$$Bc Captures: B+1 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X O X . O . . . X . . . X . . . | $$ | . . . X O X . . . , O . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . X . X O X . . . . O . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X O O O X . . . X B . . . . . . . | $$ | . X O O . X . . . . . O X X X O . . . | $$ | . O . . . . . . . . . . O O O X X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . X X . . X O X X . | $$ | . X . O . . . X . O O O O O O O O X . | $$ | O . . . . . O . . . . X X X O . . . . | $$ | . O X . . . . . . O X . . X O X X . . | $$ | O . O . . . . O . . X X X O . O X . . | $$ | X O O . . . . . X X X O X O O O O X . | $$ | . X O O . O . . X O O O O X O O X X . | $$ | X . X O . X O O X , O X O X O X X X O | $$ | O O X O . . O X X X X X X X O X O O . | $$ | O X X O X O . O X . O . X O O O O X . | $$ | . X O . . . . . . . . X . X . . . X . | $$ ---------------------------------------
[go]$$Bc Captures: B+1 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X O X . O . . . X . . . X . . . | $$ | . . . X O X . . . , O . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . X . X O X . . . . O . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X O O O X . . . X B . . . . . . . | $$ | . X O O . X . . . . . O X X X O . . . | $$ | . O . . . . . . . . . . O O O X X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . X X . . X O X X . | $$ | . X . O . . . X . O O O O O O O O X . | $$ | O . . . . . O . . . . X X X O . . . . | $$ | . O X . . . . . . O X . . X O X X . . | $$ | O . O . . . . O . . X X X O . O X . . | $$ | X O O . . . . . X X X O X O O O O X . | $$ | . X O O . O . . X O O O O X O O X X . | $$ | X . X O . X O O X , O X O X O X X X O | $$ | O O X O . . O X X X X X X X O X O O . | $$ | O X X O X O . O X . O . X O O O O X . | $$ | . X O . . . . . . . . X . X . . . X . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
Re: 66. Shaddy(1d) vs. Chew Terr(5k)
Posted: Thu Sep 02, 2010 8:34 am
by Shaddy
$$Bc Captures: B+1 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X O X . O . . . X . . . X . . . | $$ | . . . X O X . . . , O . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . X . X O X . . . . O . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X O O O X . W . X X . . . . . . . | $$ | . X O O . X . . . . . O X X X O . . . | $$ | . O . . . . . . . . . . O O O X X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . X X . . X O X X . | $$ | . X . O . . . X . O O O O O O O O X . | $$ | O . . . . . O . . . . X X X O . . . . | $$ | . O X . . . . . . O X . . X O X X . . | $$ | O . O . . . . O . . X X X O . O X . . | $$ | X O O . . . . . X X X O X O O O O X . | $$ | . X O O . O . . X O O O O X O O X X . | $$ | X . X O . X O O X , O X O X O X X X O | $$ | O O X O . . O X X X X X X X O X O O . | $$ | O X X O X O . O X . O . X O O O O X . | $$ | . X O . . . . . . . . X . X . . . X . | $$ ---------------------------------------
[go]$$Bc Captures: B+1 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X O X . O . . . X . . . X . . . | $$ | . . . X O X . . . , O . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . X . X O X . . . . O . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X O O O X . W . X X . . . . . . . | $$ | . X O O . X . . . . . O X X X O . . . | $$ | . O . . . . . . . . . . O O O X X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . X X . . X O X X . | $$ | . X . O . . . X . O O O O O O O O X . | $$ | O . . . . . O . . . . X X X O . . . . | $$ | . O X . . . . . . O X . . X O X X . . | $$ | O . O . . . . O . . X X X O . O X . . | $$ | X O O . . . . . X X X O X O O O O X . | $$ | . X O O . O . . X O O O O X O O X X . | $$ | X . X O . X O O X , O X O X O X X X O | $$ | O O X O . . O X X X X X X X O X O O . | $$ | O X X O X O . O X . O . X O O O O X . | $$ | . X O . . . . . . . . X . X . . . X . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
Re: 66. Shaddy(1d) vs. Chew Terr(5k)
Posted: Thu Sep 02, 2010 1:21 pm
by Chew Terr
