Kirby:
My advise you to play game that is 끈적끈적.
maintaining balance and grabing chance is the key to play such style.
also, I see that you have reading strength but you have to connect series of good moves into one long sequence.
I think you will need to read less to improve.
Your reading was way too complicated (and wrong i think).
selecting simpler variation will make your mind clearer and result less mistakes.
just a thought.
Kirby's Study Journal
-
Magicwand
- Tengen
- Posts: 4844
- Joined: Wed Apr 21, 2010 5:26 am
- Rank: Wbaduk 7D
- GD Posts: 0
- KGS: magicwand
- Tygem: magicwand
- Wbaduk: rlatkfkd
- DGS: magicwand
- OGS: magicwand
- Location: Mechanicsburg, PA
- Has thanked: 62 times
- Been thanked: 504 times
Re: Kirby's Study Journal
"The more we think we know about
The greater the unknown"
Words by neil peart, music by geddy lee and alex lifeson
The greater the unknown"
Words by neil peart, music by geddy lee and alex lifeson
-
Kirby
- Honinbo
- Posts: 9553
- Joined: Wed Feb 24, 2010 6:04 pm
- GD Posts: 0
- KGS: Kirby
- Tygem: 커비라고해
- Has thanked: 1583 times
- Been thanked: 1707 times
Re: Kirby's Study Journal
Interesting. I'm guessing that my style is not this way now, right?Magicwand wrote:My advise you to play game that is 끈적끈적.
maintaining balance and grabing chance is the key to play such style.
I don't quite understand what you mean with this part, above.Magicwand wrote: also, I see that you have reading strength but you have to connect series of good moves into one long sequence.
It's the first time I've heard the advice to read less. I guess you are saying that reading less is better than reading incorrectly. I suppose that's a good point.Magicwand wrote: I think you will need to read less to improve.
Your reading was way too complicated (and wrong i think).
selecting simpler variation will make your mind clearer and result less mistakes.
be immersed
-
skydyr
- Oza
- Posts: 2495
- Joined: Wed Aug 01, 2012 8:06 am
- GD Posts: 0
- Universal go server handle: skydyr
- Online playing schedule: When my wife is out.
- Location: DC
- Has thanked: 156 times
- Been thanked: 436 times
Re: Kirby's Study Journal
Looking at google translate, I get "sticky" for 끈적끈적, but this doesn't seem to make sense to me. Could you describe what this style looks like?Magicwand wrote: My advise you to play game that is 끈적끈적.
maintaining balance and grabing chance is the key to play such style.
-
SoDesuNe
- Gosei
- Posts: 1810
- Joined: Wed Apr 21, 2010 1:57 am
- Rank: KGS 1-dan
- GD Posts: 0
- Has thanked: 490 times
- Been thanked: 365 times
Re: Kirby's Study Journal
The first I got was:
Could be just me, though ; )
I can also take away this: Reading should be impartial. I often want something to happen and thus cloud my reading or steer it into ways which support my goal. Even if I have to admit, that my goal cannot be accomplished, I often return to the position and read it again and again.Kirby wrote:It's the first time I've heard the advice to read less. I guess you are saying that reading less is better than reading incorrectly. I suppose that's a good point.Magicwand wrote: I think you will need to read less to improve.
Your reading was way too complicated (and wrong i think).
selecting simpler variation will make your mind clearer and result less mistakes.
Could be just me, though ; )
-
Kirby
- Honinbo
- Posts: 9553
- Joined: Wed Feb 24, 2010 6:04 pm
- GD Posts: 0
- KGS: Kirby
- Tygem: 커비라고해
- Has thanked: 1583 times
- Been thanked: 1707 times
Re: Kirby's Study Journal
Sticky is the correct translation. I saw an article here[1], which is about pro player Kang Dongyun. It says that his go style is famous for being "끈적끈적". He'll often get into a disadvantageous position, but he pops back up, and turns the tables. I think that's the "stickiness" (the opponent can't push him down for good, since he keeps popping back up). It says that Kang Dongyun's weakness is the opening, but because he has 끈적끈적 style of Go, he can often win by making these kind of turnarounds.skydyr wrote:Looking at google translate, I get "sticky" for 끈적끈적, but this doesn't seem to make sense to me. Could you describe what this style looks like?Magicwand wrote: My advise you to play game that is 끈적끈적.
maintaining balance and grabing chance is the key to play such style.
