Chew, in your trigger from above, you chose k17 for . The situation now is slightly different, but I'm curious as to why you chose to draw back a bit on your extension at the top.
Re: 66. Shaddy(1d) vs. Chew Terr(5k)
Posted: Tue Aug 31, 2010 12:13 pm
by Chew Terr
Kirby:
A couple of things... first, confidence. I was feeling more confident at the time, I believe.
Second, my opponent's group is much stronger now, so I was playing this move expecting him to want to invade the jump eventually.
Third, I was debating playing this stone high, which may have been a better option, as it would have made it harder for MHO to cut me off, as he did here.
As far as my next move, I'm going to have to look into this some more.
Re: 66. Shaddy(1d) vs. Chew Terr(5k)
Posted: Tue Aug 31, 2010 12:39 pm
by Chew Terr
$$Bc Captures: B+1 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X O X . O . . . X . . . X . . . | $$ | . . . X O X . . . , O . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . X . X O X . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X O O O X . . . B . . . . . . . . | $$ | . X O O . X . . . . . . . . X . . . . | $$ | . O . . . . . . . . . . . O O X . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O X X . | $$ | . X . O . . . X . O . . O O O O O X . | $$ | O . . . . . O . . . . X X X O . . . . | $$ | . O X . . . . . . O X . . X O X X . . | $$ | O . O . . . . O . . X X X O . O X . . | $$ | X O O . . . . . X X X O X O O O O X . | $$ | . X O O . O . . X O O O O X O O X X . | $$ | X . X O . X O O X , O X O X O X X X O | $$ | O O X O . . O X X X X X X X O X O O . | $$ | O X X O X O . O X . O . X O O O O X . | $$ | . X O . . . . . . . . X . X . . . X . | $$ ---------------------------------------
[go]$$Bc Captures: B+1 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X O X . O . . . X . . . X . . . | $$ | . . . X O X . . . , O . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . X . X O X . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X O O O X . . . B . . . . . . . . | $$ | . X O O . X . . . . . . . . X . . . . | $$ | . O . . . . . . . . . . . O O X . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O X X . | $$ | . X . O . . . X . O . . O O O O O X . | $$ | O . . . . . O . . . . X X X O . . . . | $$ | . O X . . . . . . O X . . X O X X . . | $$ | O . O . . . . O . . X X X O . O X . . | $$ | X O O . . . . . X X X O X O O O O X . | $$ | . X O O . O . . X O O O O X O O X X . | $$ | X . X O . X O O X , O X O X O X X X O | $$ | O O X O . . O X X X X X X X O X O O . | $$ | O X X O X O . O X . O . X O O O O X . | $$ | . X O . . . . . . . . X . X . . . X . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
Okay, I definitely wish I had played my previous move one higher, it would have made it harder for my opponent to cut me off.
$$Bc Captures: B+1 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X O X . O . . . X . . . X . . . | $$ | . . . X O X . . B a W . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . X . X O X . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X O O O X . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . X O O . X . . . . . . . . X . . . . | $$ | . O . . . . . . . . . . . O O X . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O X X . | $$ | . X . O . . . X . O . . O O O O O X . | $$ | O . . . . . O . . . . X X X O . . . . | $$ | . O X . . . . . . O X . . X O X X . . | $$ | O . O . . . . O . . X X X O . O X . . | $$ | X O O . . . . . X X X O X O O O O X . | $$ | . X O O . O . . X O O O O X O O X X . | $$ | X . X O . X O O X , O X O X O X X X O | $$ | O O X O . . O X X X X X X X O X O O . | $$ | O X X O X O . O X . O . X O O O O X . | $$ | . X O . . . . . . . . X . X . . . X . | $$ ---------------------------------------
[go]$$Bc Captures: B+1 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X O X . O . . . X . . . X . . . | $$ | . . . X O X . . B a W . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . X . X O X . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X O O O X . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . X O O . X . . . . . . . . X . . . . | $$ | . O . . . . . . . . . . . O O X . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O X X . | $$ | . X . O . . . X . O . . O O O O O X . | $$ | O . . . . . O . . . . X X X O . . . . | $$ | . O X . . . . . . O X . . X O X X . . | $$ | O . O . . . . O . . X X X O . O X . . | $$ | X O O . . . . . X X X O X O O O O X . | $$ | . X O O . O . . X O O O O X O O X X . | $$ | X . X O . X O O X , O X O X O X X X O | $$ | O O X O . . O X X X X X X X O X O O . | $$ | O X X O X O . O X . O . X O O O O X . | $$ | . X O . . . . . . . . X . X . . . X . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
I strongly considered this marked move, to try to connect underneath (I thought it was a good forcing move at first), but the more I looked at it, the more I realized that if white responded at 'a', I was just making him stronger. I hope to threaten to connect to my southern stones to help me connect, but I feel like any connection attempt should start here (as I'm cut off if white gets to play here).