$$Bc Captures: B+1 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X O X . O . . . X . . . X . . . | $$ | . . . X O X . . . , O . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . X . X O X . . . . O . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X O O O X . W . X X . . . . . . . | $$ | . X O O . X . . . . . O X X X O . . . | $$ | . O . . . . . . 1 . . . O O O X X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . X X . . X O X X . | $$ | . X . O . . . X . O O O O O O O O X . | $$ | O . . . . . O . . . . X X X O . . . . | $$ | . O X . . . . . . O X . . X O X X . . | $$ | O . O . . . . O . . X X X O . O X . . | $$ | X O O . . . . . X X X O X O O O O X . | $$ | . X O O . O . . X O O O O X O O X X . | $$ | X . X O . X O O X , O X O X O X X X O | $$ | O O X O . . O X X X X X X X O X O O . | $$ | O X X O X O . O X . O . X O O O O X . | $$ | . X O . . . . . . . . X . X . . . X . | $$ ---------------------------------------
[go]$$Bc Captures: B+1 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X O X . O . . . X . . . X . . . | $$ | . . . X O X . . . , O . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . X . X O X . . . . O . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X O O O X . W . X X . . . . . . . | $$ | . X O O . X . . . . . O X X X O . . . | $$ | . O . . . . . . 1 . . . O O O X X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . X X . . X O X X . | $$ | . X . O . . . X . O O O O O O O O X . | $$ | O . . . . . O . . . . X X X O . . . . | $$ | . O X . . . . . . O X . . X O X X . . | $$ | O . O . . . . O . . X X X O . O X . . | $$ | X O O . . . . . X X X O X O O O O X . | $$ | . X O O . O . . X O O O O X O O X X . | $$ | X . X O . X O O X , O X O X O X X X O | $$ | O O X O . . O X X X X X X X O X O O . | $$ | O X X O X O . O X . O . X O O O O X . | $$ | . X O . . . . . . . . X . X . . . X . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
$$Bc Captures: B+1 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X O X . O . . . X . . . X . . . | $$ | . . . X O X . . . , O . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . X . X O X . b . . O . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X O O O X . W . X X . . . . . . . | $$ | . X O O . X . c d . . O X X X O . . . | $$ | . O . . . . . . a . . . O O O X X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . X X . . X O X X . | $$ | . X . O . . . X . O O O O O O O O X . | $$ | O . . . . . O . . . . X X X O . . . . | $$ | . O X . . . . . . O X . . X O X X . . | $$ | O . O . . . . O . . X X X O . O X . . | $$ | X O O . . . . . X X X O X O O O O X . | $$ | . X O O . O . . X O O O O X O O X X . | $$ | X . X O . X O O X , O X O X O X X X O | $$ | O O X O . . O X X X X X X X O X O O . | $$ | O X X O X O . O X . O . X O O O O X . | $$ | . X O . . . . . . . . X . X . . . X . | $$ ---------------------------------------
[go]$$Bc Captures: B+1 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X O X . O . . . X . . . X . . . | $$ | . . . X O X . . . , O . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . X . X O X . b . . O . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X O O O X . W . X X . . . . . . . | $$ | . X O O . X . c d . . O X X X O . . . | $$ | . O . . . . . . a . . . O O O X X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . X X . . X O X X . | $$ | . X . O . . . X . O O O O O O O O X . | $$ | O . . . . . O . . . . X X X O . . . . | $$ | . O X . . . . . . O X . . X O X X . . | $$ | O . O . . . . O . . X X X O . O X . . | $$ | X O O . . . . . X X X O X O O O O X . | $$ | . X O O . O . . X O O O O X O O X X . | $$ | X . X O . X O O X , O X O X O X X X O | $$ | O O X O . . O X X X X X X X O X O O . | $$ | O X X O X O . O X . O . X O O O O X . | $$ | . X O . . . . . . . . X . X . . . X . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
I considered all sorts of stuff from a-d, but this seems to me to be my best option. If my opponent captures those four stones, I THINK he will be forcing me to connect and pushing me into his territory below. After this section, I am definitely going to have to stop to count, and consider my options based on that.
