49. Magicwand(3d) vs Violence(?d)

Violence · Post by **Violence** » Tue Jun 22, 2010 10:18 am

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Magicwand · Post by **Magicwand** » Tue Jun 22, 2010 10:22 am

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Violence · Post by **Violence** » Tue Jun 22, 2010 11:07 am

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White's move is bad.

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For strong kyu players and maybe low dan players, it's good to learn this sequence.

-Guo Juan

shapenaji · Post by **shapenaji** » Tue Jun 22, 2010 11:17 am

to Magicwand:

Magicwand · Post by **Magicwand** » Tue Jun 22, 2010 11:58 am

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Violence · Post by **Violence** » Tue Jun 22, 2010 12:02 pm

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daniel_the_smith · Post by **daniel_the_smith** » Tue Jun 22, 2010 12:05 pm

Magicwand · Post by **Magicwand** » Tue Jun 22, 2010 12:06 pm

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Violence · Post by **Violence** » Tue Jun 22, 2010 12:12 pm

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Magicwand · Post by **Magicwand** » Tue Jun 22, 2010 12:17 pm

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Violence · Post by **Violence** » Tue Jun 22, 2010 12:19 pm

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Magicwand · Post by **Magicwand** » Tue Jun 22, 2010 12:23 pm

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shapenaji · Post by **shapenaji** » Tue Jun 22, 2010 12:28 pm

Magicwand wrote:
i am pissed at myself for letting him control my emotion.
i wanted to show him that i can beat him with my playing territory game and same time let my group live easily.
my plan backfired. i am pissed at the idea of weaker player beating me on even game.
i wanted to make something happen in his territory and it is not going too well.
last 10 moves do not have any "EDUCATIONAL VALUE" other than my struggle to get back in the game.
that is why you dont see me talk about it.

Violence · Post by **Violence** » Tue Jun 22, 2010 12:31 pm

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SoDesuNe · Post by **SoDesuNe** » Tue Jun 22, 2010 12:42 pm

shapenaji wrote:
Magicwand wrote:
i am pissed at myself for letting him control my emotion.
i wanted to show him that i can beat him with my playing territory game and same time let my group live easily.
my plan backfired. i am pissed at the idea of weaker player beating me on even game.
i wanted to make something happen in his territory and it is not going too well.
last 10 moves do not have any "EDUCATIONAL VALUE" other than my struggle to get back in the game.
that is why you dont see me talk about it.

As an outside observer, you seem very confident that you should win. You should know, Violence isn't that much weaker than you (on KGS he's usually 2-3d, and the middle-game is when he is strongest. He's pulled off many wins against people who are rated stronger. Underestimating your opponent is one of the most dangerous things you can do. Assuming that you "deserve" a win is the quickest way to put yourself on tilt.

I think the best way to calm your nerves is to recognize that he's decent, and remove your ego from the equation, it will become much easier to play your kind of game again.

EDIT: that being said, I think you SHOULD talk about how you pick moves to try to get back into the game, weaker players would benefit from that

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