As an aside, I looked back in this game 10-20 moves, and decided I'm really not happy with the results of my responses to white's approach. I'll try to look back and read what alternatives I had, but I'd appreciate any thoughts on these last dozen moves.
Re: 66. Shaddy(1d) vs. Chew Terr(5k)
Posted: Tue Aug 31, 2010 1:06 pm
by Shaddy
$$Bc Captures: B+1 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X O X . O . . . X . . . X . . . | $$ | . . . X O X . . . , O . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . X . X O X . . . . W . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X O O O X . . . B . . . . . . . . | $$ | . X O O . X . . . . . . . . X . . . . | $$ | . O . . . . . . . . . . . O O X . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O X X . | $$ | . X . O . . . X . O . . O O O O O X . | $$ | O . . . . . O . . . . X X X O . . . . | $$ | . O X . . . . . . O X . . X O X X . . | $$ | O . O . . . . O . . X X X O . O X . . | $$ | X O O . . . . . X X X O X O O O O X . | $$ | . X O O . O . . X O O O O X O O X X . | $$ | X . X O . X O O X , O X O X O X X X O | $$ | O O X O . . O X X X X X X X O X O O . | $$ | O X X O X O . O X . O . X O O O O X . | $$ | . X O . . . . . . . . X . X . . . X . | $$ ---------------------------------------
[go]$$Bc Captures: B+1 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X O X . O . . . X . . . X . . . | $$ | . . . X O X . . . , O . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . X . X O X . . . . W . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X O O O X . . . B . . . . . . . . | $$ | . X O O . X . . . . . . . . X . . . . | $$ | . O . . . . . . . . . . . O O X . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O X X . | $$ | . X . O . . . X . O . . O O O O O X . | $$ | O . . . . . O . . . . X X X O . . . . | $$ | . O X . . . . . . O X . . X O X X . . | $$ | O . O . . . . O . . X X X O . O X . . | $$ | X O O . . . . . X X X O X O O O O X . | $$ | . X O O . O . . X O O O O X O O X X . | $$ | X . X O . X O O X , O X O X O X X X O | $$ | O O X O . . O X X X X X X X O X O O . | $$ | O X X O X O . O X . O . X O O O O X . | $$ | . X O . . . . . . . . X . X . . . X . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
Bad shape, but I think it works here
Re: 66. Shaddy(1d) vs. Chew Terr(5k)
Posted: Tue Aug 31, 2010 1:30 pm
by Chew Terr
$$Bc Captures: B+1 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X O X . O . . . X . . . X . . . | $$ | . . . X O X . . . , O . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . X . X O X . . . . O . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X O O O X . . . X . . . . . . . . | $$ | . X O O . X . . . . . . . . X . . . . | $$ | . O . . . . . . . . . . . O O X . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . B . . . X O X X . | $$ | . X . O . . . X . O . . O O O O O X . | $$ | O . . . . . O . . . . X X X O . . . . | $$ | . O X . . . . . . O X . . X O X X . . | $$ | O . O . . . . O . . X X X O . O X . . | $$ | X O O . . . . . X X X O X O O O O X . | $$ | . X O O . O . . X O O O O X O O X X . | $$ | X . X O . X O O X , O X O X O X X X O | $$ | O O X O . . O X X X X X X X O X O O . | $$ | O X X O X O . O X . O . X O O O O X . | $$ | . X O . . . . . . . . X . X . . . X . | $$ ---------------------------------------
[go]$$Bc Captures: B+1 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X O X . O . . . X . . . X . . . | $$ | . . . X O X . . . , O . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . X . X O X . . . . O . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X O O O X . . . X . . . . . . . . | $$ | . X O O . X . . . . . . . . X . . . . | $$ | . O . . . . . . . . . . . O O X . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . B . . . X O X X . | $$ | . X . O . . . X . O . . O O O O O X . | $$ | O . . . . . O . . . . X X X O . . . . | $$ | . O X . . . . . . O X . . X O X X . . | $$ | O . O . . . . O . . X X X O . O X . . | $$ | X O O . . . . . X X X O X O O O O X . | $$ | . X O O . O . . X O O O O X O O X X . | $$ | X . X O . X O O X , O X O X O X X X O | $$ | O O X O . . O X X X X X X X O X O O . | $$ | O X X O X O . O X . O . X O O O O X . | $$ | . X O . . . . . . . . X . X . . . X . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
Okay, if I'm going to MacGuyver here, I'm going to need all of the helping stones I can get. This one, of course, threatens to connect the middle stones to my safe group below.
