$$Wcm151 Prisoners: $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . X . . . X X O O . O O X . . | $$ | . . . X O X O . X O X X . O O X . . . | $$ | . X O X X O X X . O . X O X O X . . . | $$ | . X O X . O . . . O . . X X X X X . . | $$ | . X X O X O . X . . . . . . . O . O . | $$ | . O O O O . . O O . O . . . O O . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . X X X . O . O 0 O . | $$ | . . . . . . . . O . . . . . O X X X . | $$ | . . . , . . . X . , O O . . 3 4 . 7 . | $$ | . . . . O . O X . O . . . 5 2 C X . . | $$ | . . . . . . O O X X X X . . O X X 6 . | $$ | . . O O . . X . X . O . . . O . X O . | $$ | . . X O . O X . . . . . X . . . X O 8 | $$ | . . X . . . X O X . O O O O O O O C 9 | $$ | . . . X X X . . . X X X X X X O . 1 X | $$ | . . O X O . . O . . . . . X O X O O . | $$ | . O . O . O . . . . . . X O O X X X . | $$ | . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------
[go]$$Wcm151 Prisoners: $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . X . . . X X O O . O O X . . | $$ | . . . X O X O . X O X X . O O X . . . | $$ | . X O X X O X X . O . X O X O X . . . | $$ | . X O X . O . . . O . . X X X X X . . | $$ | . X X O X O . X . . . . . . . O . O . | $$ | . O O O O . . O O . O . . . O O . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . X X X . O . O 0 O . | $$ | . . . . . . . . O . . . . . O X X X . | $$ | . . . , . . . X . , O O . . 3 4 . 7 . | $$ | . . . . O . O X . O . . . 5 2 C X . . | $$ | . . . . . . O O X X X X . . O X X 6 . | $$ | . . O O . . X . X . O . . . O . X O . | $$ | . . X O . O X . . . . . X . . . X O 8 | $$ | . . X . . . X O X . O O O O O O O C 9 | $$ | . . . X X X . . . X X X X X X O . 1 X | $$ | . . O X O . . O . . . . . X O X O O . | $$ | . O . O . O . . . . . . X O O X X X . | $$ | . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
I have them on the board here - 3 white stones and 5 black stones ... we can always check at the end if it's really close
Re: #190 - topazg vs magicwand
Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2012 7:32 pm
by Magicwand
$$Wcm161 Prisoners: $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . X . . . X X O O . O O X . . | $$ | . . . X O X O . X O X X . O O X . . . | $$ | . X O X X O X X . O . X O X O X . . . | $$ | . X O X . O . . . O . . X X X X X . . | $$ | . X X O X O . X . . . . . . . O . O . | $$ | . O O O O . . O O . O . . . O O . 1 . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . X X X . O . O X O . | $$ | . . . . . . . . O . . . . . O X X X . | $$ | . . . , . . . X . , O O . . O X . O . | $$ | . . . . O . O X . O . . . O X . X . . | $$ | . . . . . . O O X X X X . . O X X X . | $$ | . . O O . . X . X . O . . . O . X O . | $$ | . . X O . O X . . . . . X . . . X O X | $$ | . . X . . . X O X . O O O O O O O C O | $$ | . . . X X X . . . X X X X X X O . O X | $$ | . . O X O . . O . . . . . X O X O O . | $$ | . O . O . O . . . . . . X O O X X X . | $$ | . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------
[go]$$Wcm161 Prisoners: $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . X . . . X X O O . O O X . . | $$ | . . . X O X O . X O X X . O O X . . . | $$ | . X O X X O X X . O . X O X O X . . . | $$ | . X O X . O . . . O . . X X X X X . . | $$ | . X X O X O . X . . . . . . . O . O . | $$ | . O O O O . . O O . O . . . O O . 1 . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . X X X . O . O X O . | $$ | . . . . . . . . O . . . . . O X X X . | $$ | . . . , . . . X . , O O . . O X . O . | $$ | . . . . O . O X . O . . . O X . X . . | $$ | . . . . . . O O X X X X . . O X X X . | $$ | . . O O . . X . X . O . . . O . X O . | $$ | . . X O . O X . . . . . X . . . X O X | $$ | . . X . . . X O X . O O O O O O O C O | $$ | . . . X X X . . . X X X X X X O . O X | $$ | . . O X O . . O . . . . . X O X O O . | $$ | . O . O . O . . . . . . X O O X X X . | $$ | . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