Re: 66. Shaddy(1d) vs. Chew Terr(5k)
Posted: Thu Sep 02, 2010 2:11 pm
by Shaddy
$$Bc Captures: B+1 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X O X . O . . . X . . . X . . . | $$ | . . . X O X . . . , O . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . X . X O X . . . . O . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X O O O X . O . X X . . . . . . . | $$ | . X O O . X . . . . W O X X X O . . . | $$ | . O . . . . . . X . . . O O O X X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . X X . . X O X X . | $$ | . X . O . . . X . O O O O O O O O X . | $$ | O . . . . . O . . . . X X X O . . . . | $$ | . O X . . . . . . O X . . X O X X . . | $$ | O . O . . . . O . . X X X O . O X . . | $$ | X O O . . . . . X X X O X O O O O X . | $$ | . X O O . O . . X O O O O X O O X X . | $$ | X . X O . X O O X , O X O X O X X X O | $$ | O O X O . . O X X X X X X X O X O O . | $$ | O X X O X O . O X . O . X O O O O X . | $$ | . X O . . . . . . . . X . X . . . X . | $$ ---------------------------------------
[go]$$Bc Captures: B+1 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X O X . O . . . X . . . X . . . | $$ | . . . X O X . . . , O . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . X . X O X . . . . O . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X O O O X . O . X X . . . . . . . | $$ | . X O O . X . . . . W O X X X O . . . | $$ | . O . . . . . . X . . . O O O X X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . X X . . X O X X . | $$ | . X . O . . . X . O O O O O O O O X . | $$ | O . . . . . O . . . . X X X O . . . . | $$ | . O X . . . . . . O X . . X O X X . . | $$ | O . O . . . . O . . X X X O . O X . . | $$ | X O O . . . . . X X X O X O O O O X . | $$ | . X O O . O . . X O O O O X O O X X . | $$ | X . X O . X O O X , O X O X O X X X O | $$ | O O X O . . O X X X X X X X O X O O . | $$ | O X X O X O . O X . O . X O O O O X . | $$ | . X O . . . . . . . . X . X . . . X . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
$$Bc Captures: B+1 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X O X . O . . . X . . . X . . . | $$ | . . . X O X . . . , O . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . X . X O X . . B . O . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X O O O X . W . X X . . . . . . . | $$ | . X O O . X . . . . . O X X X O . . . | $$ | . O . . . . . . . . . . O O O X X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . X X . . X O X X . | $$ | . X . O . . . X . O O O O O O O O X . | $$ | O . . . . . O . . . . X X X O . . . . | $$ | . O X . . . . . . O X . . X O X X . . | $$ | O . O . . . . O . . X X X O . O X . . | $$ | X O O . . . . . X X X O X O O O O X . | $$ | . X O O . O . . X O O O O X O O X X . | $$ | X . X O . X O O X , O X O X O X X X O | $$ | O O X O . . O X X X X X X X O X O O . | $$ | O X X O X O . O X . O . X O O O O X . | $$ | . X O . . . . . . . . X . X . . . X . | $$ ---------------------------------------
[go]$$Bc Captures: B+1 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X O X . O . . . X . . . X . . . | $$ | . . . X O X . . . , O . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . X . X O X . . B . O . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X O O O X . W . X X . . . . . . . | $$ | . X O O . X . . . . . O X X X O . . . | $$ | . O . . . . . . . . . . O O O X X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . X X . . X O X X . | $$ | . X . O . . . X . O O O O O O O O X . | $$ | O . . . . . O . . . . X X X O . . . . | $$ | . O X . . . . . . O X . . X O X X . . | $$ | O . O . . . . O . . X X X O . O X . . | $$ | X O O . . . . . X X X O X O O O O X . | $$ | . X O O . O . . X O O O O X O O X X . | $$ | X . X O . X O O X , O X O X O X X X O | $$ | O O X O . . O X X X X X X X O X O O . | $$ | O X X O X O . O X . O . X O O O O X . | $$ | . X O . . . . . . . . X . X . . . X . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
of all the next moves, i feared this one most.
