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Re: I feel violated...

Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2011 3:18 pm
by karaklis
topazg wrote:Tygem .... is .... awesome .... so much blood!

Could you post an sgf plz? :cool:

Re: I feel violated...

Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2011 3:58 pm
by topazg
karaklis wrote:
topazg wrote:Tygem .... is .... awesome .... so much blood!

Could you post an sgf plz? :cool:


Sure, and I promise I'm resetting my rank before I play any more games (probably to 2k, and see how that goes - I hate entering anywhere as a dan rank).

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Re: I feel violated...

Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2011 4:10 pm
by nagano
topazg wrote:
karaklis wrote: Could you post an sgf plz? :cool:


Sure, and I promise I'm resetting my rank before I play any more games (probably to 2k, and see how that goes - I hate entering anywhere as a dan rank).


Please set your rank to at least 1-2 dan. I have stable 2D and 3D accounts on Tygem, but I'm only 1K KGS (Though I will admit I haven't played on KGS very long).

Re: I feel violated...

Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2011 4:22 pm
by topazg
nagano wrote:Please set your rank to at least 1-2 dan. I have stable 2D and 3D accounts on Tygem, but I'm only 1K KGS (Though I will admit I haven't played on KGS very long).


Ok, I've reset to 1d, I hope you're right :-?

Re: I feel violated...

Posted: Sun Mar 20, 2011 10:10 am
by mayweed
I've just installed the english client to try it out. That's really neat a client. But there's really a lot of sandbaggers.

I'm what we could call a weak player (15k-for-life kind of player), I really stop believe I could ever be strong, but on that server, my first two games were against a 18k who won 10 games played all against 1d-4d players and one loss against a 6d.

It's me or there's a problem with the ranking system in there?

Otherwise, a lot of bloody fun...

Re: I feel violated...

Posted: Sun Mar 20, 2011 10:44 am
by SinK
Do they do a mac client? It would seem logical if they have an iPad version but I can't find it if they do.

Re: I feel violated...

Posted: Sun Mar 20, 2011 11:24 am
by Rafa
mayweed wrote:I've just installed the english client to try it out. That's really neat a client. But there's really a lot of sandbaggers.

I'm what we could call a weak player (15k-for-life kind of player), I really stop believe I could ever be strong, but on that server, my first two games were against a 18k who won 10 games played all against 1d-4d players and one loss against a 6d.

It's me or there's a problem with the ranking system in there?

Otherwise, a lot of bloody fun...


I don“t think its the ranking system, there really a lot of sandbaggers at lower levels (at least on the chinese server which was where i played the most).
On a second note 15k isnt really that weak... atleast to me it isnt, and you can get stronger just believe in it and continue playing go you will get stronger, if you want i can go over your games and give some pointers.

Re: I feel violated...

Posted: Sun Mar 20, 2011 5:59 pm
by rubin427
SinK wrote:Do they do a mac client?


I don't think so.

SinK wrote:It would seem logical if they have an iPad version but I can't find it if they do.


Kind of. But on the other hand, consider that their ipad app is limited functionality. It's not the full desktop client. So there may or may not be a significant amount of *extra* work to release a mac client.

Re: I feel violated...

Posted: Mon Mar 21, 2011 6:10 pm
by Dusk Eagle
Just to note, I'm 1 dan KGS but am 3-0 on Tygem as a 1 dan. I think Tygem 1 dans are weaker than KGD 1 dans, so someone like topazg is easily 2-3 dan.

As for a Mac client for Tygem, I am unaware of one existing, but if you can set up Wine on your Mac then you could use Tygem just fine.

Re: I feel violated...

Posted: Mon Mar 21, 2011 9:06 pm
by nagano
mayweed wrote:I really stop believe I could ever be strong,
Rafa wrote:you can get stronger just believe in it and continue playing go you will get stronger, if you want i can go over your games and give some pointers
I think that contrary to popular belief, almost anything can be learned. I'd even go so far as to say that I think intelligence in the traditional sense hardly exists. Here's evidence. As far as reviewing some of your games, I'll do that if you'd like.

Re: I feel violated...

Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2011 7:24 am
by rubin427
Dusk Eagle wrote:
As for a Mac client for Tygem, I am unaware of one existing, but if you can set up Wine on your Mac then you could use Tygem just fine.


I realize the vast majority of mac and linux users are using wine. The option I'm using is to run windows in a vmware virtual machine (VMWare Fusion). The primary motivator for this approach is the large number of Korean websites that aren't quite right without internet explorer. As usual, there is no shortage of ways to get from point A to point B.

nagano wrote:I'd even go so far as to say that I think intelligence in the traditional sense hardly exists. Here's evidence.


I've been hearing about, and ignoring, dual-n-back for maybe four years...
You've convinced me to finally try it...

Re: I feel violated...

Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2011 11:50 am
by nagano
Remarkable, as I haven't yet tried it myself! :)

Re: I feel violated...

Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2011 12:25 pm
by Stable
I put a starting rank of 2k, have been battered in both games so far. :)
I am on TG as VVolf if anyone wants to say hi. Stable was taken!?! (And I thought it was so unusual...)

Re: I feel violated...

Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2011 12:31 pm
by Kirby
When I lose on Tygem, I sometimes have moments where I say to myself, "This is so stupid. I was definitely ahead, and I just made an oversight, so he got some stones there.".

This happens to me more on Tygem than on KGS. I think playing on both servers can make you more well-rounded.

Re: I feel violated...

Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2011 10:51 pm
by nagano
Kirby wrote:When I lose on Tygem, I sometimes have moments where I say to myself, "This is so stupid. I was definitely ahead, and I just made an oversight, so he got some stones there.".

This happens to me more on Tygem than on KGS. I think playing on both servers can make you more well-rounded.
Interesting, I've found this to sometimes be true for me on KGS, but this is probably because the Asian servers are the norm for me. I definitely agree that it's good to play against all styles.