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Re: 38. Laman (1d) vs. Magicwand (3d)

Posted: Mon Jun 21, 2010 3:41 pm
by Magicwand
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[go]$$Bcm160 Move #165 - Prisoners: B=2, W=0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . X O 6 . . . O X O O . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . X X O . O . O X X O . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . O . . O X . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . X X O . . . . O X . X O . . |
$$ | . . X . . X O O . . . . O X . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . X X O . . . . O O O X X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . O O . . . O X X X . X O . |
$$ | . . . . . X X O . . O . . . X . X O . |
$$ | . . X X X . . X O , . . O O O , X O . |
$$ | . . . X . X X X X O . O X X O O O X . |
$$ | . . O X O . . X O . . O X O X . . X . |
$$ | . . X O O O . O O . O . X . X O . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . . . O X X . X X X X X . |
$$ | X X . . . O X X X O X O O O X . X O . |
$$ | O X X X X O O X . X . . O X X O X X . |
$$ | O O O O . O . O X X X . O . O . O O O |
$$ | . . . . . . O . O . . O . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Re: 38. Laman (1d) vs. Magicwand (3d)

Posted: Mon Jun 21, 2010 11:27 pm
by Laman
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[go]$$Bcm166 Move #166-170 - Prisoners: B=2, W=0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . X O O . . . O X O O . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . X X O . O . O X X O . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . O . . O X . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . X X O . . . . O X . X O . . |
$$ | . . X . . X O O . . . . O X . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . X X O . . . . O O O X X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . O O . . . O X X X . X O . |
$$ | . . . . . X X O . . O . . . X . X O . |
$$ | . . X X X . . X O , . . O O O , X O . |
$$ | . . . X . X X X X O . O X X O O O X . |
$$ | . . O X O . . X O . . O X O X 5 . X . |
$$ | . . X O O O . O O . O . X . X O . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . . . O X X . X X X X X . |
$$ | X X . . . O X X X O X O O O X . X O . |
$$ | O X X X X O O X . X . . O X X O X X . |
$$ | O O O O 1 O . O X X X . O 3 O . O O O |
$$ | . . . . 2 . O . O . . O . 4 . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

i don't want to wait with my sente anymore, though these moves are not very big

Re: 38. Laman (1d) vs. Magicwand (3d)

Posted: Tue Jun 22, 2010 2:14 am
by Magicwand
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[go]$$Wcm171 Move #171 - Prisoners: B=2, W=0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . 2 1 3 . . X . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . X O O . . . O X O O . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . X X O . O . O X X O . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . O . . O X . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . X X O . . . . O X . X O . . |
$$ | . . X . . X O O . . . . O X . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . X X O . . . . O O O X X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . O O . . . O X X X . X O . |
$$ | . . . . . X X O . . O . . . X . X O . |
$$ | . . X X X . . X O , . . O O O , X O . |
$$ | . . . X . X X X X O . O X X O O O X . |
$$ | . . O X O . . X O . . O X O X X . X . |
$$ | . . X O O O . O O . O . X . X O . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . . . O X X . X X X X X . |
$$ | X X . . . O X X X O X O O O X . X O . |
$$ | O X X X X O O X . X . . O X X O X X . |
$$ | O O O O X O . O X X X . O X O . O O O |
$$ | . . . . O . O . O . . O . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Re: 38. Laman (1d) vs. Magicwand (3d)

Posted: Tue Jun 22, 2010 5:15 am
by Magicwand
wow...i counted and i am losing badly.
i guess i lost this game...
i will try few moves and resign soon.

Re: 38. Laman (1d) vs. Magicwand (3d)

Posted: Tue Jun 22, 2010 7:07 am
by Jonas
Magicwand wrote:wow...i counted and i am losing badly.
i guess i lost this game...
i will try few moves and resign soon.



With badly he means he is behind by 8-10 points if I counted correctly ;)

Re: 38. Laman (1d) vs. Magicwand (3d)

