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Re: The seed's of go
Posted: Sun May 16, 2010 1:00 pm
by wessanenoctupus
Hey pogo,
I really want to believe this, could you post a video of him playing a whole game?
So many people's doubts would be gone.
Re: The seed's of go
Posted: Sun May 16, 2010 1:05 pm
by SoDesuNe
You really think someone would put up the whole thread, just to... eh... fake the progress of a young one in the game of Go?
Re: The seed's of go
Posted: Sun May 16, 2010 1:22 pm
by CarlJung
wessanenoctupus wrote:So many people's doubts would be gone.
I'm intrigued. Who are all these people, besides yourself?
Re: The seed's of go
Posted: Sun May 16, 2010 1:28 pm
by tj86430
SoDesuNe wrote:You really think someone would put up the whole thread, just to... eh... fake the progress of a young one in the game of Go?
I believe someone might, but I don't believe pogo would.
Re: The seed's of go
Posted: Sun May 16, 2010 7:35 pm
by rubin427
Let me just say, I think this has been the most enjoyable thread in a while.
About the 25 kyu rating - seems like SDK playing to me. Maybe the soft rating is why you are having some escapers.
Re: The seed's of go
Posted: Sun May 16, 2010 8:25 pm
by Tyson2011
after seeing a game of his a few nights ago i'd rank him at about 14k, he handled the 17k player relatively easy, but still made some odd mistakes even for my level at 10k...so i dont see him quite being a sdk yet as someone previously stated, but i dont think i will be long
Re: The seed's of go
Posted: Sun May 16, 2010 11:31 pm
by TinStar
POGO wrote:I presume those games were coached by daddy riding "over-watch" on the keyboard
If by this you mean i tell him where to go, Thats something i have been refraining to do. as a father i want him to win. but as a teacher i dont want to "cheat" so usually i type at the start of the game "im sorry if i play a bit slow" and go have a smoke.
I do come and check on it after a while to see if there was a resignation/escaper/entering yose.
the only time i opt to coach him is usually when we are playing aganst each other.
Also going out of town tomarrow and monday, if anyone wants to have a quick game with him i can set him up on kgs in about 2 hours
I actually didn't suspect that you told him where to go; but, perhaps acted as his 'conscience', a la making vague references to what's going on on the board that may moderate his focus. I have no doubt that he plays for himself, since he plays better than you do
Re: The seed's of go
Posted: Mon May 17, 2010 6:27 am
by wessanenoctupus
hey sorry i dont really know pogo; i am really inclined to believe this. My IRL friends were all saying that its probably fake, and so they instilled doubt in my head.
Re: The seed's of go
Posted: Mon May 17, 2010 6:40 am
by topazg
Certainly, 15k by the age of 2 having been playing for only a few months is one of the few times where I would say, if true, he's clearly got professional potential.
At that rate, amateur dan player by 4 is almost slow progress continuing from where he is, and I've never heard of anything like that anywhere in the World.
Re: The seed's of go
Posted: Mon May 17, 2010 10:47 am
by Magicwand
i am not sure of the age but cho hun hyun 9d pro played 5d+ level when he was 4 years old i think.
may be 3 years old.
Re: The seed's of go
Posted: Mon May 17, 2010 12:14 pm
by TinStar
As a professional educator I can attest that people do not learn at a linear rate; so, it is impossible to make accurate projections... Especially since emotional factors usually complicate matters. He may shoot up to a very high-level very quickly, and then either plateau for a long time or even regress as he attempts to supersede his past performance. He's one to watch nonetheless
topazg wrote:Certainly, 15k by the age of 2 having been playing for only a few months is one of the few times where I would say, if true, he's clearly got professional potential.
At that rate, amateur dan player by 4 is almost slow progress continuing from where he is, and I've never heard of anything like that anywhere in the World.
Re: The seed's of go
Posted: Mon May 17, 2010 4:48 pm
by POGO
To those who want a movie unfortuatly that is 200 dollers i do not have to invest in a digital camera.
but. what i can do is take multiple pictures of him playing.
Re: The seed's of go
Posted: Tue May 18, 2010 3:21 am
by Andreas
My son is 2 and a half years old, he can place stones decently (I could make photos of that, too, and any camera manufactured in the last five years can make digital video clips) but he doesnt fully understand the game yet, plus he doesnt have the patience to place stones until a game is finished, even on 9x9. He does bow after putting the stones back into the bowl, though.
As far as I know, very good professionals usually start playing go at about 5 or 6, which sounds realistic since thats the age kids are considered fit for school in most countries.
Re: The seed's of go
Posted: Tue May 18, 2010 5:26 am
by dfan
I started playing chess at 3 and I used to think that was pretty good!
Re: The seed's of go
Posted: Tue May 18, 2010 10:30 am
by TinStar
dfan wrote:I started playing chess at 3 and I used to think that was pretty good!
Coincidentally, so did I... And I beat my Dad at it first when I was 4. Then I gave it up entirely after my 5th B-day---dashing my father's hopes that I'd become the world's next Bobby Fischer. It just wasn't fun anymore, because my Dad had bought books and wanted me to memorize Opening Book sequences and study the game 'with him'. As you might imagine, that's a recipie for burn-out.