86: Magicwand (4D) Vs. Jedo (2K)

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Re: 86: Magicwand (4D) Vs. Jedo (2K)

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[go]$$Wcm31
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$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


i am kinda drunk and dont wanna think too much.
i will try to end this game from this fight. i really think i can. :)
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Re: 86: Magicwand (4D) Vs. Jedo (2K)

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[go]$$Wcm31
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$$ | . . . . . X . . . X X X O O . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X O . . . . X . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . O . . . . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . X . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . O X X X O . . . . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X X O O . O , . X . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . |
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$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Alright here we go. If white tries to kill me, I think I can win.
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[go]$$Wcm31
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$$ | . . . X . . . . . , . . . . . X . . . |
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$$ | . . . , . . . O . , O O X X X X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . X X X O O O 8 . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X O . . . . X 3 2 7 X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . O . . . 6 4 O . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . X 5 9 . X . . . |
$$ | . . . O X X X O . . . . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X X O O . O , . X . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1 . . . |
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$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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[go]$$Wcm31
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$$ | . . . , . . . O . , O O X X X X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . X X X O O O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X O . . . . X 0 2 O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . O . . . X X O 1 . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . X 0 0 . X . . . |
$$ | . . . O X X X O . . . . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X X O O . O , . X 3 4 . X . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . O 6 . 7 . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . 5 . . 0 8 9 . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

I think like this I win, so white will probably compromise. I also haven't looked at all the variation. However if white dives the other way, I think he just ends up forcing me against his weak group.
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Re: 86: Magicwand (4D) Vs. Jedo (2K)

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[go]$$Wcm31
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$$ | . . . . . X . . . X X X O O . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X O . . . . X . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . O . . . . . O 9 . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . X . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . O X X X O . . . . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X X O O . O , . X . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . |
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$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


i am going after kill. if he compromise and gives me his arms and legs then i will take them..
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Re: 86: Magicwand (4D) Vs. Jedo (2K)

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Jedo wrote:
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[go]$$Wcm21
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$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . O a . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . 8 . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . O . . . . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . X . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . O X X X O . . . . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X X O O . O , . X . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . |
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$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


I think it was important before he played the move above for Black to decide if he wished to cut at 'a'. The following exchanges as played out gave Black bad shape and needlessly strengthened white's cutting stone.
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[go]$$Marked stones are bad exchange
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$$ | . . . O X X X O . . . . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X X O O . O , . X . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . |
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$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
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Re: 86: Magicwand (4D) Vs. Jedo (2K)

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for observers:
to explain why i played that peep.
it is easy to read below variation. i can not tenuki.
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[go]$$Wcm39
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$$ | . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . O . , O O X X . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . X X X O O 4 . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X O . . . . X 5 2 3 X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . O . . . . 6 O . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . X . 8 . X . . . |
$$ | . . . O X X X O . . . . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X X O O . O , . X . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . |
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$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


this peep will give me enough to give up two stone.
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[go]$$Wcm39
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$$ | . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . O . , O O X X . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . X X X O O 9 . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X O . . . . X . 2 . X 7 . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . O . . . . . O 1 3 4 8 . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . X . . . X 5 6 . |
$$ | . . . O X X X O . . . . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X X O O . O , . X . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
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[go]$$Wcm31
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
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$$ | . . . X . . . . . , . . . . . X . . . |
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$$ | . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . O . , O O X X . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . X X X O O . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X O . . . . X . 0 . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . O . . . . . O O . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . X . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . O X X X O . . . . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X X O O . O , . X . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
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$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Simply put, I can't afford to connect here. At first I thought that it was ok, but then I realized that if I connect, he can fix his throw in problem by peeping in sente, and thus will get the first move on the bottom, insuring his live and possibly my death.
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[go]$$Wcm31
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$$ | . . . X . . . . . , . . . . . X . . . |
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$$ | . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . O . , O O X X . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . X X X O O . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X O . . . . X . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . O . . . 2 1 O 9 0 . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . X . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . O X X X O . . . 4 3 O . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X X O O . O , . X . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 5 . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

This looks a disaster. As a result, I have to ignore his peep.
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[go]$$Wcm31
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . , . . . . . X . . . |
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$$ | . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . O . , O O X X . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . X X X O O 4 6 . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X O . . . . X . 0 3 X 5 . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . O . . . . . O 9 1 2 8 . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . X . . . X 7 . . |
$$ | . . . O X X X O . . . . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X X O O . O , . X . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

It's not ideal, but I can live in the corner and get some great thickness facing out.
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[go]$$Wcm41
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
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$$ | . . . X . . . . . , . . . . . X . . . |
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$$ | . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . O . , O O X X . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . X X X O O . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X O . . . . X . X . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . O . . . . . O O 1 . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . X . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . O X X X O . . . . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X X O O . O , . X . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


i am satisfied with this penetration.
i will try to get sente and attack his other group :)
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[go]$$Wcm41
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . , . . . . . X . . . |
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$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Yes, it's cut point city, but I have no choice. More comments after edit.
I would like to atari his one stone, I really would, but then it looks like he can cut me
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$$ | . . . . . X . O . . 0 9 7 O O O X . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . X . . . X O 6 . |
$$ | . . . O X X X O . . . . . O . . 4 . . |
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And I don't think I can win the race
Now here's what might happen
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$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

He doesn't really get many points, and I'm left with some thickness facing the outside, albeit with aji.
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this picture i really like so probably not going to happen
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$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . X . . . X O 7 . |
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$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


this is also very good for white. i will be happy with this.
as i said before all i want is sente.
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$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
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$$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . O . . 6 . . |
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$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

This can't be right?? These moves I've been making recently don't necessarily seem right but seem best. So at this point my corner is alive, and I don't think he can dive under my wall thank god.
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$$ | . . . . . X O . . . . X X X . X 5 . . |
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$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

I think because of his cuts he has to back down here.
As I result if he just captures I'll have to choose
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$$ | . . . . . X . O . . . . . O O O X 7 . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . X . . . X O . . |
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$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Hmm...
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$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


i expected him to atari.. then i have no choice but to take.
now i have a choice of taking the stone or..above.
i still think i can live in sente.
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$$ | . . . . . X O . . . . X X X . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . O . . . . . O O O X . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . X . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . . O X X X O . . . . . O . . O . . |
$$ | . . O X X O O . O , . X . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . O . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . 8 . . . . . |
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$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Sigh, I really wanted to play the atari, but then he kills me:
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I couldn't find any way to live after this. I briefly considered just letting the group die and moving elsewhere, but it's like 30 points, which is just too much. So if I'm gonna have to play inside, I might as well live the most profitable way, and in the most senteish way possible. I assume he'll tenuki. But I have a nice followup later.
"There are no limits. There are plateaus, but you must not stay there, you must go beyond them. If it kills you, it kills you. A man must constantly exceed his level." -- Bruce Lee
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does he have life???
i have no idea why he played there.
"The more we think we know about
The greater the unknown"

Words by neil peart, music by geddy lee and alex lifeson
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