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Posted: **Sun Jul 28, 2013 1:40 pm**

gowan wrote:Weichi (Chinese) and Igo (Japanese) mean exactly the same thing, "surrounding game". Even the characters used to write the words are variants of one another. I don't know what the Korean Hanja are for baduk, probably the same again.

I don't believe that baduk has official hanja. Many Korean words are rooted from chinese characters, but as far as I know, baduk is not one of them.

Also, I agree that 囲 could be said to correspond to "surround", but I think that 碁 is not as general purpose as the english word, "game", used in more specific contexts (eg. igo, shogi).

Posted: **Sun Jul 28, 2013 1:40 pm**

Bonobo wrote:

Nice !! Is that your disc and player?

Posted: **Sun Jul 28, 2013 2:36 pm**

Kuopio wrote:Nice !! Is that your disc and player?

Posted: **Sun Jul 28, 2013 3:55 pm**

Kuopio wrote:Whatever!! Now I just want to get rid of Chinese go.

First a little bit weird, then a little bit homophobic, now hating on whole countries. And we're only on page 2.

Are we taking wagers on how long it will be before an admin needs to comment/ edit/ lock/ delete?

It's not your forum. Please stop asking people to leave.

Posted: **Sun Jul 28, 2013 3:57 pm**

wineandgolover wrote:
Kuopio wrote:Whatever!! Now I just want to get rid of Chinese go.

First a little bit weird, then a little bit homophobic, now hating on whole countries. And we're only on page 2.

Are we taking wagers on how long it will be before an admin needs to comment/ edit/ lock/ delete?

It's not your forum. Please stop asking people to leave.

In his defense, I think he means "post" rather than forum.

Posted: **Sun Jul 28, 2013 4:55 pm**

It seems like the OP's posts now require approval - quick action by the mods! I was actually expecting him making his dislike of Americans known first.

Posted: **Sun Jul 28, 2013 5:39 pm**

wineandgolover wrote:
Kuopio wrote:Whatever!! Now I just want to get rid of Chinese go.

First a little bit weird, then a little bit homophobic, now hating on whole countries. And we're only on page 2.

Are we taking wagers on how long it will be before an admin needs to comment/ edit/ lock/ delete?

It's not your forum. Please stop asking people to leave.

Obviously, this Japanese lover may has been insulted by someone in Chinese forum and starts to propagate his theory of Japan go.I m just wondering why he keeps pushing people who disagree with his thought out of forum and claims this forum belongs to him?Thats totally absurd. In addition,he seems to be a little bit racist.

Posted: **Sun Jul 28, 2013 6:11 pm**

Shhhhh. Go and look at this: Aji’s Quest ;-)

(And did you really register for that comment, Ronon? Hello, I’m Tom, who are you?)

Posted: **Sun Jul 28, 2013 6:26 pm**

Bonobo wrote:Shhhhh. Go and look at this: Aji’s Quest

(And did you really register for that comment, Ronon? Hello, I’m Tom, who are you?)

is that really matter to u? wats the point

Posted: **Sun Jul 28, 2013 6:58 pm**

This thread makes me feel drunk.

Posted: **Sun Jul 28, 2013 6:59 pm**

csobod wrote:This thread makes me feel drunk.

Sorry! I hope you get better!!! :blackeye:

Posted: **Sun Jul 28, 2013 7:02 pm**

Don't worry, I foresee locking soon

Posted: **Sun Jul 28, 2013 7:40 pm**

Kuopio, perhaps you can tell us why you believe Japanese Go to be superior to Chinese Go. Could it be the longer time limits common in Japanese tournaments, which of course allows players to find moves that are not only functional, but aesthetically pleasing as well? Or is it the equipment used in Japan, which I believe to be very beautiful to look at? Could it be Takemiya Masaki's "Cosmic" style of play? Ohtake Hideo's predilection for beautiful plays? Or could it be the "non-style" play of Cho Chikun? Or is it the games of Dôsaku Hon'inbô, whose collection of kifu I've been searching for the longest but have not been able to find :mad:

Just last night I replayed through the 1846 game between Shûsaku and Gen'an Inseki, and I must say that I was amazed at the simplicity of the plays.

Of course there are some good things about Chinese Go (which can be discussed on another thread), but as you may already know most of the world is more familiar with Japanese Go. In fact, most of the mainstream Go literature in Western countries is of Japanese origin. So, I respect your preference for Japanese Go. Now I would like for you to talk to me about it.

Posted: **Sun Jul 28, 2013 7:54 pm**

moyoaji wrote: I don't even know what to think of this Chinese game: http://www.go4go.net/go/games/sgfview/34787 It felt like white didn't even realize what was happening until it was way too late.

Seems like a pro who shares one of my earlier defects as a Go player, namely not playing globally. Looks like Zhang Yabo was overconfident at the time and did not do enough to challenge Black for across-the-board influence. White had mostly overconcentrated groups and all of them on the left side of the board. An early invasion of Black's right side would've improved White's chances for victory. As well, White should've made good use of the hoshi on the upper left while there was still a chance.

That being said, a bad Chinese pro game is still more interesting and entertaining than the best amateur games I've seen.

All those years of hard work at the qiyuan are not in vain. I would love to be able to calculate the value of board positions just like the lousiest of these pros.

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