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Re: Losing 50 more games

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The plays 14, 24, 26, 30 and 32 all seem questionable to me. A two stone handicap is about 15 points, say. This is not enough so that you can play tightly for territory from the start. Invade the top side three-space extension, at least.
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You lost the game because you let White develop the top side -- and how!

But your play was also thin. You left serious weaknesses behind, which White took advantage of. So my general advice is to play more thickly.
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Re: Losing 50 more games

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Uberdude wrote:
emeraldemon on move 14 wrote:Seems to work with my top left group

On the contrary, it is inefficient with it, better would be to kick [...]


Indeed this position (very nearly) is discussed as a diagram in one of my articles:

http://gobase.org/studying/articles/matthews/fuseki/01/
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Re: Losing 50 more games

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I had a player resign immediately against me in automatch, which set my rank as solid 1d. So then I played this game giving two stones to a player I should probably play even against:



and I won! KGS thinks I am 2d now, there's no way that's true, but I'm looking forward to playing against stronger players than I usually do, I hope to play my best and fight to death, maybe I can keep the rank for a while. Who knows, maybe I can use it to pull myself up!
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Re: Losing 50 more games

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For move 111, I think it should still be seki. O16 is sente, so you can play that first and then come back to connect at K15.
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Re: Losing 50 more games

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RE move 8, breakfast did that against me in our OGS game (viewtopic.php?f=4&t=7840). His r6 push was a bit unusual (slide more common), but you absolutely must extend, you can't let him hane there. His o5 is a bit much, and you shouldn't be so obedient to defend the cut but take the key point at q7. You seem rather confused in that corner, for example in the variation for 39 (yes better than solid connect) why did you think black would play 40 at p5? It takes away his own liberties and gives your 3 stones more, for example now if q7 and you p7 then p6 cut no longer threatens a snapback (and is shorter of liberties).
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Re: Losing 50 more games

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@amatterof
thanks, that was a huge move that we both missed, I fought a ko I didn't have to fight...

@uberdude

So how should white play if black cuts? A running fight like this?

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Re: Losing 50 more games

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Seems like you defended 1d quite well. You really did seem the stronger player in this game.

Good luck defending 2d!
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Re: Losing 50 more games

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emeraldemon wrote: [...] and I won!


Both players fighters. But before White 215 both apparently missed F17. Beware the "shunt".
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Re: Losing 50 more games

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emeraldemon wrote:
So how should white play if black cuts?


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Like this, when the two white stones in the lower right are Black's headache, not yours? You have gained hugely on the left.
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Charles Matthews wrote:
emeraldemon wrote: [...] and I won!
Both players fighters. But before White 215 both apparently missed F17. Beware the "shunt".
Didn't Black 186 take care of that?
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Re: Losing 50 more games

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mitsun wrote:
Charles Matthews wrote:
emeraldemon wrote: [...] and I won!
Both players fighters. But before White 215 both apparently missed F17. Beware the "shunt".
Didn't Black 186 take care of that?


Ah, you are correct! As they say, the players see more of the game than the kibbitzers.
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