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#259 - DJLLAP vs. schawipp

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Re: #259 - DJLLAP vs. schawipp

Posted: Wed Mar 02, 2016 2:39 pm
by schawipp
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Playing at bottom, e.g. K4 is a bit tricky due to the forcing move M3 and finally seems to strengthen white's center more quickly than necessary. Therefore I keep trying to strengten my groups along both sides. It seems that O7 is more solid than P7.

Re: #259 - DJLLAP vs. schawipp

Posted: Wed Mar 02, 2016 5:50 pm
by DJLLAP
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[go]$$Bcm21 Prisoners: :b1:
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I don't think I can tenuki, so I think its best to jum into the center while making a 3 dimentional shape.

Re: #259 - DJLLAP vs. schawipp

Posted: Thu Mar 03, 2016 1:12 am
by schawipp
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[go]$$Bcm31 Prisoners: :b1:
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Fixing my shape (now, there seems no more cut possible at right side), putting some latent pressure on center and threatening a big moyo in upper right could not be totally wrong. The bottom side has become completely uninteresting. With k4 I could secure around 15 points there while handing over all the influence on the remaining board to white.

Re: #259 - DJLLAP vs. schawipp

Posted: Thu Mar 03, 2016 2:13 pm
by DJLLAP
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[go]$$Bcm31 Prisoners: :b1:
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I think my center group is strong enough to take a big point, and this one is HUGE. If I am incredibly lucky, I might even get to split him down the middle and attack the wall on the left.

Re: #259 - DJLLAP vs. schawipp

Posted: Sun Mar 06, 2016 2:43 pm
by schawipp
Sorry for the delay, weekend was rather busy...

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[go]$$Bcm31 Prisoners: :b1:
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I would have liked to play myself at the place of :w32: for sure. However after :w30: I had the feeling that I have to reinforce the connection between my N4 group and top side. Because white could disturb with forcing moves like M3 it seems not too easy to live at the bottom, if this group gets separated. But maybe I was too pessimistic here(?). In any case this would be interesting to further analyze.

Regarding the game move - if white replies at left side I am planning to play some "capping" move on the center and see what happens. My left side group has better shape than my right side group, in an emergency I could settle it at the bottom by playing K4. If my plan works I'll get some strength in the center radiating towards top side.

Re: #259 - DJLLAP vs. schawipp

Posted: Sun Mar 06, 2016 3:14 pm
by Bill Spight
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[go]$$Bcm31 Prisoners: :b1:
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My sealed move. :)

Re: #259 - DJLLAP vs. schawipp

Posted: Sun Mar 06, 2016 6:18 pm
by DJLLAP
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[go]$$Bcm31 Prisoners: :b1:
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He seems to want to capture the middle group on a huge scale. I thought about tenuki, but it seems a little dangerous. My shape here is light and three-dimensional, so it should be fine. I think it can live inside without too much trouble if he tries to swallow it.

Re: #259 - DJLLAP vs. schawipp

Posted: Sun Mar 06, 2016 7:44 pm
by skydyr
DJLLAP wrote:
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[go]$$Bcm31 Prisoners: :b1:
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He seems to want to capture the middle group on a huge scale. I thought about tenuki, but it seems a little dangerous. My shape here is light and three-dimensional, so it should be fine. I think it can live inside without too much trouble if he tries to swallow it.


While white still has some options, I think that black would be happy if he were able to get lots of outside forcing moves in exchange for making white live small in sente, and then proceeding to consolidate a huge moyo on the upper right into territory. Black could have the same potential as before, and all white got was a 2-point living group in what's now a dame area.

Re: #259 - DJLLAP vs. schawipp

Posted: Mon Mar 07, 2016 2:47 pm
by schawipp
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[go]$$Bcm31 Prisoners: :b1:
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$$ ----------------------------------------[/go]


I'm not really glad with the opening. The only thing w has to do is to stay alive in center, then at least my left side is fairly ineffective. But the show must go on...