From my own perspective, maybe a good English word to describe this would be "tenacious".
That being said, maybe I should study Kang Dongyun's games. If I am to have 끈적끈적 style, maybe I should see more of what that looks like.
[1]http://www.hani.co.kr/arti/sports/baduk/496132.html
be immersed
-
Kirby
- Honinbo
- Posts: 9553
- Joined: Wed Feb 24, 2010 6:04 pm
- GD Posts: 0
- KGS: Kirby
- Tygem: 커비라고해
- Has thanked: 1583 times
- Been thanked: 1707 times
Re: Kirby's Study Journal
I played against KGS 2d today. I won, but it was really lucky. It should have been capturing race, and I think he could win, maybe.
But anyway, he just let me connect, and he died.
Here's my review.
But anyway, he just let me connect, and he died.
Here's my review.
be immersed
-
Kirby
- Honinbo
- Posts: 9553
- Joined: Wed Feb 24, 2010 6:04 pm
- GD Posts: 0
- KGS: Kirby
- Tygem: 커비라고해
- Has thanked: 1583 times
- Been thanked: 1707 times
Re: Kirby's Study Journal
Problem Areas
Position 1 I think it's easier to just take a corner enclosure here: It doesn't give white as much pressure, but as white is open on both directions, I don't think I can give much pressure, anyway.
Position 2 I think I should just go one more, since I stay as one group and am not cut: Why not?
Position 3 Seems super small, as white is pretty much alive. Instead, I think I should do something like this: Position 4 I didn't read out that I could kill him - it just looked like a chance. So, I bet the entire game on trying to kill him. If I failed, my stones could die. And I think they probably should have.
Instead, I should play calmly, and reduce the center. He has about... 45 plus what he gets in the center. I have about... 40, maybe.
So there's probably still a good chance if I play good endgame.
This is an example of where I could have tried to kill, or tried to make it close and play it out. Sadly, I chose to bet the entire game on killing. It happened to work, since he gave it to me, but it probably shouldn't have.
Position 1 I think it's easier to just take a corner enclosure here: It doesn't give white as much pressure, but as white is open on both directions, I don't think I can give much pressure, anyway.
Position 2 I think I should just go one more, since I stay as one group and am not cut: Why not?
Position 3 Seems super small, as white is pretty much alive. Instead, I think I should do something like this: Position 4 I didn't read out that I could kill him - it just looked like a chance. So, I bet the entire game on trying to kill him. If I failed, my stones could die. And I think they probably should have.
Instead, I should play calmly, and reduce the center. He has about... 45 plus what he gets in the center. I have about... 40, maybe.
So there's probably still a good chance if I play good endgame.
This is an example of where I could have tried to kill, or tried to make it close and play it out. Sadly, I chose to bet the entire game on killing. It happened to work, since he gave it to me, but it probably shouldn't have.
be immersed
-
SoDesuNe
- Gosei
- Posts: 1810
- Joined: Wed Apr 21, 2010 1:57 am
- Rank: KGS 1-dan
- GD Posts: 0
- Has thanked: 490 times
- Been thanked: 365 times
Re: Kirby's Study Journal
Am I too single-minded towards the center?
