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Re: Pippen vs. whomever danplayer comes first here
Posted: Mon Oct 27, 2014 3:23 pm
by drmwc
Pippen wrote: Since it came from drm..., a 4d, well' continue like this, Black to play now:
Why drm... rather than drmwc? MWC are my initials, and Dr is my title. I guess you may be making a toilet reference. However, I am very English and the correct words for toilet are toilet and loo only.
Re: Pippen vs. whomever danplayer comes first here
Posted: Tue Oct 28, 2014 12:28 am
by quantumf
drmwc wrote: Pippen wrote: Since it came from drm..., a 4d, well' continue like this, Black to play now:
Why drm... rather than drmwc? MWC are my initials, and Dr is my title. I guess you may be making a toilet reference. However, I am very English and the correct words for toilet are toilet and loo only.
Well, I can't speak for Pippen, but I too think of your name being drm-wc. Not because of water closets, but because drm (digital rights management) is a significant concept in today's Internet world. More so than doctor. So for someone wanting to contract your name (a dubious but common desire), drm seemed more than natural then dr - until now, of course, after your explanation.
Re: Pippen vs. whomever danplayer comes first here
Posted: Tue Oct 28, 2014 1:06 am
by Violence
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Re: Pippen vs. whomever danplayer comes first here
Posted: Tue Oct 28, 2014 7:38 am
by Bill Spight
Mr. Sandman, send me a drm.
Re: Pippen vs. whomever danplayer comes first here
Posted: Tue Oct 28, 2014 8:29 am
by Bill Spight
Score estimators are problematic, which is why computer go programs have almost universally abandoned them. The main problem, I think, is that they do not take the strength or weakness of groups into account very well.
The current position, however, lends itself well to tewari.
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stones are goners. We can assess the efficiency of play by pairing them with four Black stones. Tewari is a bit of an art, but how about this pairing?
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It is hard not to think that Black has played more efficiently than White in this area.
Re: Pippen vs. whomever danplayer comes first here
Posted: Tue Oct 28, 2014 10:04 am
by Pippen
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Re: Pippen vs. whomever danplayer comes first here
Posted: Tue Oct 28, 2014 11:09 am
by shapenaji
Re: Pippen vs. whomever danplayer comes first here
Posted: Tue Oct 28, 2014 11:44 am
by skydyr
Isn't F3 one of those whaddayacall'em stones? Light? Is that the word?
More seriously, I think white may still consider the right side stones either light or strong enough right now. That said, if we attach on top of white's most recent move, or play another normal response, what's white's killer sequence?
Re: Pippen vs. whomever danplayer comes first here
Posted: Tue Oct 28, 2014 12:11 pm
by Violence
Re: Pippen vs. whomever danplayer comes first here
Posted: Tue Oct 28, 2014 12:28 pm
by emerus
Pippen wrote: *snip snip*
Sorry for being obtuse but I'm not sure if this is a joke or not.
More constructively, there seems to be some doubt about what white's strategy is. Playing light for the sake of playing light? Attacking for the sake of attacking? Pippen, could you provide us with your judgement of the board?
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Black has 30 points of solid territory and potential on the bottom.
White will perhaps have 10(+komi) points of territory in the lower left quadrant and potential along the top.
Black is 6.2x thicker than white.
I'm not sure how to quantify my positional judgement but I guess white is 25 points behind already. (lost about 2h stone)
Re: Pippen vs. whomever danplayer comes first here
Posted: Tue Oct 28, 2014 1:07 pm
by emerus
Araban wrote:
Personally, I think W's last move was an overplay. The only two possibilities in my head for B were 'a' and 'b', both of which handle the potential weak point at 'c' (although 'a' is more robust; just felt too slow imo):
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Re: Pippen vs. whomever danplayer comes first here
Posted: Tue Oct 28, 2014 1:13 pm
by Pippen
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Re: Pippen vs. whomever danplayer comes first here
Posted: Tue Oct 28, 2014 1:14 pm
by Pippen
emerus wrote:
More constructively, there seems to be some doubt about what white's strategy is. Playing light for the sake of playing light? Attacking for the sake of attacking? Pippen, could you provide us with your judgement of the board?
White is just playing a wait-and-see-strategy, so far.
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p.s.: As for the drm...-stuff, I was just too lazy to write out the whole nick, so I just took the first letters to make sure to whom I refer. No sweat.
Re: Pippen vs. whomever danplayer comes first here
Posted: Tue Oct 28, 2014 2:40 pm
by shapenaji
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I don't see any reason to play "a", it makes the marked stone work again, I'm perfectly happy with the following sequence:
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The corner is still open and we have thickness and sente
Re: Pippen vs. whomever danplayer comes first here
Posted: Tue Oct 28, 2014 3:13 pm
by Pippen
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stones are goners. We can assess the efficiency of play by pairing them with four Black stones. Tewari is a bit of an art, but how about this pairing?