Re: 66. Shaddy(1d) vs. Chew Terr(5k)
Posted: Tue Aug 31, 2010 4:33 pm
by Shaddy
$$Bc Captures: B+1 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X O X . O . . . X . . . X . . . | $$ | . . . X O X . . . , O . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . X . X O X . . . . O . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X O O O X . . . X . . . . . . . . | $$ | . X O O . X . . . . . . . . X . . . . | $$ | . O . . . . . . . . . . . O O X . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . X . . . X O X X . | $$ | . X . O . . . X . O W . O O O O O X . | $$ | O . . . . . O . . . . X X X O . . . . | $$ | . O X . . . . . . O X . . X O X X . . | $$ | O . O . . . . O . . X X X O . O X . . | $$ | X O O . . . . . X X X O X O O O O X . | $$ | . X O O . O . . X O O O O X O O X X . | $$ | X . X O . X O O X , O X O X O X X X O | $$ | O O X O . . O X X X X X X X O X O O . | $$ | O X X O X O . O X . O . X O O O O X . | $$ | . X O . . . . . . . . X . X . . . X . | $$ ---------------------------------------
[go]$$Bc Captures: B+1 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X O X . O . . . X . . . X . . . | $$ | . . . X O X . . . , O . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . X . X O X . . . . O . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X O O O X . . . X . . . . . . . . | $$ | . X O O . X . . . . . . . . X . . . . | $$ | . O . . . . . . . . . . . O O X . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . X . . . X O X X . | $$ | . X . O . . . X . O W . O O O O O X . | $$ | O . . . . . O . . . . X X X O . . . . | $$ | . O X . . . . . . O X . . X O X X . . | $$ | O . O . . . . O . . X X X O . O X . . | $$ | X O O . . . . . X X X O X O O O O X . | $$ | . X O O . O . . X O O O O X O O X X . | $$ | X . X O . X O O X , O X O X O X X X O | $$ | O O X O . . O X X X X X X X O X O O . | $$ | O X X O X O . O X . O . X O O O O X . | $$ | . X O . . . . . . . . X . X . . . X . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
Re: 66. Shaddy(1d) vs. Chew Terr(5k)
Posted: Wed Sep 01, 2010 7:32 am
by Chew Terr
$$Bc Captures: B+1 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X O X . O . . . X . . . X . . . | $$ | . . . X O X . . . , O . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . X . X O X . . . . O . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X O O O X . . . X . . . . . . . . | $$ | . X O O . X . . . . . . . . X . . . . | $$ | . O . . . . . . . . . . . O O X . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . X B . . X O X X . | $$ | . X . O . . . X . O O . O O O O O X . | $$ | O . . . . . O . . . . X X X O . . . . | $$ | . O X . . . . . . O X . . X O X X . . | $$ | O . O . . . . O . . X X X O . O X . . | $$ | X O O . . . . . X X X O X O O O O X . | $$ | . X O O . O . . X O O O O X O O X X . | $$ | X . X O . X O O X , O X O X O X X X O | $$ | O O X O . . O X X X X X X X O X O O . | $$ | O X X O X O . O X . O . X O O O O X . | $$ | . X O . . . . . . . . X . X . . . X . | $$ ---------------------------------------
[go]$$Bc Captures: B+1 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X O X . O . . . X . . . X . . . | $$ | . . . X O X . . . , O . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . X . X O X . . . . O . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X O O O X . . . X . . . . . . . . | $$ | . X O O . X . . . . . . . . X . . . . | $$ | . O . . . . . . . . . . . O O X . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . X B . . X O X X . | $$ | . X . O . . . X . O O . O O O O O X . | $$ | O . . . . . O . . . . X X X O . . . . | $$ | . O X . . . . . . O X . . X O X X . . | $$ | O . O . . . . O . . X X X O . O X . . | $$ | X O O . . . . . X X X O X O O O O X . | $$ | . X O O . O . . X O O O O X O O X X . | $$ | X . X O . X O O X , O X O X O X X X O | $$ | O O X O . . O X X X X X X X O X O O . | $$ | O X X O X O . O X . O . X O O O O X . | $$ | . X O . . . . . . . . X . X . . . X . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
I debated this or one space lower. I choose this because it is better connected and stronger, even though I would get a followup atari from the other option.
