006
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[go]$$Bc Game 111 continued at a instead of M17.
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Re: My hand-crafted KataGo (+ AlphaGo Teach) self-play games

Posted: Fri Jan 26, 2024 12:53 pm
by Maharani
In game 121 (7 komi, NZ rules), white tenukiing the bottom right joseki to grab a quick corner at move 8 leads to an early complicated fight. The game ends as a draw. https://online-go.com/review/1054267

Tang Jie, CHN 5d has reviewed this game! I’ve included all of his (commented) variations, plus more KataGo variations, in the OGS review.
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[go]$$Wc The opening.
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Re: My hand-crafted KataGo (+ AlphaGo Teach) self-play games

Posted: Fri Jan 26, 2024 1:52 pm
by Maharani
Game 122 (7 komi, NZ rules) is a mindbendingly insane game of which Eunkyo Do (KOR 1p) said: "It looks like they are playing another game than go!" It ends as a draw. https://online-go.com/review/1059280

Tang Jie, CHN 5d has done a 55-minute video review of this game! https://drive.google.com/file/d/1G8DrNB ... sp=sharing

I’ve included all of his (commented) variations, plus more KataGo variations, in the OGS review.
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[go]$$Bc A double-approach joseki has escalated.
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Re: My hand-crafted KataGo (+ AlphaGo Teach) self-play games

Posted: Fri Jan 26, 2024 10:59 pm
by Maharani
Game 123 (7 komi, NZ rules) is a game of strange shapes. Tough for my 10k brain to summarize what's going on. After move 232, black realizes he's firmly behind by 2 points, and resigns six moves later. https://online-go.com/review/1061025
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[go]$$Wc Beats me.
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Re: My hand-crafted KataGo (+ AlphaGo Teach) self-play games

Posted: Sat Jan 27, 2024 12:28 pm
by Maharani
Game 124 (NZ rules, 7 komi) is a game with four 3-3 invasions. Black connects up two of his 3-3 invasions to make a 38-point territory on the left side, whereas white uses her top right 3-3 invasion to capture black's invaded corner. The game ends as a draw. https://online-go.com/review/1063933
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[go]$$Wc Game 89 continued at a instead of Q5.
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Re: My hand-crafted KataGo (+ AlphaGo Teach) self-play games

Posted: Sat Jan 27, 2024 1:14 pm
by Maharani
What I enjoy most about game 125 (7 komi, NZ rules) is black and white breezily floating around the bottom side. After move 184, black realizes he's firmly behind by at least 2 points, so he starts wasting ko threats. https://online-go.com/review/1069204
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[go]$$Wc "We all float down here." — Pennywise the clown
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Re: My hand-crafted KataGo (+ AlphaGo Teach) self-play games

Posted: Tue Sep 24, 2024 12:57 pm
by Maharani
Game 126 (7 komi, NZ rules) sees black having to make sabaki in white's top side moyo. https://online-go.com/review/1075415

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