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Loons
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by Loons Thu May 15, 2014 6:29 pm
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Can we use this as a reference? It doesn't have a dodgy missing move in the top right which simplifies black's moyo. I think white is better here though. How is what better or worse for whom than this?
skydyr
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by skydyr Fri May 16, 2014 9:20 am
Loons wrote: $$c
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Can we use this as a reference? It doesn't have a dodgy missing move in the top right which simplifies black's moyo. I think white is better here though. How is what better or worse for whom than this?
I thought the discussion centered around tewari of the position with a white wedge on the right? If black doesn't have to respond to it and deal with the stone, it's a very different position. I certainly feel black is much better off in this position than in the previous one, but it still feels cramped to me, and
feels really slow.
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by Loons Fri May 16, 2014 9:36 pm
skydyr wrote:
I thought the discussion centered around tewari of the position with a white wedge on the right? If black doesn't have to respond to it and deal with the stone, it's a very different position. I certainly feel black is much better off in this position than in the previous one, but it still feels cramped to me, and
feels really slow.
A brief history of the recent conversation :
Pippen suggested this tewari (involving ignoring a wedge approach)
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Illluck and I criticized the move order for not being good, which Pippen disagreed with.
I suggested what I felt was a preferable set of moves compared to Pippen's tewari moves (this is more or less the whole point of tewari right, whether one would have preferred to play differently).
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by Pippen Tue Sep 16, 2014 2:17 pm
See my previous post. Any new ideas/opinions?
feels really slow.