$$Wc $$ ----------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . X O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . X O X . O O X . O . X . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X X . O O X X O . O X X . X . X . | $$ | . . . . . X O . X X O . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X . X O . . . O . . . . . O . . | $$ | . . . . . O O X . X O . X . . O . . . | $$ | . X . X . . . . . . X O . . . O X . . | $$ | . O . . X O . . . . X . X . . . . . . | $$ | . . O O . O X X X , X . . . O , O . . | $$ | . O X O . O O O . O O . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X X X O . . . O X . . X O . X . . | $$ | . . . . O O X . . . . . O O . . . . . | $$ | . . O X . X . . . . . . . . X . X . . | $$ | . . . . . X X . X X X X O . . . . . . | $$ | . . X X . . . . O . . O . O . X . . . | $$ | . X O X X O O . O X X . . O X . . . . | $$ | . O O O W . . X O . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ --------------------------------
[go]$$Wc $$ ----------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . X O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . X O X . O O X . O . X . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X X . O O X X O . O X X . X . X . | $$ | . . . . . X O . X X O . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X . X O . . . O . . . . . O . . | $$ | . . . . . O O X . X O . X . . O . . . | $$ | . X . X . . . . . . X O . . . O X . . | $$ | . O . . X O . . . . X . X . . . . . . | $$ | . . O O . O X X X , X . . . O , O . . | $$ | . O X O . O O O . O O . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X X X O . . . O X . . X O . X . . | $$ | . . . . O O X . . . . . O O . . . . . | $$ | . . O X . X . . . . . . . . X . X . . | $$ | . . . . . X X . X X X X O . . . . . . | $$ | . . X X . . . . O . . O . O . X . . . | $$ | . X O X X O O . O X X . . O X . . . . | $$ | . O O O W . . X O . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ --------------------------------[/go]
Re: #231 drmwc vs Joaz Banbeck
Posted: Fri Jun 23, 2017 2:38 am
by drmwc
Black's big group can almost certainly live. Balck should avoid dropping stragglers if possible.
But I should keep sente, and I think I can live at the top e.g. one line is
$$Bc $$ ----------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . X O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . X O X . O O X . O . X . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X X . O O X X O . O X X . X . X . | $$ | . . . . . X O . X X O . 2 3 . . . . . | $$ | . . . X . X O . . . O . 4 5 . . O . . | $$ | . . . . . O O X . X O 8 X 9 . O . . . | $$ | . X . X . . . . . . X O 6 7 . O X . . | $$ | . O . . X O . . . . X . X . . . . . . | $$ | . . O O . O X X X , X . . . O , O . . | $$ | . O X O . O O O . O O . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X X X O . . . O X . . X O . X . . | $$ | . . . 1 O O X . . . . . O O . . . . . | $$ | . . O X . X . . . . . . . . X . X . . | $$ | . . . . . X X . X X X X O . . . . . . | $$ | . . X X . . . . O . . O . O . X . . . | $$ | . X O X X O O . O X X . . O X . . . . | $$ | . O O O O . . X O . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ --------------------------------
[go]$$Bc $$ ----------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . X O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . X O X . O O X . O . X . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X X . O O X X O . O X X . X . X . | $$ | . . . . . X O . X X O . 2 3 . . . . . | $$ | . . . X . X O . . . O . 4 5 . . O . . | $$ | . . . . . O O X . X O 8 X 9 . O . . . | $$ | . X . X . . . . . . X O 6 7 . O X . . | $$ | . O . . X O . . . . X . X . . . . . . | $$ | . . O O . O X X X , X . . . O , O . . | $$ | . O X O . O O O . O O . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X X X O . . . O X . . X O . X . . | $$ | . . . 1 O O X . . . . . O O . . . . . | $$ | . . O X . X . . . . . . . . X . X . . | $$ | . . . . . X X . X X X X O . . . . . . | $$ | . . X X . . . . O . . O . O . X . . . | $$ | . X O X X O O . O X X . . O X . . . . | $$ | . O O O O . . X O . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ --------------------------------[/go]
If this happens, I have a possible cut against the top middle black group. I can live with my group. I'm very thin, and it's all courting disaster, but it may win.
I need to be aggressive, as if everything lives everywhere, I don't have much territory.
Re: #231 drmwc vs Joaz Banbeck
Posted: Sun Oct 01, 2017 1:31 pm
by Joaz Banbeck
My opponent is back. It must be time for my yearly move.
I may need a few months to think about it.
Re: #231 drmwc vs Joaz Banbeck
Posted: Sun Oct 01, 2017 1:48 pm
by Bill Spight
Joaz Banbeck wrote:My opponent is back. It must be time for my yearly move.
I may need a few months to think about it.
Re: #231 drmwc vs Joaz Banbeck
Posted: Sun Oct 01, 2017 2:54 pm
by Joaz Banbeck
I'll play fast. Maybe he won't notice that his clock is running and I can win on time.