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$$Wcm161 Prisoners: $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . X . . . X X O O . O O X . . | $$ | . . . X O X O . X O X X . O O X . . . | $$ | . X O X X O X X . O . X O X O X . . . | $$ | . X O X . O . . . O . . X X X X X . . | $$ | . X X O X O . X . . . . . . . O . O . | $$ | . O O O O . . O O . O . . . O O . 1 . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . X X X . O . O X O . | $$ | . . . . . . . . O . . . . . O X X X . | $$ | . . . , . . . X . , O O . . O X . O . | $$ | . . . . O . O X . O . . . O X . X . . | $$ | . . . . . . O O X X X X . . O X X X . | $$ | . . O O . . X . X . O . . . O . X O . | $$ | . . X O . O X 3 . . . . X . . . X O X | $$ | . . X . . . X O X . O O O O O O O 2 C | $$ | . . . X X X . . . X X X X X X O . O X | $$ | . . O X O . . O . . . . . X O X O O . | $$ | . O . O . O . . . . . . X O O X X X . | $$ | . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------
[go]$$Wcm161 Prisoners: $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . X . . . X X O O . O O X . . | $$ | . . . X O X O . X O X X . O O X . . . | $$ | . X O X X O X X . O . X O X O X . . . | $$ | . X O X . O . . . O . . X X X X X . . | $$ | . X X O X O . X . . . . . . . O . O . | $$ | . O O O O . . O O . O . . . O O . 1 . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . X X X . O . O X O . | $$ | . . . . . . . . O . . . . . O X X X . | $$ | . . . , . . . X . , O O . . O X . O . | $$ | . . . . O . O X . O . . . O X . X . . | $$ | . . . . . . O O X X X X . . O X X X . | $$ | . . O O . . X . X . O . . . O . X O . | $$ | . . X O . O X 3 . . . . X . . . X O X | $$ | . . X . . . X O X . O O O O O O O 2 C | $$ | . . . X X X . . . X X X X X X O . O X | $$ | . . O X O . . O . . . . . X O X O O . | $$ | . O . O . O . . . . . . X O O X X X . | $$ | . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
Re: #190 - topazg vs magicwand
Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2012 9:19 pm
by tj86430
The Intrepid wrote:@tj86430
tj86430 wrote:Can someone explain this move to me? Isn't he letting the L5 group connect to freedom for no reason, or am I (as usual) missing something?
topazg addressed this issue briefly in post #164. The L5 group either connects to the stones on the right or to the stones on the bottom left. The problem is shortage of liberties of the O4 Black group.
$$Wc $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . X . . . X X O O . O O X . . | $$ | . . . X O X O . X O X X . O O X . . . | $$ | . X O X X O X X . O . X O X O X . . . | $$ | . X O X . O . . . O . . X X X X X . . | $$ | . X X O X O . X . . . . . . . O . O . | $$ | . O O O O . . O O . O . . . O O . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . X X X . O . O . O . | $$ | . . . . . . . . O . . . . . O X X X . | $$ | . . . , . . . X . , O O . . . , . . . | $$ | . . . . O . O X . O . . . . . O X . . | $$ | . . . . . . O O X X X X . . O X X . . | $$ | . . O O . . X . X . O . 4 . O . . O . | $$ | . . X O . O X . . . . . X 3 . . . O . | $$ | . . X . . . X O X . O O 1 2 O O . X . | $$ | . . . X X X . . . X 5 X X X X O . . X | $$ | . . O X O . . O . . 6 7 . X O X O O . | $$ | . O . O . O . . . . . . X O O X X X . | $$ | . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------
[go]$$Wc $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . X . . . X X O O . O O X . . | $$ | . . . X O X O . X O X X . O O X . . . | $$ | . X O X X O X X . O . X O X O X . . . | $$ | . X O X . O . . . O . . X X X X X . . | $$ | . X X O X O . X . . . . . . . O . O . | $$ | . O O O O . . O O . O . . . O O . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . X X X . O . O . O . | $$ | . . . . . . . . O . . . . . O X X X . | $$ | . . . , . . . X . , O O . . . , . . . | $$ | . . . . O . O X . O . . . . . O X . . | $$ | . . . . . . O O X X X X . . O X X . . | $$ | . . O O . . X . X . O . 4 . O . . O . | $$ | . . X O . O X . . . . . X 3 . . . O . | $$ | . . X . . . X O X . O O 1 2 O O . X . | $$ | . . . X X X . . . X 5 X X X X O . . X | $$ | . . O X O . . O . . 6 7 . X O X O O . | $$ | . O . O . O . . . . . . X O O X X X . | $$ | . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
thanks, I had missed that (both the post and reading the sequence)
