Why do KGS admins let the EGR be such a den of stupidity?
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Re: Why do KGS admins let the EGR be such a den of stupidity
By the way, what's wrong with occasional stupidity? Conversation shouldn't always be nice and intelligent, or it'll become boring 
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Re: Why do KGS admins let the EGR be such a den of stupidity
gaius wrote:By the way, what's wrong with occasional stupidity? Conversation shouldn't always be nice and intelligent, or it'll become boring
The intelligent convesations are always boring to the stupid people.
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Re: Why do KGS admins let the EGR be such a den of stupidity
Stefany93 wrote:gaius wrote:By the way, what's wrong with occasional stupidity? Conversation shouldn't always be nice and intelligent, or it'll become boring
The intelligent convesations are always boring to the stupid people.
Hehe... can't... resist... urge to post...

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Re: Why do KGS admins let the EGR be such a den of stupidity
Phew, that's out, time to get back to intelligent conversation 
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When in doubt, play the most aggressive move
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Re: Why do KGS admins let the EGR be such a den of stupidity
Most of it's simply playfulness :p. It does get rather silly sometimes (and I know I've contributed my share ...), but you know, it's the first online community where I've actually felt like chatting with other people for a long time!
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Re: Why do KGS admins let the EGR be such a den of stupidity
schilds wrote:Most of it's simply playfulness :p. It does get rather silly sometimes (and I know I've contributed my share ...), but you know, it's the first online community where I've actually felt like chatting with other people for a long time!
That explains many things.
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Re: Why do KGS admins let the EGR be such a den of stupidity
I've found that in many online forums/chat rooms, even when the talk is on-topic and 'serious', most people are just talking past each other. Thankfully (so far) the go community doesn't seem to be like that.
Anyway. Many kinds of serious discussions can be had by simply inviting people into a game (where having a board handy is useful as an aid anyway). What is left are light on-topic conversations (which do occur occasionally) and idle chatter (which can simply be ignored). What is unfortunate is when genuine questions are drowned out. On other hand, a silent room doesn't guarantee a useful response either, since no-one may answer.
Background noise in the egr is insignificant, it's really not worth any consideration, negative or otherwise.
Anyway. Many kinds of serious discussions can be had by simply inviting people into a game (where having a board handy is useful as an aid anyway). What is left are light on-topic conversations (which do occur occasionally) and idle chatter (which can simply be ignored). What is unfortunate is when genuine questions are drowned out. On other hand, a silent room doesn't guarantee a useful response either, since no-one may answer.
Background noise in the egr is insignificant, it's really not worth any consideration, negative or otherwise.
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Re: Why do KGS admins let the EGR be such a den of stupidity
When I used to play on KGS ( stoped to play go like 3 months ago ) I almost never went to EGR. But from time to time, after a game, I would stop there.
What annoyed me a lot is not really people not speaking about Go, but all those people who spend their time testing every limits in place regarding what they could do. Mostly it was people setting up an account just to chat, no go games, and they would troll for hours. They go so far as to pride themself of the bad reactions they get from being aggressive and put quote of people losing their temper and yelling at them in their profile.
And what astonish me is that those people have followers.
It must be hard to be a moderator with those people around sometimes. "But, Admin_002, what is wrong with me correcting the spelling of every word this non english speaking new comer wrote instead of helping him out. There certainly is no rules again that !? It is not my fault if he quit !"
Or the kind of conversation that make my eyes bleed :
Player A : So my cat landed in my bath, is it safe to dry it with the microwave ? Most of the cats hate to be wet.
Troll : that is not true, my uncle's cat likes to take showers.
Player B : Yeah my cat drinks from the sink.
Player C : once my cat jumped from the second floor and landed in a bush.
Player D : my cat can lick his own balls.
Troll : see player A, there is a wikipedia article on tiger in micronesia who bath into open sea.
Player A has left the room *cat exploded in the microwave*
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_VfSl0iGAus
What annoyed me a lot is not really people not speaking about Go, but all those people who spend their time testing every limits in place regarding what they could do. Mostly it was people setting up an account just to chat, no go games, and they would troll for hours. They go so far as to pride themself of the bad reactions they get from being aggressive and put quote of people losing their temper and yelling at them in their profile.