Re: 66. Shaddy(1d) vs. Chew Terr(5k)
Posted: Thu Sep 02, 2010 2:20 pm
by Chew Terr
$$Bc Captures: B+1 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X O X . O . . . X . . . X . . . | $$ | . . . X O X . . . , O . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . X . X O X . . . . O . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X O O O X . O B X X . . . . . . . | $$ | . X O O . X . . . . O O X X X O . . . | $$ | . O . . . . . . X . . . O O O X X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . X X . . X O X X . | $$ | . X . O . . . X . O O O O O O O O X . | $$ | O . . . . . O . . . . X X X O . . . . | $$ | . O X . . . . . . O X . . X O X X . . | $$ | O . O . . . . O . . X X X O . O X . . | $$ | X O O . . . . . X X X O X O O O O X . | $$ | . X O O . O . . X O O O O X O O X X . | $$ | X . X O . X O O X , O X O X O X X X O | $$ | O O X O . . O X X X X X X X O X O O . | $$ | O X X O X O . O X . O . X O O O O X . | $$ | . X O . . . . . . . . X . X . . . X . | $$ ---------------------------------------
[go]$$Bc Captures: B+1 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X O X . O . . . X . . . X . . . | $$ | . . . X O X . . . , O . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . X . X O X . . . . O . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X O O O X . O B X X . . . . . . . | $$ | . X O O . X . . . . O O X X X O . . . | $$ | . O . . . . . . X . . . O O O X X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . X X . . X O X X . | $$ | . X . O . . . X . O O O O O O O O X . | $$ | O . . . . . O . . . . X X X O . . . . | $$ | . O X . . . . . . O X . . X O X X . . | $$ | O . O . . . . O . . X X X O . O X . . | $$ | X O O . . . . . X X X O X O O O O X . | $$ | . X O O . O . . X O O O O X O O X X . | $$ | X . X O . X O O X , O X O X O X X X O | $$ | O O X O . . O X X X X X X X O X O O . | $$ | O X X O X O . O X . O . X O O O O X . | $$ | . X O . . . . . . . . X . X . . . X . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
Oh, I forgot that one. I did consider that, but decided to hold it for later, lest you try to push into my corner area. Would you mind showing me the sort of followup that scared you? I figured you would block solidly and I would be hurting my efforts to connect below.
Re: 66. Shaddy(1d) vs. Chew Terr(5k)
Posted: Thu Sep 02, 2010 5:35 pm
by Shaddy
$$Bc Captures: B+1 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X O X . O . . . X . . . X . . . | $$ | . . . X O X . . . , O . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . X . X O X . . . . O . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X O O O X . O X X X . . . . . . . | $$ | . X O O . X . . . W O O X X X O . . . | $$ | . O . . . . . . X . . . O O O X X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . X X . . X O X X . | $$ | . X . O . . . X . O O O O O O O O X . | $$ | O . . . . . O . . . . X X X O . . . . | $$ | . O X . . . . . . O X . . X O X X . . | $$ | O . O . . . . O . . X X X O . O X . . | $$ | X O O . . . . . X X X O X O O O O X . | $$ | . X O O . O . . X O O O O X O O X X . | $$ | X . X O . X O O X , O X O X O X X X O | $$ | O O X O . . O X X X X X X X O X O O . | $$ | O X X O X O . O X . O . X O O O O X . | $$ | . X O . . . . . . . . X . X . . . X . | $$ ---------------------------------------
[go]$$Bc Captures: B+1 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X O X . O . . . X . . . X . . . | $$ | . . . X O X . . . , O . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . X . X O X . . . . O . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X O O O X . O X X X . . . . . . . | $$ | . X O O . X . . . W O O X X X O . . . | $$ | . O . . . . . . X . . . O O O X X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . X X . . X O X X . | $$ | . X . O . . . X . O O O O O O O O X . | $$ | O . . . . . O . . . . X X X O . . . . | $$ | . O X . . . . . . O X . . X O X X . . | $$ | O . O . . . . O . . X X X O . O X . . | $$ | X O O . . . . . X X X O X O O O O X . | $$ | . X O O . O . . X O O O O X O O X X . | $$ | X . X O . X O O X , O X O X O X X X O | $$ | O O X O . . O X X X X X X X O X O O . | $$ | O X X O X O . O X . O . X O O O O X . | $$ | . X O . . . . . . . . X . X . . . X . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
It makes miai of cutting my stones off and connecting to your own stones. I don't like that, I'm short on territory to begin with.