Re: #190 - topazg vs magicwand
Posted: Fri Dec 21, 2012 10:17 am
by topazg
$$Wcm161 Prisoners: $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . X . . . X X O O . O O X . . | $$ | . . . X O X O . X O X X . O O X . . . | $$ | . X O X X O X X . O . X O X O X . . . | $$ | . X O X . O . . . O . . X X X X X . . | $$ | . X X O X O . X . . . . . . . O 6 O . | $$ | . O O O O . . O O . O . . . O O 7 1 . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . X X X . O . O X O . | $$ | . . . . . . . . O . . . . . O X X X . | $$ | . . . , . . . X . , O O . . O X . O . | $$ | . . . . O . O X . O . . . O X . X . . | $$ | . . . . . . O O X X X X . . O X X X . | $$ | . . O O . . X . X . O . . . O . X O . | $$ | . . X O . O X 3 . . . . X . . . X O X | $$ | . . X . . . X O X . O O O O O O O 8 C | $$ | . . . X X X . 4 . X X X X X X O . O X | $$ | . . O X O . . O . . . . . X O X O O . | $$ | . O . O . O . . . . . . X O O X X X . | $$ | . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------
[go]$$Wcm161 Prisoners: $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . X . . . X X O O . O O X . . | $$ | . . . X O X O . X O X X . O O X . . . | $$ | . X O X X O X X . O . X O X O X . . . | $$ | . X O X . O . . . O . . X X X X X . . | $$ | . X X O X O . X . . . . . . . O 6 O . | $$ | . O O O O . . O O . O . . . O O 7 1 . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . X X X . O . O X O . | $$ | . . . . . . . . O . . . . . O X X X . | $$ | . . . , . . . X . , O O . . O X . O . | $$ | . . . . O . O X . O . . . O X . X . . | $$ | . . . . . . O O X X X X . . O X X X . | $$ | . . O O . . X . X . O . . . O . X O . | $$ | . . X O . O X 3 . . . . X . . . X O X | $$ | . . X . . . X O X . O O O O O O O 8 C | $$ | . . . X X X . 4 . X X X X X X O . O X | $$ | . . O X O . . O . . . . . X O X O O . | $$ | . O . O . O . . . . . . X O O X X X . | $$ | . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
@ takes ko
Re: #190 - topazg vs magicwand
Posted: Fri Dec 21, 2012 10:37 am
by Magicwand
$$Wcm161 Prisoners: $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . X . . . X X O O . O O X . . | $$ | . . . X O X O . X O X X . O O X . . . | $$ | . X O X X O X X . O . X O X O X . . . | $$ | . X O X . O . . . O . . X X X X X . . | $$ | . X X O X O . X . . . . . . . O 6 O . | $$ | . O O O O . . O O . O . . . O O 7 1 . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . X X X . O . O X O . | $$ | . . . . . . . . O . . . . . O X X X . | $$ | . . . , . . . X . , O O . . O X . O . | $$ | . . . . O . O X . O . . . O X . X . . | $$ | . . . . . . O O X X X X . . O X X X . | $$ | . . O O . . X 9 X . O . . . O . X O . | $$ | . . X O . O X 3 . . . . X . . . X O X | $$ | . . X . . . X O X . O O O O O O O 8 C | $$ | . . . X X X . 4 . X X X X X X O . O X | $$ | . . O X O . . O . . . . . X O X O O . | $$ | . O . O . O . . . . . . X O O X X X . | $$ | . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------
[go]$$Wcm161 Prisoners: $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . X . . . X X O O . O O X . . | $$ | . . . X O X O . X O X X . O O X . . . | $$ | . X O X X O X X . O . X O X O X . . . | $$ | . X O X . O . . . O . . X X X X X . . | $$ | . X X O X O . X . . . . . . . O 6 O . | $$ | . O O O O . . O O . O . . . O O 7 1 . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . X X X . O . O X O . | $$ | . . . . . . . . O . . . . . O X X X . | $$ | . . . , . . . X . , O O . . O X . O . | $$ | . . . . O . O X . O . . . O X . X . . | $$ | . . . . . . O O X X X X . . O X X X . | $$ | . . O O . . X 9 X . O . . . O . X O . | $$ | . . X O . O X 3 . . . . X . . . X O X | $$ | . . X . . . X O X . O O O O O O O 8 C | $$ | . . . X X X . 4 . X X X X X X O . O X | $$ | . . O X O . . O . . . . . X O X O O . | $$ | . O . O . O . . . . . . X O O X X X . | $$ | . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
he played into my plan... now a and b are free ko threat that will give me points for free. with that free points guarante all i need is small ko threats on upper left and right corner. i think the cat is almost in the bag.