Re: 66. Shaddy(1d) vs. Chew Terr(5k)
Posted: Wed Sep 01, 2010 7:43 am
by Kirby
Black's last move may aid in living, but it takes away the possibility of attacking the marked stones in the future, since white will probably connect:
$$Bc Captures: B+1 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X O X . O . . . X . . . X . . . | $$ | . . . X O X . . . , O . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . X . X O X . . . . O . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X O O O X . . . X . . . . . . . . | $$ | . X O O . X . . . . . . . . X . . . . | $$ | . O . . . . . . . . . . . O O X . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . X X . . X O X X . | $$ | . X . O . . . X . W W . O O O O O X . | $$ | O . . . . . O . . . . X X X O . . . . | $$ | . O X . . . . . . W X . . X O X X . . | $$ | O . O . . . . O . . X X X O . O X . . | $$ | X O O . . . . . X X X O X O O O O X . | $$ | . X O O . O . . X O O O O X O O X X . | $$ | X . X O . X O O X , O X O X O X X X O | $$ | O O X O . . O X X X X X X X O X O O . | $$ | O X X O X O . O X . O . X O O O O X . | $$ | . X O . . . . . . . . X . X . . . X . | $$ ---------------------------------------
[go]$$Bc Captures: B+1 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X O X . O . . . X . . . X . . . | $$ | . . . X O X . . . , O . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . X . X O X . . . . O . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X O O O X . . . X . . . . . . . . | $$ | . X O O . X . . . . . . . . X . . . . | $$ | . O . . . . . . . . . . . O O X . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . X X . . X O X X . | $$ | . X . O . . . X . W W . O O O O O X . | $$ | O . . . . . O . . . . X X X O . . . . | $$ | . O X . . . . . . W X . . X O X X . . | $$ | O . O . . . . O . . X X X O . O X . . | $$ | X O O . . . . . X X X O X O O O O X . | $$ | . X O O . O . . X O O O O X O O X X . | $$ | X . X O . X O O X , O X O X O X X X O | $$ | O O X O . . O X X X X X X X O X O O . | $$ | O X X O X O . O X . O . X O O O O X . | $$ | . X O . . . . . . . . X . X . . . X . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
There is "aji" here. For example:
$$Bc Captures: B+1 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X O X . O . . . X . . . X . . . | $$ | . . . X O X . . . , O . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . X . X O X . . . . O . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X O O O X . . . X . . . . . . . . | $$ | . X O O . X . . . . . . . . X . . . . | $$ | . O . . . . . . . . . 3 . O O X . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . X 2 4 . X O X X . | $$ | . X . O . . . X . O O 1 O O O O O X . | $$ | O . . . . . O . 5 6 . X X X O . . . . | $$ | . O X . . . . . 7 O X . . X O X X . . | $$ | O . O . . . . O . . X X X O . O X . . | $$ | X O O . . . . . X X X O X O O O O X . | $$ | . X O O . O . . X O O O O X O O X X . | $$ | X . X O . X O O X , O X O X O X X X O | $$ | O O X O . . O X X X X X X X O X O O . | $$ | O X X O X O . O X . O . X O O O O X . | $$ | . X O . . . . . . . . X . X . . . X . | $$ ---------------------------------------
[go]$$Bc Captures: B+1 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X O X . O . . . X . . . X . . . | $$ | . . . X O X . . . , O . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . X . X O X . . . . O . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X O O O X . . . X . . . . . . . . | $$ | . X O O . X . . . . . . . . X . . . . | $$ | . O . . . . . . . . . 3 . O O X . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . X 2 4 . X O X X . | $$ | . X . O . . . X . O O 1 O O O O O X . | $$ | O . . . . . O . 5 6 . X X X O . . . . | $$ | . O X . . . . . 7 O X . . X O X X . . | $$ | O . O . . . . O . . X X X O . O X . . | $$ | X O O . . . . . X X X O X O O O O X . | $$ | . X O O . O . . X O O O O X O O X X . | $$ | X . X O . X O O X , O X O X O X X X O | $$ | O O X O . . O X X X X X X X O X O O . | $$ | O X X O X O . O X . O . X O O O O X . | $$ | . X O . . . . . . . . X . X . . . X . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
It probably won't work right now that well since black has some aji, too, but still, there is future aji if white doesn't connect. So it might be worthwhile to analyze the situation and see if a definite plan can be formed.
