Life In 19x19

EiggHead wrote:

SmoothOper wrote:
I can place my handicap stones wherever I want. If they feel they need to resign so be it, but next time there will be fewer handicaps on the board.

I'm curious what you think bullying and disrespect will accomplish beyond confirmation of your paranoia?

Not only do they want to tell you where to put your stones, but they want to be respected for it too.

SmoothOper wrote:I can place my handicap stones wherever I want. If they feel they need to resign so be it, but next time there will be fewer handicaps on the board.

Actually, in a tournament, you'll lose by forfeit, and in an informal game, they won't play you any more. What do you gain from this again?

topazg wrote:

SmoothOper wrote:I can place my handicap stones wherever I want. If they feel they need to resign so be it, but next time there will be fewer handicaps on the board.

Actually, in a tournament, you'll lose by forfeit, and in an informal game, they won't play you any more. What do you gain from this again?

I think its clear he is out to gain a narcissistic sense of righteouness. No matter the rules, nor tradition, no sports(games)manship, no even manners ...

I'm done rubbernecking this car-wreck.

I think it's just violent lack of understanding combined with a strong desire for free placement. End of story.

Well now that everyone has come to the understanding that the rules allow for free handicaps...

SmoothOper wrote:Well now that everyone has come to the understanding that the rules allow for free handicaps...

... only when explicitly specified ...

Yes, now we've come to this agreement, let's talk about other stuff. Like this traditional handicap game at http://www.lifein19x19.com/forum/viewto ... f=4&t=5848

I had free placement, but decided for the traditional placement instead for that one

I dunno what your hang up is or what club you go to but if you want to explore some sort of opening style with a stronger player I'm sure they would have no problem discussing with you. Going over joseki continuations is pretty common at clubs because you don't have to setup a giant board situation and they are situations that most people that have played for a while are familiar with.

I'll also reiterate the other person's suggestion to play even, you quoted him and continued talking about being forced to play star points. You will lose, but you will learn a lot (esp opening style)

People will be less willing to do this though if you're really angry all the time.

badukJr wrote:I dunno what your hang up is or what club you go to but if you want to explore some sort of opening style with a stronger player I'm sure they would have no problem discussing with you. Going over joseki continuations is pretty common at clubs because you don't have to setup a giant board situation and they are situations that most people that have played for a while are familiar with.

I'll also reiterate the other person's suggestion to play even, you quoted him and continued talking about being forced to play star points. You will lose, but you will learn a lot (esp opening style)

People will be less willing to do this though if you're really angry all the time.

Well I would prove that alternate Fuseki are playable and winnable except narrow minded traditional players try to make Fuseki against the rules, so why not rub their noses in it?

SmoothOper wrote:so why not rub their noses in it?

It will give you fewer opportunities to play stronger players and so improve slower.
Become stronger than them first. Then you can really rub their noses in it!

Revenge is a dish best served cold. -- Old Klingon Proverb

MOD: Ok, to summarize the points on this thread --

Under the AGA rules, you can have free handicaps if both players agree to it but they are not compelled to play with free handicaps. Normally, most people follow the traditional handicaps. SmoothOper would like to explore alternative non 4-4 joseki at his club rather than just online so he will somehow have to convince his fellow club members to do so. SmoothOper expresses his annoyance that members of his club would not cooperate. Many people on the forum point out that most people would follow traditional handicap as a norm.

I don't see any more point in continuing the arguments on this thread so I will now lock this thread.