$$Wcm161 Prisoners: $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . X . . . X X O O . O O X . . | $$ | . . . X O X O . X O X X . O O X . . . | $$ | . X O X X O X X . O . X O X O X . . . | $$ | . X O X . O . . . O . . X X X X X . . | $$ | . X X O X O . X . . . . . . . O 6 O . | $$ | . O O O O . . O O . O . . . O O 7 1 . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . X X X . O . O X O . | $$ | . . . . . . . . O . . . . . O X X X . | $$ | . . . , . . . X . , O O . . O X . O . | $$ | . . . . O . O X . O . . . O X . X . . | $$ | . . . . . . O O X X X X . . O X X X . | $$ | . . O O . . X 9 X . O . . . O . X O . | $$ | . . X O . O X 3 . . . . X . . . X O X | $$ | . . X . . . X O X . O O O O O O O 8 C | $$ | . . . X X X . 4 . X X X X X X O . O X | $$ | . . O X O . a O b . . . . X O X O O . | $$ | . O . O . O . . . . . . X O O X X X . | $$ | . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------
[go]$$Wcm161 Prisoners: $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . X . . . X X O O . O O X . . | $$ | . . . X O X O . X O X X . O O X . . . | $$ | . X O X X O X X . O . X O X O X . . . | $$ | . X O X . O . . . O . . X X X X X . . | $$ | . X X O X O . X . . . . . . . O 6 O . | $$ | . O O O O . . O O . O . . . O O 7 1 . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . X X X . O . O X O . | $$ | . . . . . . . . O . . . . . O X X X . | $$ | . . . , . . . X . , O O . . O X . O . | $$ | . . . . O . O X . O . . . O X . X . . | $$ | . . . . . . O O X X X X . . O X X X . | $$ | . . O O . . X 9 X . O . . . O . X O . | $$ | . . X O . O X 3 . . . . X . . . X O X | $$ | . . X . . . X O X . O O O O O O O 8 C | $$ | . . . X X X . 4 . X X X X X X O . O X | $$ | . . O X O . a O b . . . . X O X O O . | $$ | . O . O . O . . . . . . X O O X X X . | $$ | . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
Re: #190 - topazg vs magicwand
Posted: Fri Dec 21, 2012 11:07 am
by topazg
$$Wcm161 Prisoners: $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . X . . . X X O O . O O X . . | $$ | . . . X O X O . X O X X . O O X . . . | $$ | . X O X X O X X . O . X O X O X . . . | $$ | . X O X . O . . . O . . X X X X X . . | $$ | . X X O X O . X . . . . . . . O 6 O . | $$ | . O O O O . . O O . O . . . O O 7 1 . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . X X X . O . O X O . | $$ | . . . . . . . . O . . . . . O X X X . | $$ | . . . , . . . X . , O O . . O X . O . | $$ | . . . . O . O X . O . . . O X . X . . | $$ | . . . . . . O O X X X X . . O X X X . | $$ | . . O O . . X 9 X . O . . . O . X C 0 | $$ | . . X O . O X 3 . . . . X . . . X C X | $$ | . . X . . . X O X . O O O O O O O 8 . | $$ | . . . X X X . 4 . X X X X X X O . O X | $$ | . . O X O . . O . . . . . X O X O O . | $$ | . O . O . O . . . . . . X O O X X X . | $$ | . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------
[go]$$Wcm161 Prisoners: $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . X . . . X X O O . O O X . . | $$ | . . . X O X O . X O X X . O O X . . . | $$ | . X O X X O X X . O . X O X O X . . . | $$ | . X O X . O . . . O . . X X X X X . . | $$ | . X X O X O . X . . . . . . . O 6 O . | $$ | . O O O O . . O O . O . . . O O 7 1 . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . X X X . O . O X O . | $$ | . . . . . . . . O . . . . . O X X X . | $$ | . . . , . . . X . , O O . . O X . O . | $$ | . . . . O . O X . O . . . O X . X . . | $$ | . . . . . . O O X X X X . . O X X X . | $$ | . . O O . . X 9 X . O . . . O . X C 0 | $$ | . . X O . O X 3 . . . . X . . . X C X | $$ | . . X . . . X O X . O O O O O O O 8 . | $$ | . . . X X X . 4 . X X X X X X O . O X | $$ | . . O X O . . O . . . . . X O X O O . | $$ | . O . O . O . . . . . . X O O X X X . | $$ | . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
Sorry magicwand, that's just not big enough.
15 - 20 points ahead now.