And what astonish me is that those people have followers.
It must be hard to be a moderator with those people around sometimes. "But, Admin_002, what is wrong with me correcting the spelling of every word this non english speaking new comer wrote instead of helping him out. There certainly is no rules again that !? It is not my fault if he quit !"
Or the kind of conversation that make my eyes bleed :
Player A : So my cat landed in my bath, is it safe to dry it with the microwave ? Most of the cats hate to be wet.
Troll : that is not true, my uncle's cat likes to take showers.
Player B : Yeah my cat drinks from the sink.
Player C : once my cat jumped from the second floor and landed in a bush.
Player D : my cat can lick his own balls.
Troll : see player A, there is a wikipedia article on tiger in micronesia who bath into open sea.
Player A has left the room *cat exploded in the microwave*
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_VfSl0iGAus
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Re: Why do KGS admins let the EGR be such a den of stupidity
Tortue wrote:When I used to play on KGS ( stoped to play go like 3 months ago ) I almost never went to EGR. But from time to time, after a game, I would stop there.
What annoyed me a lot is not really people not speaking about Go, but all those people who spend their time testing every limits in place regarding what they could do. Mostly it was people setting up an account just to chat, no go games, and they would troll for hours. They go so far as to pride themself of the bad reactions they get from being aggressive and put quote of people losing their temper and yelling at them in their profile.
And what astonish me is that those people have followers.
It must be hard to be a moderator with those people around sometimes. "But, Admin_002, what is wrong with me correcting the spelling of every word this non english speaking new comer wrote instead of helping him out. There certainly is no rules again that !? It is not my fault if he quit !"
Or the kind of conversation that make my eyes bleed :
Player A : So my cat landed in my bath, is it safe to dry it with the microwave ? Most of the cats hate to be wet.
Troll : that is not true, my uncle's cat likes to take showers.
Player B : Yeah my cat drinks from the sink.
Player C : once my cat jumped from the second floor and landed in a bush.
Player D : my cat can lick his own balls.
Troll : see player A, there is a wikipedia article on tiger in micronesia who bath into open sea.
Player A has left the room *cat exploded in the microwave*
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_VfSl0iGAus
Welcome to the Internet. Learn to deal with it or don't use it. Pretty much the only realistic alternative is no talking at all. This is not going to change.
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Re: Why do KGS admins let the EGR be such a den of stupidity
High level go players have fans. Why would it surprise you that high quality trollers also have followers?
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Re: Why do KGS admins let the EGR be such a den of stupidity
One day I saw someone enter a high dan game and asked "If a hen and a half can lay an egg and a half in a day and a half, how many hens does it take to lay six eggs in six days?" then went quiet.quantumf wrote:High level go players have fans. Why would it surprise you that high quality trollers also have followers?
There was utter pandemonium for the next fifteen minutes. It was an amazing performance.
Btw, see the straight dope if you want the answer, though it's easy enough if you don't just blurt out the first thing that comes to mind.
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Re: Why do KGS admins let the EGR be such a den of stupidity
hyperpape wrote:...then went quiet.
There was utter pandemonium for the next fifteen minutes. It was an amazing performance.
LOL
that's awesome. an expert troll !
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Re: Why do KGS admins let the EGR be such a den of stupidity
I rarely troll intentionally--whether I do so by accident is for others to judge--but a while ago, I decided that sufficiently advanced trolling is indistinguishable from constructive behavior (see also the B1 type of bandit discussed in "the basic laws of human stupidity" http://www.ecotopia.com/webpress/stupidity/) . This case doesn't quite reach that level, but it was still much more interesting than the discussion going on at the time.
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Re: Why do KGS admins let the EGR be such a den of stupidity
hyperpape wrote:One day I saw someone enter a high dan game and asked "If a hen and a half can lay an egg and a half in a day and a half, how many hens does it take to lay six eggs in six days?" then went quiet.quantumf wrote:High level go players have fans. Why would it surprise you that high quality trollers also have followers?
There was utter pandemonium for the next fifteen minutes. It was an amazing performance.
Forgive me, but the image was just too perfect not to use.
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