I don't like 'a' because it just takes territory and has no follow-up/goal. Maybe this situation calls for a move like that, I don't know, it feels rather passive to me
I don't like 'a' because it just takes territory and has no follow-up/goal. Maybe this situation calls for a move like that, I don't know, it feels rather passive to me
-
Kirby
- Honinbo
- Posts: 9553
- Joined: Wed Feb 24, 2010 6:04 pm
- GD Posts: 0
- KGS: Kirby
- Tygem: 커비라고해
- Has thanked: 1583 times
- Been thanked: 1707 times
Re: Kirby's Study Journal
Can you explain why?Shaddy wrote:Definitely enclose that corner.
be immersed
-
Shaddy
- Lives in sente
- Posts: 1206
- Joined: Sat Apr 24, 2010 2:44 pm
- Rank: KGS 5d
- GD Posts: 0
- KGS: Str1fe, Midorisuke
- Has thanked: 51 times
- Been thanked: 192 times
Re: Kirby's Study Journal
White's best response to anything Black plays in the top left (not attachment or shoulder hit, obviously) is to one-space jump from the weak group. Where do you want your stone in the top left to be after he does that?
Edit. If Black plays knight's enclosure W can make a 1-space extension on top. Given that, I'll specify that the enclosure should be the large knight's enclosure.
Edit. If Black plays knight's enclosure W can make a 1-space extension on top. Given that, I'll specify that the enclosure should be the large knight's enclosure.
-
Kirby
- Honinbo
- Posts: 9553
- Joined: Wed Feb 24, 2010 6:04 pm
- GD Posts: 0
- KGS: Kirby
- Tygem: 커비라고해
- Has thanked: 1583 times
- Been thanked: 1707 times
Re: Kirby's Study Journal
Thanks for clarifying.Shaddy wrote:White's best response to anything Black plays in the top left (not attachment or shoulder hit, obviously) is to one-space jump from the weak group. Where do you want your stone in the top left to be after he does that?
Edit. If Black plays knight's enclosure W can make a 1-space extension on top. Given that, I'll specify that the enclosure should be the large knight's enclosure.
For some reason, I thought you were talking about enclosing the top right corner, but now I think you're talking about the top left.
If so, that makes sense to me.
be immersed
-
Bill Spight
- Honinbo
- Posts: 10905
- Joined: Wed Apr 21, 2010 1:24 pm
- Has thanked: 3651 times
- Been thanked: 3373 times
Re: Kirby's Study Journal
You didn't consider this play?
(I see that Shaddy has made the same point.
)
(I see that Shaddy has made the same point.
)The Adkins Principle:
At some point, doesn't thinking have to go on?
— Winona Adkins
Visualize whirled peas.
Everything with love. Stay safe.
At some point, doesn't thinking have to go on?
— Winona Adkins
Visualize whirled peas.
Everything with love. Stay safe.
-
Bill Spight
- Honinbo
- Posts: 10905
- Joined: Wed Apr 21, 2010 1:24 pm
- Has thanked: 3651 times
- Been thanked: 3373 times
Re: Kirby's Study Journal
Giving a new meaning to connect and die?Kirby wrote:I played against KGS 2d today. I won, but it was really lucky. It should have been capturing race, and I think he could win, maybe.
But anyway, he just let me connect, and he died.
The Adkins Principle:
At some point, doesn't thinking have to go on?
— Winona Adkins
Visualize whirled peas.
Everything with love. Stay safe.
At some point, doesn't thinking have to go on?
— Winona Adkins
Visualize whirled peas.
Everything with love. Stay safe.
-
Bill Spight
- Honinbo
- Posts: 10905
- Joined: Wed Apr 21, 2010 1:24 pm
- Has thanked: 3651 times
- Been thanked: 3373 times
Re: Kirby's Study Journal
why play 
?The Adkins Principle:
At some point, doesn't thinking have to go on?
— Winona Adkins
Visualize whirled peas.
Everything with love. Stay safe.
At some point, doesn't thinking have to go on?
— Winona Adkins
Visualize whirled peas.
Everything with love. Stay safe.