Re: #190 - topazg vs magicwand
Posted: Fri Dec 21, 2012 11:16 am
by Magicwand
$$Wcm171 Prisoners: $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . X . . . X X O O . O O X . . | $$ | . . . X O X O . X O X X . O O X . . . | $$ | . X O X X O X X . O . X O X O X . . . | $$ | . X O X . O . . . O . . X X X X X . . | $$ | . X X O X O . X . . . . . . . O X O . | $$ | . O O O O . . O O . O . . . O O O O . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . X X X . O . O X O . | $$ | . . . . . . . . O . . . . . O X X X . | $$ | . . . , . . . X . , O O . . O X . O . | $$ | . . . . O . O X . O . . . O X . X . . | $$ | . . . . . . O O X X X X . . O X X X . | $$ | . . O O . . X O X . O . . . O . X . X | $$ | . . X O . O X O . . . . X . . . X . X | $$ | . . X . . . X O X . O O O O O O O X . | $$ | . . . X X X . X . X X X X X X O . O X | $$ | . . O X O . 1 O . . . . . X O X O O . | $$ | . O . O . O . . . . . . X O O X X X . | $$ | . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------
[go]$$Wcm171 Prisoners: $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . X . . . X X O O . O O X . . | $$ | . . . X O X O . X O X X . O O X . . . | $$ | . X O X X O X X . O . X O X O X . . . | $$ | . X O X . O . . . O . . X X X X X . . | $$ | . X X O X O . X . . . . . . . O X O . | $$ | . O O O O . . O O . O . . . O O O O . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . X X X . O . O X O . | $$ | . . . . . . . . O . . . . . O X X X . | $$ | . . . , . . . X . , O O . . O X . O . | $$ | . . . . O . O X . O . . . O X . X . . | $$ | . . . . . . O O X X X X . . O X X X . | $$ | . . O O . . X O X . O . . . O . X . X | $$ | . . X O . O X O . . . . X . . . X . X | $$ | . . X . . . X O X . O O O O O O O X . | $$ | . . . X X X . X . X X X X X X O . O X | $$ | . . O X O . 1 O . . . . . X O X O O . | $$ | . O . O . O . . . . . . X O O X X X . | $$ | . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
I dont think he is counting... he can not win giving up that group...or am i missing something?
Re: #190 - topazg vs magicwand
Posted: Fri Dec 21, 2012 11:29 am
by topazg
$$Wcm171 Prisoners: $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . X . . . X X O O . O O X . . | $$ | . . . X O X O . X O X X . O O X . . . | $$ | . X O X X O X X . O . X O X O X . . . | $$ | . X O X . O . . . O . . X X X X X . . | $$ | . X X O X O . X . . . . . . . O X O . | $$ | . O O O O . . O O . O . . . O O O O . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . X X X . O . O X O . | $$ | . . . . . . . . O . . . . . O X X X . | $$ | . . . , . . . X . , O O . . O X . O . | $$ | . . . . O . O X . O . . . O X . X . . | $$ | . . . . . . O O X X X X . . O X X X . | $$ | . . O O . . X O X . O . . . O . X . X | $$ | . . X O . O X O . . . . X . . . X . X | $$ | . . X . . . X O X . O O O O O O O X . | $$ | . . . X X X 2 X . X X X X X X O . O X | $$ | . . O X O . 1 O . . . . . X O X O O . | $$ | . O . O . O . . . . . . X O O X X X . | $$ | . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------
[go]$$Wcm171 Prisoners: $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . X . . . X X O O . O O X . . | $$ | . . . X O X O . X O X X . O O X . . . | $$ | . X O X X O X X . O . X O X O X . . . | $$ | . X O X . O . . . O . . X X X X X . . | $$ | . X X O X O . X . . . . . . . O X O . | $$ | . O O O O . . O O . O . . . O O O O . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . X X X . O . O X O . | $$ | . . . . . . . . O . . . . . O X X X . | $$ | . . . , . . . X . , O O . . O X . O . | $$ | . . . . O . O X . O . . . O X . X . . | $$ | . . . . . . O O X X X X . . O X X X . | $$ | . . O O . . X O X . O . . . O . X . X | $$ | . . X O . O X O . . . . X . . . X . X | $$ | . . X . . . X O X . O O O O O O O X . | $$ | . . . X X X 2 X . X X X X X X O . O X | $$ | . . O X O . 1 O . . . . . X O X O O . | $$ | . O . O . O . . . . . . X O O X X X . | $$ | . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
Actually, make it just over 10. Either way, I'll be very disappointed to lose that much in yose.