Re: 66. Shaddy(1d) vs. Chew Terr(5k)
Posted: Fri Sep 03, 2010 8:03 am
by Chew Terr
$$Bc Captures: B+1 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X O X . O . . . X . . . X . . . | $$ | . . . X O X . . . , O . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . X . X O X . . B . O . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X O O O X . O X X X . . . . . . . | $$ | . X O O . X . . . O O O X X X O . . . | $$ | . O . . . . . . X . . . O O O X X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . X X . . X O X X . | $$ | . X . O . . . X . O O O O O O O O X . | $$ | O . . . . . O . . . . X X X O . . . . | $$ | . O X . . . . . . O X . . X O X X . . | $$ | O . O . . . . O . . X X X O . O X . . | $$ | X O O . . . . . X X X O X O O O O X . | $$ | . X O O . O . . X O O O O X O O X X . | $$ | X . X O . X O O X , O X O X O X X X O | $$ | O O X O . . O X X X X X X X O X O O . | $$ | O X X O X O . O X . O . X O O O O X . | $$ | . X O . . . . . . . . X . X . . . X . | $$ ---------------------------------------
[go]$$Bc Captures: B+1 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X O X . O . . . X . . . X . . . | $$ | . . . X O X . . . , O . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . X . X O X . . B . O . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X O O O X . O X X X . . . . . . . | $$ | . X O O . X . . . O O O X X X O . . . | $$ | . O . . . . . . X . . . O O O X X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . X X . . X O X X . | $$ | . X . O . . . X . O O O O O O O O X . | $$ | O . . . . . O . . . . X X X O . . . . | $$ | . O X . . . . . . O X . . X O X X . . | $$ | O . O . . . . O . . X X X O . O X . . | $$ | X O O . . . . . X X X O X O O O O X . | $$ | . X O O . O . . X O O O O X O O X X . | $$ | X . X O . X O O X , O X O X O X X X O | $$ | O O X O . . O X X X X X X X O X O O . | $$ | O X X O X O . O X . O . X O O O O X . | $$ | . X O . . . . . . . . X . X . . . X . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
Yes, Admiral Ackbar, we KNOW there is a trap here. (Good move, by the way, Shaddy).
$$Bc what MHO wants $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X O X . O . . . X . . . X . . . | $$ | . . . X O X . . . , O . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . X . X O X . . 4 . O . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X O O O X . O X X X 2 . . 3 . . . | $$ | . X O O . X . . 1 W O O X X X O . . . | $$ | . O . . . . . . X . . . O O O X X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . X X . . X O X X . | $$ | . X . O . . . X . O O O O O O O O X . | $$ | O . . . . . O . . . . X X X O . . . . | $$ | . O X . . . . . . O X . . X O X X . . | $$ | O . O . . . . O . . X X X O . O X . . | $$ | X O O . . . . . X X X O X O O O O X . | $$ | . X O O . O . . X O O O O X O O X X . | $$ | X . X O . X O O X , O X O X O X X X O | $$ | O O X O . . O X X X X X X X O X O O . | $$ | O X X O X O . O X . O . X O O O O X . | $$ | . X O . . . . . . . . X . X . . . X . | $$ ---------------------------------------
[go]$$Bc what MHO wants $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X O X . O . . . X . . . X . . . | $$ | . . . X O X . . . , O . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . X . X O X . . 4 . O . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X O O O X . O X X X 2 . . 3 . . . | $$ | . X O O . X . . 1 W O O X X X O . . . | $$ | . O . . . . . . X . . . O O O X X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . X X . . X O X X . | $$ | . X . O . . . X . O O O O O O O O X . | $$ | O . . . . . O . . . . X X X O . . . . | $$ | . O X . . . . . . O X . . X O X X . . | $$ | O . O . . . . O . . X X X O . O X . . | $$ | X O O . . . . . X X X O X O O O O X . | $$ | . X O O . O . . X O O O O X O O X X . | $$ | X . X O . X O O X , O X O X O X X X O | $$ | O O X O . . O X X X X X X X O X O O . | $$ | O X X O X O . O X . O . X O O O O X . | $$ | . X O . . . . . . . . X . X . . . X . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
He can cut, and threaten to kill.
