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Re: #178 - magicwand vs topazg
Posted: Mon Aug 27, 2012 4:50 pm
by Magicwand
let me know if you disagree.
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Re: #178 - magicwand vs topazg
Posted: Mon Aug 27, 2012 9:10 pm
by Jedo
Re: #178 - magicwand vs topazg
Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2012 1:14 am
by topazg
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Did you consider the double approach instead of 33?
Yeah, although normally I'll do that when I simply want to propose a switch of direction, or in a high handicap game to make things messy. I think Black is strong enough on both sides here to simply make this unpleasant:
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Re: #178 - magicwand vs topazg
Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2012 2:11 am
by Magicwand
D14
Re: #178 - magicwand vs topazg
Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2012 2:17 am
by topazg
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Border of two moyos. Other points I kinda want:
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Re: #178 - magicwand vs topazg
Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2012 2:32 am
by Magicwand
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Re: #178 - magicwand vs topazg
Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2012 3:39 am
by topazg
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Particularly with the stones high, this feels worth responding to, as the 3-3 has a big followup if he ignores that too:
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Re: #178 - magicwand vs topazg
Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2012 4:54 am
by Magicwand
Re: #178 - magicwand vs topazg
Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2012 4:58 am
by topazg
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Mmm, maybe I was mistaken. Either way, the point of this was to create a threat, and it still seems big, whereas MW's latest move doesn't actually really threaten anything. It's an important point, but I'm not convinced Black did better taking
then White taking it and Black protecting the corner.
Re: #178 - magicwand vs topazg
Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2012 5:03 am
by Magicwand
Q17 block
Re: #178 - magicwand vs topazg
Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2012 5:07 am
by topazg
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This was a puzzling position for me to play. There are a few considerations around it, but primarily I'm playing to ward off an invasion on the right hand side by increasing territory and thickness. It looks fairly hard to ignore (although of course I need to respond if he extends) due to:
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Re: #178 - magicwand vs topazg
Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2012 5:51 am
by Magicwand
Re: #178 - magicwand vs topazg
Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2012 5:58 am
by topazg
Thinking cap time!!
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Re: #178 - magicwand vs topazg
Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2012 6:07 am
by topazg
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Aiming towards:
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Re: #178 - magicwand vs topazg
Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2012 6:20 am
by Magicwand
P8 jump
then White taking it and Black protecting the corner.