Re: #190 - topazg vs magicwand
Posted: Fri Dec 21, 2012 11:35 am
by Magicwand
$$Wcm171 Prisoners: $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . X . . . X X O O . O O X . . | $$ | . . . X O X O . X O X X . O O X . . . | $$ | . X O X X O X X . O . X O X O X . . . | $$ | . X O X . O . . . O . . X X X X X . . | $$ | . X X O X O . X . . . . . . . O X O . | $$ | . O O O O . . O O . O . . . O O O O . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . X X X . O . O X O . | $$ | . . . . . . . . O . . . . . O X X X . | $$ | . . . , . . . X . , O O . . O X . O . | $$ | . . . . O . O X . O . . . O X . X . . | $$ | . . . . . . O O X X X X . . O X X X . | $$ | . . O O . . X O X . O . . . O . X . X | $$ | . . X O . O X O 5 . . . X . . . X . X | $$ | . . X . . . X O X . O O O O O O O X . | $$ | . . . X X X 2 X 4 X X X X X X O . O X | $$ | . . O X O . 1 O 3 . . . . X O X O O . | $$ | . O . O . O . . . . . . X O O X X X . | $$ | . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------
[go]$$Wcm171 Prisoners: $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . X . . . X X O O . O O X . . | $$ | . . . X O X O . X O X X . O O X . . . | $$ | . X O X X O X X . O . X O X O X . . . | $$ | . X O X . O . . . O . . X X X X X . . | $$ | . X X O X O . X . . . . . . . O X O . | $$ | . O O O O . . O O . O . . . O O O O . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . X X X . O . O X O . | $$ | . . . . . . . . O . . . . . O X X X . | $$ | . . . , . . . X . , O O . . O X . O . | $$ | . . . . O . O X . O . . . O X . X . . | $$ | . . . . . . O O X X X X . . O X X X . | $$ | . . O O . . X O X . O . . . O . X . X | $$ | . . X O . O X O 5 . . . X . . . X . X | $$ | . . X . . . X O X . O O O O O O O X . | $$ | . . . X X X 2 X 4 X X X X X X O . O X | $$ | . . O X O . 1 O 3 . . . . X O X O O . | $$ | . O . O . O . . . . . . X O O X X X . | $$ | . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
Re: #190 - topazg vs magicwand
Posted: Fri Dec 21, 2012 11:42 am
by topazg
$$Wcm171 Prisoners: $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . X . . . X X O O . O O X . . | $$ | . . . X O X O . X O X X . O O X . . . | $$ | . X O X X O X X . O . X O X O X . . . | $$ | . X O X . O . . . O . . X X X X X . . | $$ | . X X O X O . X . . . . . . . O X O . | $$ | . O O O O . . O O 6 O . . . O O O O . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . X X X . O . O X O . | $$ | . . . . . . . . O . . . . . O X X X . | $$ | . . . , . . . X . , O O . . O X . O . | $$ | . . . . O . O X . O . . . O X . X . . | $$ | . . . . . . O O X X X X . . O X X X . | $$ | . . O O . . X O X . O . . . O . X . X | $$ | . . X O . O X O 5 . . . X . . . X . X | $$ | . . X . . . X O X . O O O O O O O X . | $$ | . . . X X X 2 X 4 X X X X X X O . O X | $$ | . . O X O . 1 O 3 . . . . X O X O O . | $$ | . O . O . O . . . . . . X O O X X X . | $$ | . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------
[go]$$Wcm171 Prisoners: $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . X . . . X X O O . O O X . . | $$ | . . . X O X O . X O X X . O O X . . . | $$ | . X O X X O X X . O . X O X O X . . . | $$ | . X O X . O . . . O . . X X X X X . . | $$ | . X X O X O . X . . . . . . . O X O . | $$ | . O O O O . . O O 6 O . . . O O O O . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . X X X . O . O X O . | $$ | . . . . . . . . O . . . . . O X X X . | $$ | . . . , . . . X . , O O . . O X . O . | $$ | . . . . O . O X . O . . . O X . X . . | $$ | . . . . . . O O X X X X . . O X X X . | $$ | . . O O . . X O X . O . . . O . X . X | $$ | . . X O . O X O 5 . . . X . . . X . X | $$ | . . X . . . X O X . O O O O O O O X . | $$ | . . . X X X 2 X 4 X X X X X X O . O X | $$ | . . O X O . 1 O 3 . . . . X O X O O . | $$ | . O . O . O . . . . . . X O O X X X . | $$ | . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
Whoops, I miscounted. It's a lot closer than I thought. Maybe I should have responded to that ko threat. I'm still ahead, but it's within a few points. His yose is better than mine, so this could get .. interesting.
Re: #190 - topazg vs magicwand
Posted: Fri Dec 21, 2012 11:53 am
by Magicwand
$$Wcm171 Prisoners: $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . X . . . X X O O . O O X . . | $$ | . . . X O X O . X O X X . O O X . . . | $$ | . X O X X O X X . O . X O X O X . . . | $$ | . X O X . O . 7 . O . . X X X X X . . | $$ | . X X O X O . X . . . . . . . O X O . | $$ | . O O O O . . O O 6 O . . . O O O O . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . X X X . O . O X O . | $$ | . . . . . . . . O . . . . . O X X X . | $$ | . . . , . . . X . , O O . . O X . O . | $$ | . . . . O . O X . O . . . O X . X . . | $$ | . . . . . . O O X X X X . . O X X X . | $$ | . . O O . . X O X . O . . . O . X . X | $$ | . . X O . O X O 5 . . . X . . . X . X | $$ | . . X . . . X O X . O O O O O O O X . | $$ | . . . X X X 2 X 4 X X X X X X O . O X | $$ | . . O X O . 1 O 3 . . . . X O X O O . | $$ | . O . O . O . . . . . . X O O X X X . | $$ | . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------
[go]$$Wcm171 Prisoners: $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . X . . . X X O O . O O X . . | $$ | . . . X O X O . X O X X . O O X . . . | $$ | . X O X X O X X . O . X O X O X . . . | $$ | . X O X . O . 7 . O . . X X X X X . . | $$ | . X X O X O . X . . . . . . . O X O . | $$ | . O O O O . . O O 6 O . . . O O O O . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . X X X . O . O X O . | $$ | . . . . . . . . O . . . . . O X X X . | $$ | . . . , . . . X . , O O . . O X . O . | $$ | . . . . O . O X . O . . . O X . X . . | $$ | . . . . . . O O X X X X . . O X X X . | $$ | . . O O . . X O X . O . . . O . X . X | $$ | . . X O . O X O 5 . . . X . . . X . X | $$ | . . X . . . X O X . O O O O O O O X . | $$ | . . . X X X 2 X 4 X X X X X X O . O X | $$ | . . O X O . 1 O 3 . . . . X O X O O . | $$ | . O . O . O . . . . . . X O O X X X . | $$ | . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
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I have counted and concluded that i can not lose this game. it is very close but i think i am ahead about 5 points... assuming that my end game is stronger...and there are't any complication...i should win about 10 points but i will let him have everything long as i win by 1 points..
