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Re: Mafia Go #1: Discussing Move 4
Posted: Wed May 19, 2010 9:41 am
by Kirby
F4 ftw.
Re: Mafia Go #1: Discussing Move 4
Posted: Wed May 19, 2010 9:49 am
by prokofiev
Now the game starts, eh?
I suppose the dan players can figure out which of F4 and G5 is better and then choose that one if they're white and the other if they're black. Then it's up to the rest of us to actually figure out which is better, so we know which team the dan players are on. Or maybe I've spoiled it by saying this?

Edit: I guess I'll play F4 too, so as not to look like I have any original thoughts.
An amusing thought: Various ladders are and have been threatened. I wonder what would happen if one were played out? Would everyone reveal themselves and try to make the other side tenuki before it's too late?
Re: Mafia Go #1: Discussing Move 4
Posted: Wed May 19, 2010 11:05 am
by topazg
G5
Re: Mafia Go #1: Discussing Move 4
Posted: Wed May 19, 2010 8:29 pm
by MountainGo
All the ataris seem bad here, since White isn't eager to sacrifice either stone. F4 seems like the best move, since it prepares to capture

in a ladder. (@Phelan:
and so that is what I am voting for.

)
Re: Mafia Go #1: Discussing Move 4
Posted: Wed May 19, 2010 8:57 pm
by Joaz Banbeck
prokofiev wrote:
An amusing thought: Various ladders are and have been threatened. I wonder what would happen if one were played out? Would everyone reveal themselves and try to make the other side tenuki before it's too late?
Yes. That's a particular instance of what I have been saying about the game not being stable. On a board this size, a losing ladder is probably a losing game. So it will crystalize affiliation.
I vote for G5.
EDIT: We may not have to wait for a ladder to compel everyone to come out of their closets. The first vote on ejecting someone should do that. ( I'm assuming 5 vs 5. ) If either team can get all of their members voting together, and the other team does not, then they can reduce the other team by one vote. At that point they have an iron lock on the game: they can force every one of their moves to be a good one, they can force every move by their opponents to be a bad one. And as the next vote comes along, they can decimate the other team. The opposing team has no chance whatsoever.
Re: Mafia Go #1: Discussing Move 4
Posted: Thu May 20, 2010 4:05 am
by Phelan
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a (F4): daniel_the_smith, fwiffo, Marcus, Chew Terr, Kirby, prokofiev, MountainGo: (7 votes)
b (D5): Jordus,
c (G5): topazg, Joaz Banbeck,
Not voting:
Re: Mafia Go #1: Discussing Move 4
Posted: Fri May 21, 2010 3:15 am
by Phelan
12 hours left. Also updated first post.
Re: Mafia Go #1: Discussing Move 6
Posted: Fri May 21, 2010 9:31 am
by Kirby
I'm surprised there's no votes for pass, yet.
Re: Mafia Go #1: Discussing Move 6
Posted: Fri May 21, 2010 7:08 pm
by Phelan
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a (F4): daniel_the_smith, fwiffo, Marcus, Chew Terr, Kirby, prokofiev, MountainGo: (7 votes)
b (D5): Jordus,
c (G5): topazg, Joaz Banbeck,
Not voting:
$$Bc Move 6
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[go]$$Bc Move 6
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What now?
Next move will be the most voted
in two days, or the first to reach more than 75% of votes(With 10, that's 8 votes).
Re: Mafia Go #1: Discussing Move 7
Posted: Fri May 21, 2010 7:39 pm
by Marcus
I vote for E4.
Re: Mafia Go #1: Discussing Move 7
Posted: Fri May 21, 2010 8:13 pm
by Kirby
I vote for E7.
Re: Mafia Go #1: Discussing Move 7
Posted: Fri May 21, 2010 8:42 pm
by Joaz Banbeck
I vote for pass. Who is with me?
Re: Mafia Go #1: Discussing Move 7
Posted: Fri May 21, 2010 8:49 pm
by MountainGo
D5
Re: Mafia Go #1: Discussing Move 7
Posted: Fri May 21, 2010 9:17 pm
by Kirby
Joaz Banbeck wrote:I vote for pass. Who is with me?
Pass was my second choice...
Re: Mafia Go #1: Discussing Move 7
Posted: Fri May 21, 2010 9:21 pm
by fwiffo
D5