Re: #259 - DJLLAP vs. schawipp

Posted: Mon Mar 07, 2016 8:39 pm
by DJLLAP
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[go]$$Bcm31 Prisoners: :b1:
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$$ ----------------------------------------[/go]


Since he keeps trying to build the center, I guess I will just make sure I eat it all up. The only are of the board where Black has large potential is the right hand side, so I jumped in that direction.

Re: #259 - DJLLAP vs. schawipp

Posted: Tue Mar 08, 2016 1:35 pm
by schawipp
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[go]$$Bcm31 Prisoners: :b1:
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$$ ----------------------------------------[/go]


My biological policy network likes that move. It lacks precise calculation, though... ;-)

Re: #259 - DJLLAP vs. schawipp

Posted: Tue Mar 08, 2016 2:00 pm
by DJLLAP
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[go]$$Bcm31 Prisoners: :b1:
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$$ ----------------------------------------[/go]


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[go]$$Wcm1 Prisoners: :b1:
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$$ ----------------------------------------[/go]


B played a little soft here I think. I was expecting an attack somewhere like "a" which seems much more severe. I considered taking "a" myself, but at second thought it seemed small and passive, and it only guarantees one eye.

I next considered the attachment I played. The fight is very favorable for W if Black hanes at "a" so I expect he will hane above. I didn't wan't the fighting to result in a large black right side, so I plan on jumping afterwards. I might have gone straight for the jump and sipped the attachment, but I think the attachment give W more options, and takes some away from black. Peeping at "b" for example no longer looks as good for B.

Re: #259 - DJLLAP vs. schawipp

Posted: Tue Mar 08, 2016 2:18 pm
by schawipp
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[go]$$Bcm31 Prisoners: :b1:
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$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . X X . . . |
$$ | . . O , X X . . . , . . X . X O O . . |
$$ | . . . O O X . . . . . . . X O . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . O . . . |
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$$ ----------------------------------------[/go]


Why not...? One small crosscheck in case if white crosscuts: H11 J9 K10 H9 and neither the ladder at J12 or the net at J12+L12 works.

Re: #259 - DJLLAP vs. schawipp

Posted: Tue Mar 08, 2016 3:17 pm
by DJLLAP
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$$ | . . . O . . . . . , . . . . . X . . . |
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . 0 . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . . 9 . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . X O , O . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . . . . . . . X . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O . . O . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . X . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . . O . . O . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . X X . . . |
$$ | . . O , X X . . . , . . X . X O O . . |
$$ | . . . O O X . . . . . . . X O . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ----------------------------------------[/go]

Re: #259 - DJLLAP vs. schawipp

Posted: Wed Mar 09, 2016 3:10 pm
by schawipp
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[go]$$Bcm41 Prisoners: :b1:
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$$ | . . . O . . . . . 1 . . . . . X . . . |
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . . X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . X O , O . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . . . . . . . X . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O . . O . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . X . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . . O . . O . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . X X . . . |
$$ | . . O , X X . . . , . . X . X O O . . |
$$ | . . . O O X . . . . . . . X O . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . O . . . |
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$$ ----------------------------------------[/go]


There are many different choices, here, e.g.
- Start something messy in the center, but this feels insecure and badly prepared.
- Protect right side at O12, but this somehow has a "pushing from behind" feeling. Further, the "sixth line territory" would be still pretty open for invasion.

Thus I take what feels like the biggest point left on the board. White could now invade into right side and try to cut it off, but it seems no problem to live with lower right side separately, e.g.

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$$ | . . . O . . . . . 1 . . . . . X . . . |
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . 3 . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . . X . . . . . 2 . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . X O , O . . . . 4 5 . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . . . . . . . X . 6 X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O . . O . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . X . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . . O . . O . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . X X . . . |
$$ | . . O , X X . . . , . . X . X O O . . |
$$ | . . . O O X . . . . . 7 . X O . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ----------------------------------------[/go]


I don't see a major problem for black in this example.
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