Re: #190 - topazg vs magicwand
Posted: Fri Dec 21, 2012 3:00 pm
by topazg
$$Wcm171 Prisoners: $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . X . . . X X O O . O O X . . | $$ | . . . X O X O . X O X X . O O X . . . | $$ | . X O X X O X X . O . X O X O X . . . | $$ | . X O X . O 8 7 . O . . X X X X X . . | $$ | . X X O X O . X . . . . . . . O X O . | $$ | . O O O O . . O O 6 O . . . O O O O . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . X X X . O . O X O . | $$ | . . . . . . . . O . . . . . O X X X . | $$ | . . . , . . . X . , O O . . O X . O . | $$ | . . . . O . O X . O . . . O X . X . . | $$ | . . . . . . O O X X X X . . O X X X . | $$ | . . O O . . X O X . O . . . O . X . X | $$ | . . X O . O X O 5 . . . X . . . X . X | $$ | . . X . . . X O X . O O O O O O O X . | $$ | . . . X X X 2 X 4 X X X X X X O . O X | $$ | . . O X O . 1 O 3 . . . . X O X O O . | $$ | . O . O . O . . . . . . X O O X X X . | $$ | . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------
[go]$$Wcm171 Prisoners: $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . X . . . X X O O . O O X . . | $$ | . . . X O X O . X O X X . O O X . . . | $$ | . X O X X O X X . O . X O X O X . . . | $$ | . X O X . O 8 7 . O . . X X X X X . . | $$ | . X X O X O . X . . . . . . . O X O . | $$ | . O O O O . . O O 6 O . . . O O O O . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . X X X . O . O X O . | $$ | . . . . . . . . O . . . . . O X X X . | $$ | . . . , . . . X . , O O . . O X . O . | $$ | . . . . O . O X . O . . . O X . X . . | $$ | . . . . . . O O X X X X . . O X X X . | $$ | . . O O . . X O X . O . . . O . X . X | $$ | . . X O . O X O 5 . . . X . . . X . X | $$ | . . X . . . X O X . O O O O O O O X . | $$ | . . . X X X 2 X 4 X X X X X X O . O X | $$ | . . O X O . 1 O 3 . . . . X O X O O . | $$ | . O . O . O . . . . . . X O O X X X . | $$ | . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
Looks small, but is absolutely sente:
$$Wcm179 Prisoners: $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . X . . . X X O O . O O X . . | $$ | . . . X O X O 6 X O X X . O O X . . . | $$ | . X O X X O X X . O . X O X O X . . . | $$ | . X O X . O X O . O . . X X X X X . . | $$ | . X X O X O 2 X 4 5 . . . . . O X O . | $$ | . O O O O . 3 O O X O . . . O O O O . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . X X X . O . O X O . | $$ | . . . . . . . . O . . . . . O X X X . | $$ | . . . , . . . X . , O O . . O X . O . | $$ | . . . . O . O X . O . . . O X . X . . | $$ | . . . . . . O O X X X X . . O X X X . | $$ | . . O O . . X O X . O . . . O . X . X | $$ | . . X O . O X O O . . . X . . . X . X | $$ | . . X . . . X O X . O O O O O O O X . | $$ | . . . X X X X X X X X X X X X O . O X | $$ | . . O X O . O O O . . . . X O X O O . | $$ | . O . O . O . . . . . . X O O X X X . | $$ | . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------
[go]$$Wcm179 Prisoners: $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . X . . . X X O O . O O X . . | $$ | . . . X O X O 6 X O X X . O O X . . . | $$ | . X O X X O X X . O . X O X O X . . . | $$ | . X O X . O X O . O . . X X X X X . . | $$ | . X X O X O 2 X 4 5 . . . . . O X O . | $$ | . O O O O . 3 O O X O . . . O O O O . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . X X X . O . O X O . | $$ | . . . . . . . . O . . . . . O X X X . | $$ | . . . , . . . X . , O O . . O X . O . | $$ | . . . . O . O X . O . . . O X . X . . | $$ | . . . . . . O O X X X X . . O X X X . | $$ | . . O O . . X O X . O . . . O . X . X | $$ | . . X O . O X O O . . . X . . . X . X | $$ | . . X . . . X O X . O O O O O O O X . | $$ | . . . X X X X X X X X X X X X O . O X | $$ | . . O X O . O O O . . . . X O X O O . | $$ | . O . O . O . . . . . . X O O X X X . | $$ | . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