$$Bc What I would like $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X O X . O . . . X . . . X . . . | $$ | . . . X O X . . . , O . . 8 . X . . . | $$ | . . X . X O X . 9 . . O 3 6 7 . . . . | $$ | . . X O O O X . O X X X 2 4 5 . . . . | $$ | . X O O . X . . 1 W O O X X X O . . . | $$ | . O . . . . . . X . . . O O O X X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . X X . . X O X X . | $$ | . X . O . . . X . O O O O O O O O X . | $$ | O . . . . . O . . . . X X X O . . . . | $$ | . O X . . . . . . O X . . X O X X . . | $$ | O . O . . . . O . . X X X O . O X . . | $$ | X O O . . . . . X X X O X O O O O X . | $$ | . X O O . O . . X O O O O X O O X X . | $$ | X . X O . X O O X , O X O X O X X X O | $$ | O O X O . . O X X X X X X X O X O O . | $$ | O X X O X O . O X . O . X O O O O X . | $$ | . X O . . . . . . . . X . X . . . X . | $$ ---------------------------------------
[go]$$Bc What I would like $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X O X . O . . . X . . . X . . . | $$ | . . . X O X . . . , O . . 8 . X . . . | $$ | . . X . X O X . 9 . . O 3 6 7 . . . . | $$ | . . X O O O X . O X X X 2 4 5 . . . . | $$ | . X O O . X . . 1 W O O X X X O . . . | $$ | . O . . . . . . X . . . O O O X X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . X X . . X O X X . | $$ | . X . O . . . X . O O O O O O O O X . | $$ | O . . . . . O . . . . X X X O . . . . | $$ | . O X . . . . . . O X . . X O X X . . | $$ | O . O . . . . O . . X X X O . O X . . | $$ | X O O . . . . . X X X O X O O O O X . | $$ | . X O O . O . . X O O O O X O O X X . | $$ | X . X O . X O O X , O X O X O X X X O | $$ | O O X O . . O X X X X X X X O X O O . | $$ | O X X O X O . O X . O . X O O O O X . | $$ | . X O . . . . . . . . X . X . . . X . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
I can try to be tricky and still connect?
$$Bc What I would get $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X O X . O . . . X . . . X . . . | $$ | . . . X O X . . . , O . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . X . X O X . 4 . . O 3 . . . . . . | $$ | . . X O O O X . O X X X 2 5 . . . . . | $$ | . X O O . X . . 1 W O O X X X O . . . | $$ | . O . . . . . . X . . 6 O O O X X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . X X . . X O X X . | $$ | . X . O . . . X . O O O O O O O O X . | $$ | O . . . . . O . . . . X X X O . . . . | $$ | . O X . . . . . . O X . . X O X X . . | $$ | O . O . . . . O . . X X X O . O X . . | $$ | X O O . . . . . X X X O X O O O O X . | $$ | . X O O . O . . X O O O O X O O X X . | $$ | X . X O . X O O X , O X O X O X X X O | $$ | O O X O . . O X X X X X X X O X O O . | $$ | O X X O X O . O X . O . X O O O O X . | $$ | . X O . . . . . . . . X . X . . . X . | $$ ---------------------------------------
[go]$$Bc What I would get $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X O X . O . . . X . . . X . . . | $$ | . . . X O X . . . , O . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . X . X O X . 4 . . O 3 . . . . . . | $$ | . . X O O O X . O X X X 2 5 . . . . . | $$ | . X O O . X . . 1 W O O X X X O . . . | $$ | . O . . . . . . X . . 6 O O O X X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . X X . . X O X X . | $$ | . X . O . . . X . O O O O O O O O X . | $$ | O . . . . . O . . . . X X X O . . . . | $$ | . O X . . . . . . O X . . X O X X . . | $$ | O . O . . . . O . . X X X O . O X . . | $$ | X O O . . . . . X X X O X O O O O X . | $$ | . X O O . O . . X O O O O X O O X X . | $$ | X . X O . X O O X , O X O X O X X X O | $$ | O O X O . . O X X X X X X X O X O O . | $$ | O X X O X O . O X . O . X O O O O X . | $$ | . X O . . . . . . . . X . X . . . X . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
But white can (and would) shut me down, and take the whole thing. (What a jerk!) So, let's look further back, to find alternatives.
