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Re: 3v3 Malkovitch Rengo #1

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[go]$$Bcm143 Move 143 Prisoners White 0 Black 1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . . O O . |
$$ | . . . . . X . O . . . . . X O O X X . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . X . X . X X X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . X O X . |
$$ | . . . O O O X . . . . O . . O O O O . |
$$ | . . . O X . X . . . X O . . . O X X O |
$$ | . . . O O X . . . O X X O O . O O X . |
$$ | . . . O X O . . . . X O X O X O X . X |
$$ | . . O X B . . . . X . . X . . O X . . |
$$ | . . O . X . . O . . . . X . O . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . X X . . . . . X O . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X X O . X . . . X X X O X . . . |
$$ | . . O X O O . X . . . O X O O . X . . |
$$ | . O X O O X . X O . . . O X O . O X . |
$$ | . O X O . O O O X O X X X X O . O X . |
$$ | . . X . . O . X X O . . O O X X O O . |
$$ | . X . O X O . X . . . X O X O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


He's bluffing or hoping for a mistake. By my count we're about 10 points ahead, not quite enough that I feel it's worth it to atari on the other side of the white stone, giving them a few stones in exchange for safety. I hope we can get d18, that would really seal the deal.
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Re: 3v3 Malkovitch Rengo #1

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[go]$$Wcm144 Move 144 Prisoners White 0 Black 1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . . O O . |
$$ | . . . . . X . O . . . . . X O O X X . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . X . X . X X X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X 1 . . . . . . . . X O X . |
$$ | . . . O O O X . . . . O . . O O O O . |
$$ | . . . O X . X . . . X O . . . O X X O |
$$ | . . . O O X . . . O X X O O . O O X . |
$$ | . . . O X O . . . . X O X O X O X . X |
$$ | . . O X X . . . . X . . X . . O X . . |
$$ | . . O . X . . O . . . . X . O . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . X X . . . . . X O . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X X O . X . . . X X X O X . . . |
$$ | . . O X O O . X . . . O X O O . X . . |
$$ | . O X O O X . X O . . . O X O . O X . |
$$ | . O X O . O O O X O X X X X O . O X . |
$$ | . . X . . O . X X O . . O O X X O O . |
$$ | . X . O X O . X . . . X O X O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


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[go]$$Wcm144 Move 144 Prisoners White 0 Black 1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . . O O . |
$$ | . . . . . X . O . . . . . X O O X X . |
$$ | . . . O . . 2 4 . X . X . X X X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X 1 3 . . . . . . . X O X . |
$$ | . . . O O O X . . . . O . . O O O O . |
$$ | . . . O X 6 X 7 . . X O . . . O X X O |
$$ | . . . O O X 5 . . O X X O O . O O X . |
$$ | . . . O X O . . . . X O X O X O X . X |
$$ | . . O X X . . . . X . . X . . O X . . |
$$ | . . O . X . . O . . . . X . O . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . X X . . . . . X O . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X X O . X . . . X X X O X . . . |
$$ | . . O X O O . X . . . O X O O . X . . |
$$ | . O X O O X . X O . . . O X O . O X . |
$$ | . O X O . O O O X O X X X X O . O X . |
$$ | . . X . . O . X X O . . O O X X O O . |
$$ | . X . O X O . X . . . X O X O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
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Re: 3v3 Malkovitch Rengo #1

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Ah, crap, I didn't think about that side, grrr.