The sequence however ends in gote due to another misread. I'm dropping points like flies due to poor reading. The game is dead even I think at the moment, so it doesn't look so good... bah, what a stupid game
Re: #190 - topazg vs magicwand
Posted: Fri Dec 21, 2012 4:32 pm
by topazg
My current plan:
$$Wcm179 Prisoners: $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . X . . . X X O O . O O X . . | $$ | . . . X O X O 2 X O X X . O O X . . . | $$ | . X O X X O X X . O . X O X O X . . . | $$ | . X O X . O X O . O . . X X X X X . . | $$ | . X X O X O 1 X 3 . . . . . . O X O . | $$ | . O O O O . . O O B O . . . O O O O . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . B B B . O . O X O . | $$ | . . . . . . . . O . . . . . O X X X . | $$ | . . . , . . . X . , O O . . O X . O . | $$ | . . . . O . O X . O . . . O X . X . . | $$ | . . . . . . O O X X X X . . O X X X . | $$ | . . O O . . X O X . O . . . O . X . X | $$ | . . X O . O X O O . . . X . . . X . X | $$ | . . X . . . X O X . O O O O O O O X . | $$ | . . . X X X X X X X X X X X X O . O X | $$ | . . O X O . O O O . . . . X O X O O 4 | $$ | . O . O . O . . . . . . X O O X X X . | $$ | . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------
[go]$$Wcm179 Prisoners: $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . X . . . X X O O . O O X . . | $$ | . . . X O X O 2 X O X X . O O X . . . | $$ | . X O X X O X X . O . X O X O X . . . | $$ | . X O X . O X O . O . . X X X X X . . | $$ | . X X O X O 1 X 3 . . . . . . O X O . | $$ | . O O O O . . O O B O . . . O O O O . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . B B B . O . O X O . | $$ | . . . . . . . . O . . . . . O X X X . | $$ | . . . , . . . X . , O O . . O X . O . | $$ | . . . . O . O X . O . . . O X . X . . | $$ | . . . . . . O O X X X X . . O X X X . | $$ | . . O O . . X O X . O . . . O . X . X | $$ | . . X O . O X O O . . . X . . . X . X | $$ | . . X . . . X O X . O O O O O O O X . | $$ | . . . X X X X X X X X X X X X O . O X | $$ | . . O X O . O O O . . . . X O X O O 4 | $$ | . O . O . O . . . . . . X O O X X X . | $$ | . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
Everything depends on the big point at as far as I can see, so I'm desperately hoping he can't cut the marked Black stones off. If he can, I simply resign, but I can't read anything that does it.
Re: #190 - topazg vs magicwand
Posted: Fri Dec 21, 2012 4:59 pm
by Magicwand
G14
Re: #190 - topazg vs magicwand
Posted: Fri Dec 21, 2012 5:02 pm
by topazg
$$Wcm171 Prisoners: $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . X . . . X X O O . O O X . . | $$ | . . . X O X O 0 X O X X . O O X . . . | $$ | . X O X X O X X . O . X O X O X . . . | $$ | . X O X . O 8 7 . O . . X X X X X . . | $$ | . X X O X O 9 X . . . . . . . O X O . | $$ | . O O O O . . O O 6 O . . . O O O O . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . X X X . O . O X O . | $$ | . . . . . . . . O . . . . . O X X X . | $$ | . . . , . . . X . , O O . . O X . O . | $$ | . . . . O . O X . O . . . O X . X . . | $$ | . . . . . . O O X X X X . . O X X X . | $$ | . . O O . . X O X . O . . . O . X . X | $$ | . . X O . O X O 5 . . . X . . . X . X | $$ | . . X . . . X O X . O O O O O O O X . | $$ | . . . X X X 2 X 4 X X X X X X O . O X | $$ | . . O X O . 1 O 3 . . . . X O X O O . | $$ | . O . O . O . . . . . . X O O X X X . | $$ | . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------
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takes ko
as far as I can see, so I'm desperately hoping he can't cut the marked Black stones off. If he can, I simply resign, but I can't read anything that does it.