$$Bc Captures: B+1 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X O X . O . . . X . . . X . . . | $$ | . . . X O X . . . , O . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . X . X O X . 1 4 . O 3 . . . . . . | $$ | . . X O O O X . O X X X 2 5 . . . . . | $$ | . X O O . X . . . W O O X X X O . . . | $$ | . O . . . . . . X . . . O O O X X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . X X . . X O X X . | $$ | . X . O . . . X . O O O O O O O O X . | $$ | O . . . . . O . . . . X X X O . . . . | $$ | . O X . . . . . . O X . . X O X X . . | $$ | O . O . . . . O . . X X X O . O X . . | $$ | X O O . . . . . X X X O X O O O O X . | $$ | . X O O . O . . X O O O O X O O X X . | $$ | X . X O . X O O X , O X O X O X X X O | $$ | O O X O . . O X X X X X X X O X O O . | $$ | O X X O X O . O X . O . X O O O O X . | $$ | . X O . . . . . . . . X . X . . . X . | $$ ---------------------------------------
[go]$$Bc Captures: B+1 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X O X . O . . . X . . . X . . . | $$ | . . . X O X . . . , O . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . X . X O X . 1 4 . O 3 . . . . . . | $$ | . . X O O O X . O X X X 2 5 . . . . . | $$ | . X O O . X . . . W O O X X X O . . . | $$ | . O . . . . . . X . . . O O O X X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . X X . . X O X X . | $$ | . X . O . . . X . O O O O O O O O X . | $$ | O . . . . . O . . . . X X X O . . . . | $$ | . O X . . . . . . O X . . X O X X . . | $$ | O . O . . . . O . . X X X O . O X . . | $$ | X O O . . . . . X X X O X O O O O X . | $$ | . X O O . O . . X O O O O X O O X X . | $$ | X . X O . X O O X , O X O X O X X X O | $$ | O O X O . . O X X X X X X X O X O O . | $$ | O X X O X O . O X . O . X O O O O X . | $$ | . X O . . . . . . . . X . X . . . X . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
No good.
$$Bc Captures: B+1 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X O X . O . . . X . . . X . . . | $$ | . . . X O X . . . 3 O . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . X . X O X . 2 1 . O . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X O O O X . O X X X . . . . . . . | $$ | . X O O . X . . 4 W O O X X X O . . . | $$ | . O . . . . . . X . . . O O O X X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . X X . . X O X X . | $$ | . X . O . . . X . O O O O O O O O X . | $$ | O . . . . . O . . . . X X X O . . . . | $$ | . O X . . . . . . O X . . X O X X . . | $$ | O . O . . . . O . . X X X O . O X . . | $$ | X O O . . . . . X X X O X O O O O X . | $$ | . X O O . O . . X O O O O X O O X X . | $$ | X . X O . X O O X , O X O X O X X X O | $$ | O O X O . . O X X X X X X X O X O O . | $$ | O X X O X O . O X . O . X O O O O X . | $$ | . X O . . . . . . . . X . X . . . X . | $$ ---------------------------------------
[go]$$Bc Captures: B+1 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X O X . O . . . X . . . X . . . | $$ | . . . X O X . . . 3 O . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . X . X O X . 2 1 . O . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X O O O X . O X X X . . . . . . . | $$ | . X O O . X . . 4 W O O X X X O . . . | $$ | . O . . . . . . X . . . O O O X X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . X X . . X O X X . | $$ | . X . O . . . X . O O O O O O O O X . | $$ | O . . . . . O . . . . X X X O . . . . | $$ | . O X . . . . . . O X . . X O X X . . | $$ | O . O . . . . O . . X X X O . O X . . | $$ | X O O . . . . . X X X O X O O O O X . | $$ | . X O O . O . . X O O O O X O O X X . | $$ | X . X O . X O O X , O X O X O X X X O | $$ | O O X O . . O X X X X X X X O X O O . | $$ | O X X O X O . O X . O . X O O O O X . | $$ | . X O . . . . . . . . X . X . . . X . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
I hate to say it, but this is the best I see myself getting.
Re: 66. Shaddy(1d) vs. Chew Terr(5k)
Posted: Fri Sep 03, 2010 8:09 am
by topazg
Isn't White about 20 points ahead now? Am I missing something ?
Re: 66. Shaddy(1d) vs. Chew Terr(5k)
Posted: Fri Sep 03, 2010 8:13 am
by Kirby
I'd keep trying as black on this board.
Re: 66. Shaddy(1d) vs. Chew Terr(5k)
Posted: Fri Sep 03, 2010 8:16 am
by Chew Terr
topazg wrote:Isn't White about 20 points ahead now? Am I missing something ?
Yeah, that's what I was afraid of. I wanted to finish this fight, then count, since I couldn't tell for sure what I would get out of the fight. Afterwards, I was going to count and decide whether or not to resign. Since it seems like I won't be able to connect west, I'll give a specific count later today, but first I really need to get some work done.