Re: 66. Shaddy(1d) vs. Chew Terr(5k)
Posted: Wed Sep 01, 2010 2:10 pm
by Shaddy
$$Bc Captures: B+1 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X O X . O . . . X . . . X . . . | $$ | . . . X O X . . . , O . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . X . X O X . . . . O . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X O O O X . . . X . . . . . . . . | $$ | . X O O . X . . . . . . . . X . . . . | $$ | . O . . . . . . . . . . . O O X . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . X X . . X O X X . | $$ | . X . O . . . X . O O W O O O O O X . | $$ | O . . . . . O . . . . X X X O . . . . | $$ | . O X . . . . . . O X . . X O X X . . | $$ | O . O . . . . O . . X X X O . O X . . | $$ | X O O . . . . . X X X O X O O O O X . | $$ | . X O O . O . . X O O O O X O O X X . | $$ | X . X O . X O O X , O X O X O X X X O | $$ | O O X O . . O X X X X X X X O X O O . | $$ | O X X O X O . O X . O . X O O O O X . | $$ | . X O . . . . . . . . X . X . . . X . | $$ ---------------------------------------
[go]$$Bc Captures: B+1 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X O X . O . . . X . . . X . . . | $$ | . . . X O X . . . , O . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . X . X O X . . . . O . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X O O O X . . . X . . . . . . . . | $$ | . X O O . X . . . . . . . . X . . . . | $$ | . O . . . . . . . . . . . O O X . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . X X . . X O X X . | $$ | . X . O . . . X . O O W O O O O O X . | $$ | O . . . . . O . . . . X X X O . . . . | $$ | . O X . . . . . . O X . . X O X X . . | $$ | O . O . . . . O . . X X X O . O X . . | $$ | X O O . . . . . X X X O X O O O O X . | $$ | . X O O . O . . X O O O O X O O X X . | $$ | X . X O . X O O X , O X O X O X X X O | $$ | O O X O . . O X X X X X X X O X O O . | $$ | O X X O X O . O X . O . X O O O O X . | $$ | . X O . . . . . . . . X . X . . . X . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
I was dreading a black play here. This black move is horrible aji keshi, I don't think black can win now
$$Bc Captures: B+1 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X O X . O . . . X . . . X . . . | $$ | . . . X O X . . . , O . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . X . X O X . . . . O . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X O O O X . . . X . . . . . . . . | $$ | . X O O . X . . . . . . . . X . . . . | $$ | . O . . . . . . . . . 3 . O O X . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . X 2 4 . X O X X . | $$ | . X . O . . . X 6 O O 1 O O O O O X . | $$ | O . . . . . O 8 7 5 . X X X O . . . . | $$ | . O X . . . . . . O X . . X O X X . . | $$ | O . O . . . . O . . X X X O . O X . . | $$ | X O O . . . . . X X X O X O O O O X . | $$ | . X O O . O . . X O O O O X O O X X . | $$ | X . X O . X O O X , O X O X O X X X O | $$ | O O X O . . O X X X X X X X O X O O . | $$ | O X X O X O . O X . O . X O O O O X . | $$ | . X O . . . . . . . . X . X . . . X . | $$ ---------------------------------------
[go]$$Bc Captures: B+1 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X O X . O . . . X . . . X . . . | $$ | . . . X O X . . . , O . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . X . X O X . . . . O . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X O O O X . . . X . . . . . . . . | $$ | . X O O . X . . . . . . . . X . . . . | $$ | . O . . . . . . . . . 3 . O O X . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . X 2 4 . X O X X . | $$ | . X . O . . . X 6 O O 1 O O O O O X . | $$ | O . . . . . O 8 7 5 . X X X O . . . . | $$ | . O X . . . . . . O X . . X O X X . . | $$ | O . O . . . . O . . X X X O . O X . . | $$ | X O O . . . . . X X X O X O O O O X . | $$ | . X O O . O . . X O O O O X O O X X . | $$ | X . X O . X O O X , O X O X O X X X O | $$ | O O X O . . O X X X X X X X O X O O . | $$ | O X X O X O . O X . O . X O O O O X . | $$ | . X O . . . . . . . . X . X . . . X . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
Afraid of this. So much aji!