Actually, a few minutes thought shows this move to be forced. It connects the loose stones at 8c/d/e, and threatens to make easy life if he tenukis.
$$Wc $$ ----------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . X O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . X O X . O O X . O . X . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X X . O O X X O . O X X . X . X . | $$ | . . . . . X O . X X O . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X . X O . . . O . . . . . O . . | $$ | . . . . . O O X . X O . X . . O . . . | $$ | . X . X . . . . . . X O . . . O X . . | $$ | . O . . X O . . . . X . X . . . . . . | $$ | . . O O . O X X X , X . . . O , O . . | $$ | . O X O . O O O . O O . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X X X O . . . O X . . X O . X . . | $$ | . . . B O O X . . . . . O O . . . . . | $$ | . . O X . X . . . . . . . . X . X . . | $$ | . . . . . X X . X X X X O . . . . . . | $$ | . . X X . . . . O . . O . O . X . . . | $$ | . X O X X O O . O X X . . O X . . . . | $$ | . O O O W . . X O . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ----------------------------------------
[go]$$Wc $$ ----------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . X O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . X O X . O O X . O . X . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X X . O O X X O . O X X . X . X . | $$ | . . . . . X O . X X O . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X . X O . . . O . . . . . O . . | $$ | . . . . . O O X . X O . X . . O . . . | $$ | . X . X . . . . . . X O . . . O X . . | $$ | . O . . X O . . . . X . X . . . . . . | $$ | . . O O . O X X X , X . . . O , O . . | $$ | . O X O . O O O . O O . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X X X O . . . O X . . X O . X . . | $$ | . . . B O O X . . . . . O O . . . . . | $$ | . . O X . X . . . . . . . . X . X . . | $$ | . . . . . X X . X X X X O . . . . . . | $$ | . . X X . . . . O . . O . O . X . . . | $$ | . X O X X O O . O X X . . O X . . . . | $$ | . O O O W . . X O . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ----------------------------------------[/go]
Re: #231 drmwc vs Joaz Banbeck
Posted: Sun Oct 01, 2017 4:17 pm
by Joaz Banbeck
@Observers:
Joaz Banbeck wrote:... a few minutes thought shows this move to be forced. It connects the loose stones at 8c/d/e, and threatens to make easy life if he tenukis...
The implied idea here is that I am ahead by a minimum of 10 points. If I round his territory upwards, the best I can see is about 40; if I round mine down, the worst is about 50 ( that includes losing all of the lower left side ). So his only winning strategy is to kill something. A possible distant second is to try to make a few points in every yose encounter.
My strategy, therefore, is the opposite: to keep everything alive. A secondary strategy might be to not lose too much in yose.
Re: #231 drmwc vs Joaz Banbeck
Posted: Thu Nov 09, 2017 2:04 pm
by drmwc
$$Wc $$ ----------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . X O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . X O X . O O X . O . X . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X X . O O X X O . O X X . X . X . | $$ | . . . . . X O . X X O . W . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X . X O . . . O . . . . . O . . | $$ | . . . . . O O X . X O . X . . O . . . | $$ | . X . X . . . . . . X O . . . O X . . | $$ | . O . . X O . . . . X . X . . . . . . | $$ | . . O O . O X X X , X . . . O , O . . | $$ | . O X O . O O O . O O . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X X X O . . . O X . . X O . X . . | $$ | . . . X O O X . . . . . O O . . . . . | $$ | . . O X . X . . . . . . . . X . X . . | $$ | . . . . . X X . X X X X O . . . . . . | $$ | . . X X . . . . O . . O . O . X . . . | $$ | . X O X X O O . O X X . . O X . . . . | $$ | . O O O O . . X O . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ----------------------------------------
[go]$$Wc $$ ----------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . X O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . X O X . O O X . O . X . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X X . O O X X O . O X X . X . X . | $$ | . . . . . X O . X X O . W . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X . X O . . . O . . . . . O . . | $$ | . . . . . O O X . X O . X . . O . . . | $$ | . X . X . . . . . . X O . . . O X . . | $$ | . O . . X O . . . . X . X . . . . . . | $$ | . . O O . O X X X , X . . . O , O . . | $$ | . O X O . O O O . O O . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X X X O . . . O X . . X O . X . . | $$ | . . . X O O X . . . . . O O . . . . . | $$ | . . O X . X . . . . . . . . X . X . . | $$ | . . . . . X X . X X X X O . . . . . . | $$ | . . X X . . . . O . . O . O . X . . . | $$ | . X O X X O O . O X X . . O X . . . . | $$ | . O O O O . . X O . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ----------------------------------------[/go]
Re: #231 drmwc vs Joaz Banbeck
Posted: Fri Feb 02, 2018 2:09 am
by drmwc
I think I may actually be ahead in time now! (Probably not if anyone is actually counting, though.)
Re: #231 drmwc vs Joaz Banbeck
Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2018 11:02 am
by jonsa
BUMP
(I've been a lurker for a while but it was the tragic evaporation of this game that compelled me to make an account so it could surface once more. I want to see the conclusion!)
