140. Loons 1d vs Daal 6k, 4H

daal · Post by **daal** » Sun Oct 23, 2011 2:00 am

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If there's one thing I've learned so far from this Malkovitch game, it's that whoever said that it's pointless to give amateurs too much time to think must have been thinking about me. In the time that I normally could have played a dozen games, I've been carrying on a pointless debate with myself whether to play a or b. The worst thing, is that I have the horrible suspicion that one of them is infinitely preferable to the other, though I suppose that's just my self-consciousness speaking. Basically, I'm choosing a because it makes a move by white in the corner gote and pretty much permanently removes the cut. Flipping a coin however would have gotten the job done quicker.

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Loons · Post by **Loons** » Sun Oct 23, 2011 5:04 am

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daal · Post by **daal** » Thu Oct 27, 2011 2:09 am

Sorry for the delay, Loons.

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Basically, I'm only thinking about two moves; a & b.

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Other moves in the area to consider might be extensions, but they seem utterly submissive. So, how to choose? (He pulls out his coin). I had a good feeling when I saw white's last move. Seems white is going in for a fight where the results can't be all that great. But what should I be striving for? It's too early to think about killing. Should I be trying to:

a) separate or
b) surround?

To my mind, these options correspond directly to the two candidate moves. Without doing any reading, surrounding means he lives with maybe 5- 10 points, and I have potential for territory on the bottom left and the center. However, depending on who gets sente, he will be able to reduce one or both. Separating means something of his dies while the rest is running into the center. My potential territory is on the left or the right and I can continue to chase something. My gut says separate. Just letting him live seems like going too easy on white. My reading (at this stage means: "what I hope") is that if he doesn't want to be separated, I get to surround him in a smaller space than had I played b.

Loons · Post by **Loons** » Thu Nov 03, 2011 4:17 pm

Sorry about the extremely long delay.

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daal · Post by **daal** » Sat Nov 05, 2011 12:40 am

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Once again, these are my first ideas. One could just as easily say: "He has no idea."

If I recall, my last move was designed to separate the two marked stones, and a seems to do that most effectively, also reducing the aji around the triangle. Of the other moves, c seems to be the most interesting, and I tried to read it but it got too complicated for me to make any sense of it. I'd be interested in hearing how a stronger player would evaluate c. For now though, I'd rather avoid the complications which white is trying to create, and see if I can enclose and chase him. I'm vaguely thinking of blocking his running group somewhere around the shaded area and then trying to make a framework facing the marked stone. Unfortunately, this idea presumably sucks, because the marked stone is low and there is still plenty of room on the right for a white invasion, but...

I wish I had a better idea. I wonder where these good ideas come from? Atm, I just have to see what happens on the bottom.

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Loons · Post by **Loons** » Sun Nov 06, 2011 2:43 pm

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daal · Post by **daal** » Mon Nov 07, 2011 5:17 am

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My opponent's move surprises me a bit, because I thought he would make a base first. I guess though that it makes sense for him to get out into the center first. I might be able to cut off something, but I won't be able to kill it if he gets out into the open. So the question arises, should I try to stop it in it's tracks, for example with d? This depends on two things:
1)Can I afford this move? That depends on whether my groups on the top and bottom are strong enough to withstand white's counter attack. Particularly, the marked group seems vulnerable. And
2) Will letting white out put me at a severe disadvantage? Well I guess that if I stop him from making a base, that I might have the chance to cap him later. I dunno.

Again, the labeled moves are the ones that I considered. Although the saying goes don't peep if you can cut, I prefer a to c because it strengthens my corner group and I'd prefer to give white as little leverage there as possible. b would also cause complications which white could also use to isolate the corner. d seems premature, so I'm going with a, which affects the bases of two groups.

I assume he'll connect, and I see the following sequence, leaving him with more holes than me:

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Loons · Post by **Loons** » Mon Nov 14, 2011 6:13 pm

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daal · Post by **daal** » Tue Nov 22, 2011 3:04 am

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Loons · Post by **Loons** » Tue Nov 22, 2011 1:55 pm

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Bcm30 $$ +---------------------------------------+ $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . 8 O O . . O . . . . O . . . . . | $$ | . . . X . X O . . , . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X 7 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O O . O . . . . . . . . . . X . . | $$ | . . O X . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . | $$ | . . X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O X . . X X . . . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . . . . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X X X X O O . , . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . O O O O . . . . . . . O . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ +---------------------------------------+[/go]

jts · Post by **jts** » Tue Nov 22, 2011 3:10 pm

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Loons · Post by **Loons** » Tue Nov 22, 2011 4:25 pm

daal · Post by **daal** » Fri Nov 25, 2011 3:31 am

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Bcm30 $$ +---------------------------------------+ $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . 8 O O . . O . . . . O . . . . . | $$ | . . . X . X O . . , . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O O . O . 9 . . . . . . . . X . . | $$ | . . O X . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . | $$ | . . X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O X . . X X . . . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . . . . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X X X X O O . , . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . O O O O . . . . . . . O . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ +---------------------------------------+[/go]

Loons · Post by **Loons** » Fri Nov 25, 2011 1:08 pm

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Marcus · Post by **Marcus** » Fri Nov 25, 2011 1:54 pm

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140. Loons 1d vs Daal 6k, 4H

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