Posted: Tue Jun 22, 2010 12:16 pm
by Laman
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[go]$$Wcm171 Move #174 - Prisoners: B=2, W=0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . X O O . . X . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . B . X O O . . . O X O O . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . X X O . O . O X X O . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . O . . O X . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . X X O . . . . O X . X O . . |
$$ | . . X . . X O O . . . . O X . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . X X O . . . . O O O X X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . O O . . . O X X X . X O . |
$$ | . . . . . X X O . . O . . . X . X O . |
$$ | . . X X X . . X O , . . O O O , X O . |
$$ | . . . X . X X X X O . O X X O O O X . |
$$ | . . O X O . . X O . . O X O X X . X . |
$$ | . . X O O O . O O . O . X . X O . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . . . O X X . X X X X X . |
$$ | X X . . . O X X X O X O O O X . X O . |
$$ | O X X X X O O X . X . . O X X O X X . |
$$ | O O O O X O . O X X X . O X O . O O O |
$$ | . . . . O . O . O . . O . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

asi count, it is still fairly close (and this means that with my poor endgame skills i will probably lose. but let see)

Re: 38. Laman (1d) vs. Magicwand (3d)

Posted: Tue Jun 22, 2010 12:20 pm
by Magicwand
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[go]$$Wcm175 Move #175 - Prisoners: B=3, W=0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . X O O . . X . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . X O O . . . O X O O . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . X X O . O . O X X O . . |
$$ | . . . X . . 2 1 . O . . O X . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . X X O . . . . O X 8 X O . . |
$$ | . . X . . X O O . . . . O X 7 X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . X X O . . . . O O O X X O . |
$$ | . . . . 4 3 O O . . . O X X X . X O . |
$$ | . . . . . X X O . . O . . . X . X O . |
$$ | . . X X X . . X O , . . O O O , X O . |
$$ | . . . X . X X X X O . O X X O O O X . |
$$ | . . O X O . . X O . . O X O X X 5 X . |
$$ | . . X O O O . O O . O . X . X . 6 . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . . . O X X . X X X X X . |
$$ | X X . . 9 O X X X O X O O O X . X O . |
$$ | O X X X X O O X . X . . O X X O X X . |
$$ | O O O O X O . O X X X . O X O . O O O |
$$ | . . . . O . O . O . . O . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
let me know if you disagree

Re: 38. Laman (1d) vs. Magicwand (3d)

Posted: Wed Jun 23, 2010 12:56 am
by Laman
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[go]$$Bcm180 Move #180-186 - Prisoners: B=3, W=0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . X O O . . X . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . X O O . . . O X O O . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . X X O . O . O X X O . . |
$$ | . . . X . . X O 1 O . . O X . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . X X O 2 . . . O X 5 X O . . |
$$ | . . X . . X O O . . . . O X 4 X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . X X O . . . . O O O X X O . |
$$ | . . . . X O O O . . . O X X X . X O . |
$$ | . . . . . X X O . . O . . . X . X O . |
$$ | . . X X X . . X O , . . O O O , X O . |
$$ | . . . X . X X X X O . O X X O O O X . |
$$ | . . O X O . . X O . . O X O X X W X . |
$$ | . . X O O O . O O . O . X . X . 3 . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . . . O X X . X X X X X . |
$$ | X X . 7 6 O X X X O X O O O X . X O . |
$$ | O X X X X O O X . X . . O X X O X X . |
$$ | O O O O X O . O X X X . O X O . O O O |
$$ | . . . . O . O . O . . O . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Re: 38. Laman (1d) vs. Magicwand (3d)

Posted: Wed Jun 23, 2010 1:30 am
by Magicwand
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[go]$$Bcm180 Move #180-186 - Prisoners: B=3, W=0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . X O O . . X . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . X O O . . . O X O O . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . X X O . O . O X X O . . |
$$ | . . . X . . X O X O . . O X . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . X X O O . . . O X X X O . . |
$$ | . . X . . X O O . . . . O X O X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . X X O . . . . O O O X X O . |
$$ | . . . . X O O O . . . O X X X . X O . |
$$ | . . . . . X X O . . O . . . X . X O . |
$$ | . . X X X . . X O , . . O O O , X O . |
$$ | . . . X . X X X X O . O X X O O O X . |
$$ | . . O X O . . X O . . O X O X X O X . |
$$ | . . X O O O . O O . O . X . X . X . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . . . O X X . X X X X X . |
$$ | X X . X O O X X X O X O O O X . X O . |
$$ | O X X X X O O X . X . . O X X O X X . |
$$ | O O O O X O . O X X X . O X O . O O O |
$$ | . . . . O . O . O . W O . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Re: 38. Laman (1d) vs. Magicwand (3d)

