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Re: Capital vs. Lowercase: Collaboration Game
Posted: Fri Jan 01, 2016 1:45 am
by TegaiS
@Black
I like this the most
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Click Here To Show Diagram Code [go]$$Bcm21But Kirby didn't like it so let's wait for his reasoning.
Re: Capital vs. Lowercase: Collaboration Game
Posted: Fri Jan 01, 2016 8:34 am
by Joaz Banbeck
@Black:
TegaiS wrote: I like this the most
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Click Here To Show Diagram Code [go]$$Bcm21I prefer it too. But let us keep in mind that it is not forced: white can avoid the squeeze like this:
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$$Bcm1 Seems forced for both sides after 4
Click Here To Show Diagram Code [go]$$Bcm1 Seems forced for both sides after 4Which leads to a position similar to what Kirby prefers, but better for us because white is lower and has less territory.
I think that if we choose to hane at G18, then this is where we will end up because the squeeze is just too humiliating for white and leaves their whole D16 group vulnerable. So they will avoid the squeeze. ( And we can avoid having to debate J17 vs J18
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TegaiS wrote: But Kirby didn't like it so let's wait for his reasoning.
Agreed. I think we have to play by
Saturday Monday.
Re: Capital vs. Lowercase: Collaboration Game
Posted: Fri Jan 01, 2016 8:42 am
by Joaz Banbeck
@Kirby:
Kirby wrote: ...I'm a little peeved...
Again, I'm sorry about the misunderstanding. It appears to be my fault. Please see your PM box later today.
Re: Capital vs. Lowercase: Collaboration Game
Posted: Sun Jan 03, 2016 10:52 pm
by Joaz Banbeck
@BLACK:
Kirby wrote: ...I'm OK with any of J17, J18, E16, or H18.
TegaiS wrote: I like this the most
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Click Here To Show Diagram Code [go]$$Bcm21But Kirby didn't like it so let's wait for his reasoning.
This is a bit ambiguous. Are we agreed that we play the hane at G18?
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Re: Capital vs. Lowercase: Collaboration Game
Posted: Sun Jan 03, 2016 10:59 pm
by Joaz Banbeck
@BLACK:
Joaz Banbeck wrote: ... Are we agreed that we play the hane at G18?
And, if so, when they play the only sane move they have, do we agree on this?
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Re: Capital vs. Lowercase: Collaboration Game
Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2016 9:10 am
by Joaz Banbeck
@white:
I think that we have a tolerable conscensus, but I'm not quite sure.
We are now 44 minutes from overstepping our one week. So, if you guys get to the point that you think we should forfeit on time, please open the hidden diagram below.
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Re: Capital vs. Lowercase: Collaboration Game
Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2016 10:33 am
by emeraldemon
I never meant it to be forfeit on time. I just meant if a week goes by any player can pick the movie I like best and play it.
Re: Capital vs. Lowercase: Collaboration Game
Posted: Tue Jan 05, 2016 8:09 am
by skydyr
emeraldemon wrote: I never meant it to be forfeit on time. I just meant if a week goes by any player can pick the movie I like best and play it.
I too took it as a guideline to keep the game moving. Obviously trying to coordinate 3 people's schedules for months at a time, who may have travel for business or pleasure, work and family commitments, etc. is bound not to be perfect.
Re: Capital vs. Lowercase: Collaboration Game
Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2016 12:15 pm
by Joaz Banbeck
Assuming that you guys play 2, we play 3 like this:
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Re: Capital vs. Lowercase: Collaboration Game
Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2016 12:39 pm
by skydyr
Re: Capital vs. Lowercase: Collaboration Game
Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2016 2:59 pm
by emeraldemon
Re: Capital vs. Lowercase: Collaboration Game
Posted: Thu Jan 07, 2016 12:09 am
by andreyl
Re: Capital vs. Lowercase: Collaboration Game
Posted: Thu Jan 07, 2016 7:44 am
by emeraldemon
Ok after trigger we are here:
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Re: Capital vs. Lowercase: Collaboration Game
Posted: Thu Jan 07, 2016 7:56 am
by skydyr
Re: Capital vs. Lowercase: Collaboration Game
Posted: Thu Jan 07, 2016 8:02 am
by emeraldemon
@white:
The move we talked about before was E18, making the corner safe:
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Click Here To Show Diagram Code [go]$$Bcm35If we go that route it might be good to peep first. If the corner is safe black might be more tempted to ignore it, but now I doubt black would tennuki.
$$Bcm35 Peep first
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Click Here To Show Diagram Code [go]$$Bcm35 Would black ignore peep?If black tennukis, we can reduce the black stones to one eye, but we have many cutting points:
$$Bcm35 Dangerous to try to capture
Click Here To Show Diagram Code [go]$$Bcm35 Dangerous to try to captureIf we don't capture that stone we have to be sure the white corner can live somehow, it may become a big semeai:
$$Bcm35 Capturing race?
Click Here To Show Diagram Code [go]$$Bcm35 Capturing race?If we could be sure of winning the race after K17 we should go for it, but we are very thin outside.
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