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Re: Teamovitch #1
Posted: Mon Jan 24, 2011 8:24 am
by fwiffo
Sorry, I was not able to post this weekend - my suggestion:
$$Bcm33
Click Here To Show Diagram Code [go]$$Bcm33I like Jedo and Jordus's moves both better than this, but getting out further ahead seems reasonable.
Re: Teamovitch #1
Posted: Tue Jan 25, 2011 1:38 am
by Joaz Banbeck
$$Bc
Click Here To Show Diagram Code [go]$$BcTo teammates and observers:
We don't care if white goes westward. They would be pushing the cart before the horse, and we would be getting fifth rank territory like this:
$$Wc
Click Here To Show Diagram Code [go]$$Wc...or like this:
$$Wc
Click Here To Show Diagram Code [go]$$WcThat means that the suggestion of 'a' and 'b' below are low priority:
$$Bc
Click Here To Show Diagram Code [go]$$BcFurthermore, white can play this:
$$Bc a and b are miai
Click Here To Show Diagram Code [go]$$Bc a and b are miaiWe really have to extend northward.
So I have to go with the only move that does not get our group trapped.
To observers only:
What I wanted was one of these moves:
$$Bc
Click Here To Show Diagram Code [go]$$Bc
Re: Teamovitch #1
Posted: Tue Jan 25, 2011 1:45 am
by tj86430
White suggestion:
$$Bc
Click Here To Show Diagram Code [go]$$BcI just can not think of anything else
Re: Teamovitch #1
Posted: Thu Jan 27, 2011 5:15 pm
by topazg
$$Wcm34
Click Here To Show Diagram Code [go]$$Wcm34
Re: Teamovitch #1
Posted: Thu Jan 27, 2011 7:50 pm
by Jordus
Black Internal Chat:
Had a second to look and my first instinct tells me to go here....
$$Bcm
Click Here To Show Diagram Code [go]$$Bcmthe reason is simple. peep and create a wall...
$$Bcm
Click Here To Show Diagram Code [go]$$BcmWhether this is good or not... I'll have to take a few minutes to think about, but I am in class right now so I kind of don't have the time
... Good thing I am in college and not catholic school... My wrists would be burning with ruler smacks lol...
*EDIT*
Got a chance to check it out for another minute... Might be better to extend the other group first...
$$Bcm
Click Here To Show Diagram Code [go]$$Bcmsomething like this...... 3 can be played at (a) also..
Re: Teamovitch #1
Posted: Mon Jan 31, 2011 4:21 pm
by Jordus
*Bump*
Re: Teamovitch #1
Posted: Mon Jan 31, 2011 4:42 pm
by Jordus
Black Suggestion:
$$Bcm35
Click Here To Show Diagram Code [go]$$Bcm35I decided to play at one since our focus thus far has been on extending that group. I expect white to extend leaving us the chance to play (a) and attack their group from the other side giving us a nice little wall.
Re: Teamovitch #1
Posted: Mon Jan 31, 2011 5:47 pm
by Joaz Banbeck
$$Bcm35
Click Here To Show Diagram Code [go]$$Bcm35It is the only reasonable move here, so I'm not going to wait for the AWOLs to suggest anything.
Re: Teamovitch #1
Posted: Mon Jan 31, 2011 5:57 pm
by Magicwand
for obs only:
i am thinking this is the only sensable move.
black can live separate even if he get disconnected.
$$Bcm35
Click Here To Show Diagram Code [go]$$Bcm35
Re: Teamovitch #1
Posted: Fri Feb 04, 2011 1:31 pm
by Redundant
Re: Teamovitch #1
Posted: Fri Feb 04, 2011 2:38 pm
by Chew Terr
$$Bcm35
Click Here To Show Diagram Code [go]$$Bcm35This point looks good to me. It helps make sure we can get out, it's fairly sente (hane at head AND foot would give us too much power). We don't lose much by taking it, as black will want this point, otherwise. I considered N9, C6, and underccuts in the bottom right, but I think we can take this first without harming ourselves too much.
Re: Teamovitch #1
Posted: Fri Feb 04, 2011 2:46 pm
by topazg
$$Bcm35
Click Here To Show Diagram Code [go]$$Bcm35Team:
Re: Teamovitch #1
Posted: Fri Feb 04, 2011 3:50 pm
by Jordus
Black Internal Chat:
I think we need to make sure out stones stay connected...
$$Bcm
Click Here To Show Diagram Code [go]$$Bcmwe still have the option to try for the wall but I think it is best to make sure that our stones on our current "running" group are safe.
example of wall...
$$Bcm
Click Here To Show Diagram Code [go]$$Bcm
Re: Teamovitch #1
Posted: Fri Feb 04, 2011 6:50 pm
by Joaz Banbeck
To observers:
Jordus wrote: I think we need to make sure out stones stay connected...
$$Bc
Click Here To Show Diagram Code [go]$$BcIf he wants to maintain the connection - which is not a bad idea - it can be done in sente:
$$Bc
Click Here To Show Diagram Code [go]$$Bc$$Bc
Click Here To Show Diagram Code [go]$$Bc...and I think that it is sente becuse of this:
$$Bc If 2 tenukis
Click Here To Show Diagram Code [go]$$Bc If 2 tenukisBut then...
There are possibilities that the aji may be better used from below like this:
$$Bc
Click Here To Show Diagram Code [go]$$Bc...especially if we have played around 'a'.
So it may be best to leave the aji and play like this:
$$Bc
Click Here To Show Diagram Code [go]$$Bc
Re: Teamovitch #1
Posted: Mon Feb 07, 2011 9:19 am
by fwiffo
Black suggestion:
$$Bcm35
Click Here To Show Diagram Code [go]$$Bcm35Allowing that hane would feel really, really horrible. It would be so bad. Like that nightmare where you show up at school and you haven't studied for the test and you forgot your pants.
The only alternatives would be moves that force a white response and none jump out at me.
... Good thing I am in college and not catholic school... My wrists would be burning with ruler smacks lol... 