Oh well, it's not the first time I lost the game for us. :cry:
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Re: 3v3 Malkovitch Rengo #1

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[go]$$Bcm145 Move 145 Prisoners White 0 Black 1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . . O O . |
$$ | . . . . . X . O . . . . . X O O X X . |
$$ | . . . O . . 1 . . X . X . X X X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X O . . . . . . . . X O X . |
$$ | . . . O O O X . . . . O . . O O O O . |
$$ | . . . O X . X . . . X O . . . O X X O |
$$ | . . . O O X . . . O X X O O . O O X . |
$$ | . . . O X O . . . . X O X O X O X . X |
$$ | . . O X X . . . . X . . X . . O X . . |
$$ | . . O . X . . O . . . . X . O . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . X X . . . . . X O . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X X O . X . . . X X X O X . . . |
$$ | . . O X O O . X . . . O X O O . X . . |
$$ | . O X O O X . X O . . . O X O . O X . |
$$ | . O X O . O O O X O X X X X O . O X . |
$$ | . . X . . O . X X O . . O O X X O O . |
$$ | . X . O X O . X . . . X O X O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
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Re: 3v3 Malkovitch Rengo #1

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*facepalm*

Just... two moves of reading...
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Re: 3v3 Malkovitch Rengo #1

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[go]$$Wcm146 Move 146 Prisoners White 0 Black 1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . . O O . |
$$ | . . . . . X . O . . . . . X O O X X . |
$$ | . . . O . . X . . X . X . X X X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X O 1 . . . . . . . X O X . |
$$ | . . . O O O X . . . . O . . O O O O . |
$$ | . . . O X . X . . . X O . . . O X X O |
$$ | . . . O O X . . . O X X O O . O O X . |
$$ | . . . O X O . . . . X O X O X O X . X |
$$ | . . O X X . . . . X . . X . . O X . . |
$$ | . . O . X . . O . . . . X . O . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . X X . . . . . X O . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X X O . X . . . X X X O X . . . |
$$ | . . O X O O . X . . . O X O O . X . . |
$$ | . O X O O X . X O . . . O X O . O X . |
$$ | . O X O . O O O X O X X X X O . O X . |
$$ | . . X . . O . X X O . . O O X X O O . |
$$ | . X . O X O . X . . . X O X O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

These cuts seem interesting, but I'm glad this is an automatic move, sice I can't read them that well.
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Re: 3v3 Malkovitch Rengo #1

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... what do I even do here...


I'll move later.
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Re: 3v3 Malkovitch Rengo #1

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[go]$$Bcm147 Move 147 Prisoners White 0 Black 1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . . O O . |
$$ | . . . . . X . O . . . . . X O O X X . |
$$ | . . . O . . X 1 . X . X . X X X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X O O . . . . . . . X O X . |
$$ | . . . O O O X . . . . O . . O O O O . |
$$ | . . . O X . X . . . X O . . . O X X O |
$$ | . . . O O X . . . O X X O O . O O X . |
$$ | . . . O X O . . . . X O X O X O X . X |
$$ | . . O X X . . . . X . . X . . O X . . |
$$ | . . O . X . . O . . . . X . O . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . X X . . . . . X O . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X X O . X . . . X X X O X . . . |
$$ | . . O X O O . X . . . O X O O . X . . |
$$ | . O X O O X . X O . . . O X O . O X . |
$$ | . O X O . O O O X O X X X X O . O X . |
$$ | . . X . . O . X X O . . O O X X O O . |
$$ | . X . O X O . X . . . X O X O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

I can't believe Jordus played that atari... I can't find anything now. Resignation is soon.
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Re: 3v3 Malkovitch Rengo #1

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Click Here To Show Diagram Code
[go]$$Bcm147 Move 147 Prisoners White 0 Black 1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . . O O . |
$$ | . . . . . X . O . . . . . X O O X X . |
$$ | . . . O . . X X . X . X . X X X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X O O . . . . . . . X O X . |
$$ | . . . O O O X . . . . O . . O O O O . |
$$ | . . . O X . X . . . X O . . . O X X O |
$$ | . . . O O X W . . O X X O O . O O X . |
$$ | . . . O X O . . . . X O X O X O X . X |
$$ | . . O X X . . . . X . . X . . O X . . |
$$ | . . O . X . . O . . . . X . O . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . X X . . . . . X O . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X X O . X . . . X X X O X . . . |
$$ | . . O X O O . X . . . O X O O . X . . |
$$ | . O X O O X . X O . . . O X O . O X . |
$$ | . O X O . O O O X O X X X X O . O X . |
$$ | . . X . . O . X X O . . O O X X O O . |
$$ | . X . O X O . X . . . X O X O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
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Re: 3v3 Malkovitch Rengo #1