Re: 66. Shaddy(1d) vs. Chew Terr(5k)
Posted: Fri Sep 03, 2010 8:56 am
by Chew Terr
$$Bc Captures: B+1 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . X O O . . O O X . s i x t y . . . | $$ | . , X X O O . O X . . f o u r . . . . | $$ | t e n X O X . O X X . X . . . X . . . | $$ | . . . X O X . . O X O . . . . X . . . | $$ | X X X O X O X . O B . O . . . . . . . | $$ | B O X O O O X . O X X X . . . . . . . | $$ | O X O O . X . . O O O O X X X O . . . | $$ | . O o n e . . . X . . . O O O X X . . | $$ | . . h u n d r e d . X X . . X O X X . | $$ | . X t w e l v e . O O O O O O O O X . | $$ | O . . . . . O . . O X X X X O O O X . | $$ | . O X . . . . . O O X r . X O X X . . | $$ | O . O . . . O O X . X X X O j O X X X | $$ | X O O . . . O X X X X O X O O O O X O | $$ | . X O O . O X X X O O O O X O O X X O | $$ | X . X O . X O O X q O X O X O X X X O | $$ | O O X O . . O X X X X X X X O X O O O | $$ | O X X O X O O O X s i x X O O O O X j | $$ | . X O . . O X X X . . X X X X O . X . | $$ ---------------------------------------
[go]$$Bc Captures: B+1 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . X O O . . O O X . s i x t y . . . | $$ | . , X X O O . O X . . f o u r . . . . | $$ | t e n X O X . O X X . X . . . X . . . | $$ | . . . X O X . . O X O . . . . X . . . | $$ | X X X O X O X . O B . O . . . . . . . | $$ | B O X O O O X . O X X X . . . . . . . | $$ | O X O O . X . . O O O O X X X O . . . | $$ | . O o n e . . . X . . . O O O X X . . | $$ | . . h u n d r e d . X X . . X O X X . | $$ | . X t w e l v e . O O O O O O O O X . | $$ | O . . . . . O . . O X X X X O O O X . | $$ | . O X . . . . . O O X r . X O X X . . | $$ | O . O . . . O O X . X X X O j O X X X | $$ | X O O . . . O X X X X O X O O O O X O | $$ | . X O O . O X X X O O O O X O O X X O | $$ | X . X O . X O O X q O X O X O X X X O | $$ | O O X O . . O X X X X X X X O X O O O | $$ | O X X O X O O O X s i x X O O O O X j | $$ | . X O . . O X X X . . X X X X O . X . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
q=15 points r=2
j=8
B: 10+64+15+2+6=97 W: 120
Topazg, you're right, white's beating me by 20, by my best estimation. Kirby, do you have any suggestions for anywhere I could try to dig some additional points? I figure my opponent won't let me connect anything, and trying to live inside would be ridiculous.
Re: 66. Shaddy(1d) vs. Chew Terr(5k)
Posted: Fri Sep 03, 2010 9:10 am
by Kirby
I think white is ahead, but you don't know how your opponent will react to what you are doing right now (eg. will he give up those stones).
The middle area seems kind of thin, so I wonder if there's something around there.
Black is probably not in good shape to win, but I would at least finish what you are doing before resigning. Maybe I just don't resign as soon as some people do.
There's also the fact that this is supposed to be a game for learning. So I guess you can decide if you are still learning stuff.
Re: 66. Shaddy(1d) vs. Chew Terr(5k)
Posted: Fri Sep 03, 2010 10:08 am
by topazg
I know what I'd try that would be worth ~7 or 8 points, that keeps things close enough for me
Re: 66. Shaddy(1d) vs. Chew Terr(5k)
Posted: Fri Sep 03, 2010 10:13 am
by Chew Terr
And I did forget reverse komi. I don't think it's possible to come back, but I'd like to play a bit longer for endgame practice, if that's okay with you, Shaddy? After the game, I'll probably try to make an SGF like I did with Fwiffo.
Re: 66. Shaddy(1d) vs. Chew Terr(5k)
Posted: Fri Sep 03, 2010 10:16 am
by Kirby
As a sidenote, I have to say that I love Shaddy's avatar. It cracks me up every time I see it. I almost want to steal it, but that wouldn't be cool...