Re: 66. Shaddy(1d) vs. Chew Terr(5k)
Posted: Wed Sep 01, 2010 2:22 pm
by Chew Terr
$$Bc Captures: B+1 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X O X . O . . . X . . . X . . . | $$ | . . . X O X . . . , O . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . X . X O X . . . . O . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X O O O X . . . X . . . . . . . . | $$ | . X O O . X . . . . . . . B X . . . . | $$ | . O . . . . . . . . . . . O O X . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . X X . . X O X X . | $$ | . X . O . . . X . O O O O O O O O X . | $$ | O . . . . . O . . . . X X X O . . . . | $$ | . O X . . . . . . O X . . X O X X . . | $$ | O . O . . . . O . . X X X O . O X . . | $$ | X O O . . . . . X X X O X O O O O X . | $$ | . X O O . O . . X O O O O X O O X X . | $$ | X . X O . X O O X , O X O X O X X X O | $$ | O O X O . . O X X X X X X X O X O O . | $$ | O X X O X O . O X . O . X O O O O X . | $$ | . X O . . . . . . . . X . X . . . X . | $$ ---------------------------------------
[go]$$Bc Captures: B+1 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X O X . O . . . X . . . X . . . | $$ | . . . X O X . . . , O . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . X . X O X . . . . O . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X O O O X . . . X . . . . . . . . | $$ | . X O O . X . . . . . . . B X . . . . | $$ | . O . . . . . . . . . . . O O X . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . X X . . X O X X . | $$ | . X . O . . . X . O O O O O O O O X . | $$ | O . . . . . O . . . . X X X O . . . . | $$ | . O X . . . . . . O X . . X O X X . . | $$ | O . O . . . . O . . X X X O . O X . . | $$ | X O O . . . . . X X X O X O O O O X . | $$ | . X O O . O . . X O O O O X O O X X . | $$ | X . X O . X O O X , O X O X O X X X O | $$ | O O X O . . O X X X X X X X O X O O . | $$ | O X X O X O . O X . O . X O O O O X . | $$ | . X O . . . . . . . . X . X . . . X . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
$$Bc Captures: B+1 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X O X . O . . . X . . . X . . . | $$ | . . . X O X . . . , O . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . X . X O X . . . . O . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X O O O X . . . X 7 5 . . . . . . | $$ | . X O O . X . . . . . 6 2 1 X . . . . | $$ | . O . . . . . . . . . . 3 O O X . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . X X . 4 X O X X . | $$ | . X . O . . . X . O O W O O O O O X . | $$ | O . . . . . O . . . . X X X O . . . . | $$ | . O X . . . . . . O X . . X O X X . . | $$ | O . O . . . . O . . X X X O . O X . . | $$ | X O O . . . . . X X X O X O O O O X . | $$ | . X O O . O . . X O O O O X O O X X . | $$ | X . X O . X O O X , O X O X O X X X O | $$ | O O X O . . O X X X X X X X O X O O . | $$ | O X X O X O . O X . O . X O O O O X . | $$ | . X O . . . . . . . . X . X . . . X . | $$ ---------------------------------------
[go]$$Bc Captures: B+1 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X O X . O . . . X . . . X . . . | $$ | . . . X O X . . . , O . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . X . X O X . . . . O . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X O O O X . . . X 7 5 . . . . . . | $$ | . X O O . X . . . . . 6 2 1 X . . . . | $$ | . O . . . . . . . . . . 3 O O X . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . X X . 4 X O X X . | $$ | . X . O . . . X . O O W O O O O O X . | $$ | O . . . . . O . . . . X X X O . . . . | $$ | . O X . . . . . . O X . . X O X X . . | $$ | O . O . . . . O . . X X X O . O X . . | $$ | X O O . . . . . X X X O X O O O O X . | $$ | . X O O . O . . X O O O O X O O X X . | $$ | X . X O . X O O X , O X O X O X X X O | $$ | O O X O . . O X X X X X X X O X O O . | $$ | O X X O X O . O X . O . X O O O O X . | $$ | . X O . . . . . . . . X . X . . . X . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
Now that I have strength above and below in the middle, I think I can push through here. I think I can be forced to lose some things, but I think I can connect what I need. Perhaps I should have pushed and cut instead of peeping, but this looked like a more solid way to get the result I wanted: connecting through. Not going to give up yet.
Re: 66. Shaddy(1d) vs. Chew Terr(5k)
Posted: Wed Sep 01, 2010 2:28 pm
by Shaddy
$$Bc Captures: B+1 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X O X . O . . . X . . . X . . . | $$ | . . . X O X . . . , O . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . X . X O X . . . . O . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X O O O X . . . X . . . . . . . . | $$ | . X O O . X . . . . . . . X X W . . . | $$ | . O . . . . . . . . . . . O O X . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . X X . . X O X X . | $$ | . X . O . . . X . O O O O O O O O X . | $$ | O . . . . . O . . . . X X X O . . . . | $$ | . O X . . . . . . O X . . X O X X . . | $$ | O . O . . . . O . . X X X O . O X . . | $$ | X O O . . . . . X X X O X O O O O X . | $$ | . X O O . O . . X O O O O X O O X X . | $$ | X . X O . X O O X , O X O X O X X X O | $$ | O O X O . . O X X X X X X X O X O O . | $$ | O X X O X O . O X . O . X O O O O X . | $$ | . X O . . . . . . . . X . X . . . X . | $$ ---------------------------------------
