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Re: Goban buying advice
Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2013 2:20 pm
by zslane
Along the lines of goban buying advice, can anyone recommend a good source of floor goban made from Katsura? The only seller I've come across is Tengudo.jp, who I have dealt with before with good success, but they only have 3-sun and 5-sun options, and I'm looking for 4-sun.
Re: Goban buying advice
Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2013 3:02 pm
by msgreg
There appears to be a 14-cm (4.6 sun or 46 bu) Katsura at
kiseido.com (look for B125)
Re: Goban buying advice
Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2013 4:51 pm
by kill0
As promised, here are some pictures of my reversible, 0.5" Shin Kaya Go board and size-36 glass stones from Go Game Guru. Not sure if the iphone photos do justice- it's a pretty and portable board with a nice color.
Re: Goban buying advice
Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2013 5:03 pm
by kill0
These are the pictures of the Hyuga Kaya table goban (1.75-sun, 4 piece composite), extra-large Sakura gosu and size-34 jitsuyo stones from Kurokigoishi. Needless to say, these are masterpieces ! I am going to feel very guilty losing my first 100 (?) games on this
Enjoy -
Re: Goban buying advice
Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2013 5:07 pm
by Bonobo
Now I’m jealous again, kill0! You even got clamshell stones
BTW it might be good to
Re: Goban buying advice
Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2013 5:23 pm
by kill0
Bonobo wrote:Now I’m jealous again, kill0! You even got clamshell stones
BTW it might be good to
Thanks for the tip on the hide tags !
Have now edited it appropriately.
Re: Goban buying advice
Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2013 12:40 am
by penfold
That hyuga kaya board is drool worthy.
Congrats!
Re: Goban buying advice
Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2013 10:17 pm
by zslane
This weekend I ordered my first go set featuring a kaya table goban and shell stones:
- Kaya goban size #20 (55mm)
- Slate & shell stones size #36 (10mm)
- Mahogany bowls
- Paulownia cover + cloth cover
I can't wait!
Re: Goban buying advice
Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2013 10:30 pm
by tchan001
Congrats on your kaya goban. Kaya isn't just beautiful to look at, it also has a pleasant sweet smell.
Re: Goban buying advice
Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2013 9:37 pm
by Annihilist
kill0 wrote:These are the pictures of the Hyuga Kaya table goban (1.75-sun, 4 piece composite), extra-large Sakura gosu and size-34 jitsuyo stones from Kurokigoishi. Needless to say, these are masterpieces ! I am going to feel very guilty losing my first 100 (?) games on this
Enjoy -
Are the lines engraved, or painted?
I love slate stones, they look amazing from here.
Re: Goban buying advice
Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2013 9:17 am
by bogiesan
badukJr wrote:Is it just me or is there some inverse relationship between strength and amount of equipment ordered?
I am that statistical anomaly. I have four or five sets of stones and bowls, two or three boards, a couple of portable sets and I will
never be any good at go.
After my first set forty years ago, I have acquired interesting equipment spontaneously. Quite by accident I have stumbled across huge discounts and purchased stuff from acquaintances who were no longer playing.
Re: Goban buying advice
Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2013 9:23 am
by Alguien
bogiesan wrote:badukJr wrote:Is it just me or is there some inverse relationship between strength and amount of equipment ordered?
I am that statistical anomaly. I have four or five sets of stones and bowls, two or three boards, a couple of portable sets and I will
never be any good at go.
We must have different definitions for "inverse relationship".
Re: Goban buying advice
Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2013 12:50 pm
by palapiku
lemmata wrote:One hypothesis: The people who can afford expensive equipment are probably 1) older and 2) must work hard to earn a level of income that can justify such a purchase. Age is negatively correlated with strength. Amount of work is negatively correlated with free time for study. Therefore the amount of work is negatively correlated with strength. However, this does not indicate a causal relationship in any direction between strength and possession of nice equipment.
Another hypothesis: Strong players enjoy the game itself so the equipment does not matter to them. Weak players buy expensive equipment to justify to themselves that they are serious about the game and not simply wasting their time on something they are not good at.
Re: Goban buying advice
Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2013 1:44 pm
by SoDesuNe
palapiku wrote:Another hypothesis: Strong players enjoy the game itself so the equipment does not matter to them. Weak players buy expensive equipment to justify to themselves that they are serious about the game and not simply wasting their time on something they are not good at.
Damn!
Re: Goban buying advice
Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2013 4:11 pm
by zslane
palapiku wrote:lemmata wrote:One hypothesis: The people who can afford expensive equipment are probably 1) older and 2) must work hard to earn a level of income that can justify such a purchase. Age is negatively correlated with strength. Amount of work is negatively correlated with free time for study. Therefore the amount of work is negatively correlated with strength. However, this does not indicate a causal relationship in any direction between strength and possession of nice equipment.
Another hypothesis: Strong players enjoy the game itself so the equipment does not matter to them. Weak players buy expensive equipment to justify to themselves that they are serious about the game and not simply wasting their time on something they are not good at.
I'm sure that's true for some, perhaps many. In my case, I just like to have nice things, and so if I'm going to put any money into something I enjoy, I want to spend it on the best. And if there is a variety to choose from, I would rather have one of each than wonder if I'm missing out on something nifty.