Posted: Wed Jun 23, 2010 2:08 am
by Laman
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[go]$$Bcm188 Move #188-190 - Prisoners: B=3, W=0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . X O O . . X . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . X O O . . . O X O O . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . X X O . O . O X X O . . |
$$ | . . . X . . X O X O . . O X . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . X X O O . . . O X X X O . . |
$$ | . . X . . X O O . . . . O X O X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . X X O . . . . O O O X X O . |
$$ | . . . . X O O O . . . O X X X . X O . |
$$ | . . . . . X X O . . O . 3 . X . X O . |
$$ | . . X X X . . X O , . . O O O , X O . |
$$ | . . . X . X X X X O . O X X O O O X . |
$$ | . . O X O . . X O . . O X O X X O X . |
$$ | . . X O O O . O O . O . X . X . X . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . . . O X X . X X X X X . |
$$ | X X . X O O X X X O X O O O X . X O . |
$$ | O X X X X O O X . X . . O X X O X X . |
$$ | O O O O X O . O X X X . O X O . O O O |
$$ | . . . . O . O . O 1 O O . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O . 2 . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Re: 38. Laman (1d) vs. Magicwand (3d)

Posted: Wed Jun 23, 2010 3:38 am
by cyclops
a rough count ( not for the players, though I can't count )
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[go]$$c
$$ +---------------------------------------+
$$ | . . . . . . X O O j i X f X k l . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . X O O h g e O X O O . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . X X O . O d O X X O . . |
$$ | . . . X . . X O X O . . O X . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . X X O O . . . O X X X O . . |
$$ | . . X . . X O O . . . . O X O X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . X X O . . . . O O O X X O . |
$$ | . . . . X O O O . . . O X X X . X O . |
$$ | . . . . . X X O . . O o X q X . X O . |
$$ | . . X X X . . X O , . p O O O r X O m |
$$ | . . . X C X X X X O . O X X O O O X n |
$$ | . . O X O C C X O . . O X O X X O X . |
$$ | . . X O O O C O O u O s X a X . X . . |
$$ | . . X X C C C C C O X X t X X X X X . |
$$ | X X . X O O X X X O X O O O X C X O c |
$$ | O X X X X O O X C X C C O X X O X X C |
$$ | O O O O X O . O X X X C O X O C O O O |
$$ | . . . . O . O . O X O O b O . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O . O . . . . . . . . . |
$$ +---------------------------------------+[/go]


black: LT = 62, RT = 3, CR =7; total 72 + 2 prisoners = 74
white: CT = 24, TR = 16, B = 30; total= 70
letters and circels not counted as points. questionable: a,b, u, c, above r, d..l

Re: 38. Laman (1d) vs. Magicwand (3d)

Posted: Wed Jun 23, 2010 4:45 am
by Magicwand
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[go]$$Bcm188 Move #188-190 - Prisoners: B=3, W=0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . X O O . . X . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . X O O . . . O X O O . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . X X O . O . O X X O . . |
$$ | . . . X . . X O X O . . O X . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . X X O O . . . O X X X O . . |
$$ | . . X . . X O O . . . . O X O X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . X X O . . . . O O O X X O . |
$$ | . . . . X O O O . . . O X X X . X O . |
$$ | . . . . . X X O . . O W X . X . X O . |
$$ | . . X X X . . X O , . . O O O , X O . |
$$ | . . . X . X X X X O . O X X O O O X . |
$$ | . . O X O . . X O . . O X O X X O X . |
$$ | . . X O O O . O O . O . X . X . X . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . . . O X X . X X X X X . |
$$ | X X . X O O X X X O X O O O X . X O . |
$$ | O X X X X O O X . X . . O X X O X X . |
$$ | O O O O X O . O X X X . O X O . O O O |
$$ | . . . . O . O . O X O O . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O . O . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Re: 38. Laman (1d) vs. Magicwand (3d)

Posted: Wed Jun 23, 2010 9:02 am
by Laman
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[go]$$Bcm192 Move #192-194 - Prisoners: B=3, W=0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . X O O . . X . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . X O O . . . O X O O . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . X X O . O . O X X O . . |
$$ | . . . X . . X O X O . . O X . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . X X O O . . . O X X X O . . |
$$ | . . X . . X O O . . . . O X O X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . X X O . . . . O O O X X O . |
$$ | . . . . X O O O . . . O X X X . X O . |
$$ | . . . . . X X O . . O O X . X . X O . |
$$ | . . X X X . . X O , . . O O O , X O . |
$$ | . . . X . X X X X O . O X X O O O X . |
$$ | . . O X O . . X O . . O X O X X O X . |
$$ | . . X O O O . O O 2 O . X . X . X . . |
$$ | . . X X . . 3 . 1 O X X . X X X X X . |
$$ | X X . X O O X X X O X O O O X . X O . |
$$ | O X X X X O O X . X . . O X X O X X . |
$$ | O O O O X O . O X X X . O X O . O O O |
$$ | . . . . O . O . O X O O . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O . O . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