[go]$$Bc Captures: B+1 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X O X . O . . . X . . . X . . . | $$ | . . . X O X . . . , O . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . X . X O X . . . . O . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X O O O X . . . X . . . . . . . . | $$ | . X O O . X . . . . . . . X X W . . . | $$ | . O . . . . . . . . . . . O O X . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . X X . . X O X X . | $$ | . X . O . . . X . O O O O O O O O X . | $$ | O . . . . . O . . . . X X X O . . . . | $$ | . O X . . . . . . O X . . X O X X . . | $$ | O . O . . . . O . . X X X O . O X . . | $$ | X O O . . . . . X X X O X O O O O X . | $$ | . X O O . O . . X O O O O X O O X X . | $$ | X . X O . X O O X , O X O X O X X X O | $$ | O O X O . . O X X X X X X X O X O O . | $$ | O X X O X O . O X . O . X O O O O X . | $$ | . X O . . . . . . . . X . X . . . X . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
Re: 66. Shaddy(1d) vs. Chew Terr(5k)
Posted: Wed Sep 01, 2010 2:29 pm
by Chew Terr
$$Bc Captures: B+1 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X O X . O . . . X . . . X . . . | $$ | . . . X O X . . . , O . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . X . X O X . . . . O . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X O O O X . . . X . . . . . . . . | $$ | . X O O . X . . . . . . . X X O . . . | $$ | . O . . . . . . . . . . . O O X B . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . X X . . X O X X . | $$ | . X . O . . . X . O O O O O O O O X . | $$ | O . . . . . O . . . . X X X O . . . . | $$ | . O X . . . . . . O X . . X O X X . . | $$ | O . O . . . . O . . X X X O . O X . . | $$ | X O O . . . . . X X X O X O O O O X . | $$ | . X O O . O . . X O O O O X O O X X . | $$ | X . X O . X O O X , O X O X O X X X O | $$ | O O X O . . O X X X X X X X O X O O . | $$ | O X X O X O . O X . O . X O O O O X . | $$ | . X O . . . . . . . . X . X . . . X . | $$ ---------------------------------------
[go]$$Bc Captures: B+1 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X O X . O . . . X . . . X . . . | $$ | . . . X O X . . . , O . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . X . X O X . . . . O . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X O O O X . . . X . . . . . . . . | $$ | . X O O . X . . . . . . . X X O . . . | $$ | . O . . . . . . . . . . . O O X B . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . X X . . X O X X . | $$ | . X . O . . . X . O O O O O O O O X . | $$ | O . . . . . O . . . . X X X O . . . . | $$ | . O X . . . . . . O X . . X O X X . . | $$ | O . O . . . . O . . X X X O . O X . . | $$ | X O O . . . . . X X X O X O O O O X . | $$ | . X O O . O . . X O O O O X O O X X . | $$ | X . X O . X O O X , O X O X O X X X O | $$ | O O X O . . O X X X X X X X O X O O . | $$ | O X X O X O . O X . O . X O O O O X . | $$ | . X O . . . . . . . . X . X . . . X . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
Forced. This is scary.
Re: 66. Shaddy(1d) vs. Chew Terr(5k)
Posted: Wed Sep 01, 2010 2:30 pm
by Shaddy
$$Bc Captures: B+1 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X O X . O . . . X . . . X . . . | $$ | . . . X O X . . . , O . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . X . X O X . . . . O . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X O O O X . . . X . . . . . . . . | $$ | . X O O . X . . . . . . . X X O . . . | $$ | . O . . . . . . . . . . W O O X B . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . X X . . X O X X . | $$ | . X . O . . . X . O O O O O O O O X . | $$ | O . . . . . O . . . . X X X O . . . . | $$ | . O X . . . . . . O X . . X O X X . . | $$ | O . O . . . . O . . X X X O . O X . . | $$ | X O O . . . . . X X X O X O O O O X . | $$ | . X O O . O . . X O O O O X O O X X . | $$ | X . X O . X O O X , O X O X O X X X O | $$ | O O X O . . O X X X X X X X O X O O . | $$ | O X X O X O . O X . O . X O O O O X . | $$ | . X O . . . . . . . . X . X . . . X . | $$ ---------------------------------------