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[go]$$Bcm149 Move 149 Prisoners White 0 Black 1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . . O O . |
$$ | . . . . . X . O . . . . . X O O X X . |
$$ | . . . O . . X X . X . X . X X X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X O O . . . . . . . X O X . |
$$ | . . . O O O X . . . . O . . O O O O . |
$$ | . . . O X . X . . . X O . . . O X X O |
$$ | . . . O O X O B . O X X O O . O O X . |
$$ | . . . O X O . . . . X O X O X O X . X |
$$ | . . O X X . . . . X . . X . . O X . . |
$$ | . . O . X . . O . . . . X . O . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . X X . . . . . X O . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X X O . X . . . X X X O X . . . |
$$ | . . O X O O . X . . . O X O O . X . . |
$$ | . O X O O X . X O . . . O X O . O X . |
$$ | . O X O . O O O X O X X X X O . O X . |
$$ | . . X . . O . X X O . . O O X X O O . |
$$ | . X . O X O . X . . . X O X O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Seems to be the only move. Atari on the other side could lead to a ko or a result not much different than this, white's choice. So there doesn't seem to be an advantage, as the ko wouldn't help us that much, and if it did, white wouldn't allow it.
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Re: 3v3 Malkovitch Rengo #1

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i am not playing this game to find a best moves and sequence.
my main focus in this game is to give my weakest link the obvious moves only.
but that is even harder than finding best move :(
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[go]$$Wcm150 Move 150 Prisoners White 0 Black 1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . . O O . |
$$ | . . . . . X . O . . . . . X O O X X . |
$$ | . . . O . . X X . X . X . X X X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X O O . . . . . . . X O X . |
$$ | . . . O O O X . . . . O . . O O O O . |
$$ | . . . O X . X . . . X O . . . O X X O |
$$ | . . . O O X O X . O X X O O . O O X . |
$$ | . . . O X O 1 . . . X O X O X O X . X |
$$ | . . O X X . . . . X . . X . . O X . . |
$$ | . . O . X . . O . . . . X . O . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . X X . . . . . X O . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X X O . X . . . X X X O X . . . |
$$ | . . O X O O . X . . . O X O O . X . . |
$$ | . O X O O X . X O . . . O X O . O X . |
$$ | . O X O . O O O X O X X X X O . O X . |
$$ | . . X . . O . X X O . . O O X X O O . |
$$ | . X . O X O . X . . . X O X O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Maximising our chance of connecting to H9
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Re: 3v3 Malkovitch Rengo #1

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below is the correct answer to black's atari. :(
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[go]$$Wcm150 Move 150 Prisoners White 0 Black 1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . . O O . |
$$ | . . . . . X . O . . . . . X O O X X . |
$$ | . . . O . . X X . X . X . X X X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X O O . . . . . . . X O X . |
$$ | . . . O O O X . . . . O . . O O O O . |
$$ | . . . O . 1 X . . . X O . . . O X X O |
$$ | . . . O O . O X . O X X O O . O O X . |
$$ | . . . O X O . . . . X O X O X O X . X |
$$ | . . O X X . . . . X . . X . . O X . . |
$$ | . . O . X . . O . . . . X . O . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . X X . . . . . X O . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X X O . X . . . X X X O X . . . |
$$ | . . O X O O . X . . . O X O O . X . . |
$$ | . O X O O X . X O . . . O X O . O X . |
$$ | . O X O . O O O X O X X X X O . O X . |
$$ | . . X . . O . X X O . . O O X X O O . |
$$ | . X . O X O . X . . . X O X O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
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Re: 3v3 Malkovitch Rengo #1

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Am I allowed to ask, was your comment about comparing the extension to the capture? If so, would you have done the other?
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Re: 3v3 Malkovitch Rengo #1

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to topazg: yes it was.
and you probably can guess what i said in my hidden.
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