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Re: Deliberate Practice
Posted: Wed Sep 30, 2015 5:40 pm
by studying
Game 48
In today's game, I felt that I lacked fighting spirit. I missed several opportunities to go on the attack and/or exploit bad shape by my opponent, and instead had to wait until scoring to claim victory. That said, my reading felt sharper and I felt like I was doing a better job of avoiding tempting but wrong moves that I would have played in the past. I'm particularly happy with that given that my opponent was playing so fast, which normally can throw me off and encourage me to just play on (sometimes bad) instinct. Here's the review:
https://gokibitz.com/kifu/Vkl5yOHyl
Re: Deliberate Practice
Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2015 4:04 pm
by studying
Game 49
I felt I played pretty well in this game against a KGS 2d, with the exception of a complete lack of concentration for 2 moves in the middle-game. That lapse should have cost me the game, but I managed to squeeze out a victory after my opponent failed to capitalize. I gave this one a bit more of a thorough review, and still caught quite a few mistakes, so (obviously) there's plenty more work to do. Here's the review:
https://gokibitz.com/kifu/4yYcWrTkl
Re: Deliberate Practice
Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2015 6:57 pm
by skydyr
No claims to correctness, but a couple thoughts:
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you need p3 I think. Black's K4 is one space too far, and P3 make miai of living easily in the corner or getting a good base on the side with few worries.
At move 100, did you consider invading the right side around R12 or just taking the 3-3 point? It's not clear to me that black's move in the center should have been answered, and black looks pretty thin here after not responding earlier.
Re: Deliberate Practice
Posted: Wed Oct 07, 2015 4:02 am
by studying
skydyr wrote:At

you need p3 I think. Black's K4 is one space too far, and P3 make miai of living easily in the corner or getting a good base on the side with few worries.
Hmm, I'm not sure I like the living in the corner option for White. It feels a bit like what happened to Black later, where the opponent ends up with influence over a massive part of the board. For example, something like:
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skydyr wrote:At move 100, did you consider invading the right side around R12 or just taking the 3-3 point? It's not clear to me that black's move in the center should have been answered, and black looks pretty thin here after not responding earlier.
Something like these moves was what I hoped to do later, but for the time being I felt Black's move was a reasonably strong attack on the White stones. (The tiger's mouth that I played is less about saving the one stone and more about threatening to connect to the left.) If White plays tenuki, a Black play at N2 looks really annoying to me.
Re: Deliberate Practice
Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2015 6:01 pm
by studying
Three games for this post. I keep trying to find games on KGS, but after 5-10 minutes of sitting watching the Automatch spin with no results each time, I've instead headed back to Tygem or IGS to play. These games aren't terribly impressive though: one unlucky loss, one lucky win, and one straight-forward loss (where I once again struggled as White). Maybe it's just rust from taking some time off, but I feel like my progress has stalled. I'm going to need to figure out something to jump-start things again.
Game 50
https://gokibitz.com/kifu/Ey0anAsxg
Game 51
https://gokibitz.com/kifu/N13AnRigx
Game 52
https://gokibitz.com/kifu/VJAC3Riel
Re: Deliberate Practice
Posted: Sun Aug 21, 2016 11:26 am
by studying
Game B1
I'm returning to Go after about a year off to explore other hobbies, and I'm hoping I can again find the discipline for some deliberate practice to get back to my previous skill level and (ideally) beyond. I dusted off a practice Tygem account and played this game, which served as a reminder of just how important reading is. Shape ideas and directional instinct feel like they're coming back pretty quick, but I'll need to keep hitting the tsumego books to sharpen up my reading skills.
GoKibitz version here:
https://gokibitz.com/kifu/EkrsoCf5b
Re: Deliberate Practice
Posted: Sun Aug 21, 2016 9:57 pm
by ez4u
In the upper right answer S18 with R19, no? The problem seems to be R18 instead of S18.
Re: Deliberate Practice
Posted: Fri Aug 26, 2016 4:38 am
by studying
ez4u wrote:In the upper right answer S18 with R19, no? The problem seems to be R18 instead of S18.
Yes, you're exactly right. I played around with some more variations and occasionally ended up with a ko, but the situation isn't as bad as I thought.
Re: Deliberate Practice
Posted: Sat Aug 27, 2016 10:49 am
by studying
At the same time I'm getting back into Go, I'm also trying to get back into running after a similar length break, and I'm finding that doing both at the same time has a few very nice benefits. Most notably, I think that the improvement-curves for each are similar (months, not weeks to see real improvement), but the running feedback is more immediate and precise than a vague win or loss that depends on dozens of moves or mistakes. It's just as easy to catch myself saying, "I've been training/practicing for 2 weeks now, surely I can" (a) run a sub-20:00 5K or (b) play like an 8dan, and both are equally ludicrous. However, I can head outside and in 15 minutes prove to myself just how far off I am about my running improvement, and that's a nice check on my dreams of rapid go improvement too.
That said, regular (deliberate) practice is still the key to each, so here's today's game:
https://gokibitz.com/kifu/VkxcJ65cZ
Game B2
A few takeaways from my review:
- My reading still needs work
- Playing for territory can be effective
- Don't be afraid to play the solid move. It's not as slow as it looks
As always, comments/corrections welcome.
Re: Deliberate Practice
Posted: Sun Aug 28, 2016 11:16 am
by studying
I'm pretty thrilled to report another game where I was reasonably happy with my play. I missed a few chances to wrap things up earlier, but overall, I'm enjoying embracing the territorial style. I think the same three takeaways from the last game apply again here:
Game B3
If you want to jump straight to my questions,

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seem like the most interesting positions to me.
Here is the GoKibitz link:
https://gokibitz.com/kifu/4yWmuzn5b
Posted: Sun Aug 28, 2016 11:56 am
by EdLee
Hi studying,
Which other hobbies ?
Welcome back and good luck !

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Posted: Sun Aug 28, 2016 1:34 pm
by studying
EdLee wrote:Which other hobbies ?
A whole mix of things. I spent a month or two working on writing a novel, and a month or two focusing on my small bonsai collection and garden. I also spent some time with the stereotypical go player hobbies of chess and computer programming. Finally, they're not hobbies, but since my last set of games I also managed to get married and a job promotion! Things feel a bit calmer now, which may be why it's been easier for me to decide to return to the game.
Posted: Sun Aug 28, 2016 2:22 pm
by EdLee
Wow, congrats !
Re: Deliberate Practice
Posted: Sun Aug 28, 2016 10:03 pm
by ez4u
At 19 how about pushing up?
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At 27 shouldn't Black simply threaten the invasion while widening the bottom? The direct invasion greatly strengthens White for only a few additional points.
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At 156 White played 1 below and Black answered at 3. However, if Black connects the ko, it does not seem that White can live. Did I miss something?
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Re: Deliberate Practice
Posted: Mon Aug 29, 2016 6:25 am
by jeromie
studying wrote:At the same time I'm getting back into Go, I'm also trying to get back into running after a similar length break, and I'm finding that doing both at the same time has a few very nice benefits.
This summer, I considered trying to arrange a 5k 5k, where my opponent would agree to run 5 kilometers with me before playing a game.

I think it would be fun.