[go]$$Bc Captures: B+1 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X O X . O . . . X . . . X . . . | $$ | . . . X O X . . . , O . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . X . X O X . . . . O . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X O O O X . . . X . . . . . . . . | $$ | . X O O . X . . . . . . . X X O . . . | $$ | . O . . . . . . . . . . W O O X B . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . X X . . X O X X . | $$ | . X . O . . . X . O O O O O O O O X . | $$ | O . . . . . O . . . . X X X O . . . . | $$ | . O X . . . . . . O X . . X O X X . . | $$ | O . O . . . . O . . X X X O . O X . . | $$ | X O O . . . . . X X X O X O O O O X . | $$ | . X O O . O . . X O O O O X O O X X . | $$ | X . X O . X O O X , O X O X O X X X O | $$ | O O X O . . O X X X X X X X O X O O . | $$ | O X X O X O . O X . O . X O O O O X . | $$ | . X O . . . . . . . . X . X . . . X . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
Re: 66. Shaddy(1d) vs. Chew Terr(5k)
Posted: Wed Sep 01, 2010 2:36 pm
by Chew Terr
$$Bc Captures: B+1 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X O X . O . . . X . . . X . . . | $$ | . . . X O X . . . , O . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . X . X O X . . . . O . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X O O O X . . . X . . . . . . . . | $$ | . X O O . X . . . . . . B X X O . . . | $$ | . O . . . . . . . . . . O O O X X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . X X . . X O X X . | $$ | . X . O . . . X . O O O O O O O O X . | $$ | O . . . . . O . . . . X X X O . . . . | $$ | . O X . . . . . . O X . . X O X X . . | $$ | O . O . . . . O . . X X X O . O X . . | $$ | X O O . . . . . X X X O X O O O O X . | $$ | . X O O . O . . X O O O O X O O X X . | $$ | X . X O . X O O X , O X O X O X X X O | $$ | O O X O . . O X X X X X X X O X O O . | $$ | O X X O X O . O X . O . X O O O O X . | $$ | . X O . . . . . . . . X . X . . . X . | $$ ---------------------------------------
[go]$$Bc Captures: B+1 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X O X . O . . . X . . . X . . . | $$ | . . . X O X . . . , O . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . X . X O X . . . . O . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X O O O X . . . X . . . . . . . . | $$ | . X O O . X . . . . . . B X X O . . . | $$ | . O . . . . . . . . . . O O O X X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . X X . . X O X X . | $$ | . X . O . . . X . O O O O O O O O X . | $$ | O . . . . . O . . . . X X X O . . . . | $$ | . O X . . . . . . O X . . X O X X . . | $$ | O . O . . . . O . . X X X O . O X . . | $$ | X O O . . . . . X X X O X O O O O X . | $$ | . X O O . O . . X O O O O X O O X X . | $$ | X . X O . X O O X , O X O X O X X X O | $$ | O O X O . . O X X X X X X X O X O O . | $$ | O X X O X O . O X . O . X O O O O X . | $$ | . X O . . . . . . . . X . X . . . X . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
Cue the Doors song... "...break on through to the other side..." Either I will barely break throughk, or I will be taught a new tesuji the hard way. Regardless, I think I understand now how much better my other option would have been, instead of peeping.
Re: 66. Shaddy(1d) vs. Chew Terr(5k)
Posted: Wed Sep 01, 2010 4:28 pm
by Shaddy
$$Bc Captures: B+1 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X O X . O . . . X . . . X . . . | $$ | . . . X O X . . . , O . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . X . X O X . . . . O . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X O O O X . . . X . . . . . . . . | $$ | . X O O . X . . . . . W X X X O . . . | $$ | . O . . . . . . . . . . O O O X X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . X X . . X O X X . | $$ | . X . O . . . X . O O O O O O O O X . | $$ | O . . . . . O . . . . X X X O . . . . | $$ | . O X . . . . . . O X . . X O X X . . | $$ | O . O . . . . O . . X X X O . O X . . | $$ | X O O . . . . . X X X O X O O O O X . | $$ | . X O O . O . . X O O O O X O O X X . | $$ | X . X O . X O O X , O X O X O X X X O | $$ | O O X O . . O X X X X X X X O X O O . | $$ | O X X O X O . O X . O . X O O O O X . | $$ | . X O . . . . . . . . X . X . . . X . | $$ ---------------------------------------
[go]$$Bc Captures: B+1 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X O X . O . . . X . . . X . . . | $$ | . . . X O X . . . , O . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . X . X O X . . . . O . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X O O O X . . . X . . . . . . . . | $$ | . X O O . X . . . . . W X X X O . . . | $$ | . O . . . . . . . . . . O O O X X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . X X . . X O X X . | $$ | . X . O . . . X . O O O O O O O O X . | $$ | O . . . . . O . . . . X X X O . . . . | $$ | . O X . . . . . . O X . . X O X X . . | $$ | O . O . . . . O . . X X X O . O X . . | $$ | X O O . . . . . X X X O X O O O O X . | $$ | . X O O . O . . X O O O O X O O X X . | $$ | X . X O . X O O X , O X O X O X X X O | $$ | O O X O . . O X X X X X X X O X O O . | $$ | O X X O X O . O X . O . X O O O O X . | $$ | . X O . . . . . . . . X . X . . . X . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
. The situation now is slightly different, but I'm curious as to why you chose to draw back a bit on your extension at the top.