let count it once again:
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[go]$$Bcm1 Diagram 1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . X O O . . X . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . X O O . . . O X O O . a |
$$ | . . g . X . . X X O . O . O X X O . . |
$$ | . . . X . . X O X O . . O X . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . X X O O . . . O X X X O . . |
$$ | . . X . . X O O . . d . O X O X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . X X O . . . . O O O X X O . |
$$ | . . . . X O O O . . . O X X X e X O . |
$$ | . . . . . X X O . . O O X . X . X O . |
$$ | . . X X X . . X O , . . O O O , X O . |
$$ | . . . X . X X X X O . O X X O O O X . |
$$ | . . O X O . . X O . . O X O X X O X . |
$$ | . . X O O O . O O O O . X . X . X . f |
$$ | . . X X . . X . X O X X . X X X X X . |
$$ | X X . X O O X X X O X O O O X . X O . |
$$ | O X X X X O O X . X . . O X X O X X . |
$$ | O O O O X O . O X X X . O X O . O O O |
$$ | . . . . O . O . O X O O . O . b . . . |
$$ | . . c . . . . O . P . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

a - white upper right corner = 15
b - white lower right corner = 15 (more likely) or 14
c - white lower left corner = 15
d - white center = 25 or 26
e - black upper right = 2 or 3
f - black lower right = 10
g - black upper left quarter = 62
h - 3 captured white stones = 3
so, overall balance is: e + f + g + h - a - b - c - d = 2 + 10 + 62 + 3 - 15 - 15 - 15 - 25 = 7 points advantage for me. it looks quite satisfying even considering possible mistake in my analysis

Re: 38. Laman (1d) vs. Magicwand (3d)

Posted: Wed Jun 23, 2010 9:12 am
by Magicwand
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[go]$$Bcm192 Move #192-194 - Prisoners: B=3, W=0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . X O O . . X . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . X O O . . . O X O O . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . X X O . O . O X X O . . |
$$ | . . . X . . X O X O . . O X . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . X X O O . . . O X X X O . . |
$$ | . . X . . X O O . . . . O X O X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . X X O . . . . O O O X X O . |
$$ | . . . . X O O O . . . O X X X . X O . |
$$ | . . . . . X X O . . O O X . X . X O . |
$$ | . . X X X . . X O , . . O O O , X O . |
$$ | . . . X . X X X X O . O X X O O O X . |
$$ | . . O X O . . X O . . O X O X X O X . |
$$ | . . X O O O . O O O O . X . X . X . . |
$$ | . . X X . . X . X O X X . X X X X X . |
$$ | X X . X O O X X X O X O O O X . X O . |
$$ | O X X X X O O X . X . . O X X O X X . |
$$ | O O O O X O . O X X X W O X O . O O O |
$$ | . . . . O . O . O X O O . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O . O . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Re: 38. Laman (1d) vs. Magicwand (3d)

Posted: Wed Jun 23, 2010 9:24 am
by Laman
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[go]$$Bcm192 Move #196 - Prisoners: B=3, W=0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . X O O . . X . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . X O O . . . O X O O . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . X X O . O . O X X O . . |
$$ | . . . X . . X O X O . . O X . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . X X O O . . . O X X X O . . |
$$ | . . X . . X O O . . . . O X O X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . X X O . . . . O O O X X O . |
$$ | . . . . X O O O . . . O X X X . X O . |
$$ | . . . . . X X O . . O O X . X . X O . |
$$ | . . X X X . . X O , . . O O O , X O . |
$$ | . . . X . X X X X O . O X X O O O X . |
$$ | . . O X O . . X O . . O X O X X O X . |
$$ | . . X O O O . O O O O . X . X . X . . |
$$ | . . X X . . X . X O X X . X X X X X . |
$$ | X X . X O O X X X O X O O O X . X O . |
$$ | O X X X X O O X . X B . O X X O X X . |
$$ | O O O O X O . O X X X O O X O . O O O |
$$ | . . . . O . O . O X O O . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O . O . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

hmm, i was a bit tempted to connect at G7 instead, but it would led to a ko at L4 (ko for my 5 stones, otherwise surely losing 3 stones) and in light of previous count i have no intention in complicating game with an unfavourable ko