79. Marcus (3k) vs. Chew (3k) Open Malkovich

Marcus · Post by **Marcus** » Mon Nov 29, 2010 9:42 am

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Website · Post by **Chew Terr** » Mon Nov 29, 2010 10:45 am

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My opponent still likes S6, so I'm going to look at how it could be used against me.

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Looks okay.

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Miai for safety with 'a' and 'b'.

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After all this, 'a' and 'b' seem to be miai to live.

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If we change the last few moves, these 'a' and 'b' make eyespace instead.

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If we discount S6, we can assume black takes the outside forcing move that removes S6 as an option. However, this seems to come down to ko for life, which is horrible for me. Considering black's threats to move out F3, I'd say that black would win this ko, which is unbearable.

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If I play the marked white location to prevent the last approach, I seem to live, as 'a' and 'b' are miai. In the next diagram, I will play differently as B to try other approaches.

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'a' and 'b' seem to be miai to live again.

As a result, it seems like if I take Q7 (which is semi-sente thanks to its cut threat), I should be safe to tenuki. I could be reading this wrong, but if so, then my reading is worse than my opponent's, and I deserve to lose the fight. As it stands, however, I feel like I have to stand by my reading and take Q7. To work on my own confidence lately, my mantra has been 'trust your reading'. I'll look again before I decide to tenuki, if my opponent defends. If my opponent does not defend, I will strongly consider cutting, because that tends to be fun/scary.

One thing that could happen:

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This doesn't look good for me, so if black threatens something similar, I need to remember to sacrifice P5. Additionally, that means that I shouldn't cut, unless the cutting stone opens up new options.

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Okay, so the fight is entirely different after the cutting stone. If B does not sacrifice Q9, this seems kind of one-way. So if I cut, I'll have to decide if I am willing to sacrifice P5 and possibly O4 to get into the middle by capturing Q9. Worth continuing to look into, methinks. But this is looking to far ahead, when I don't know how my opponent will respond.

Marcus · Post by **Marcus** » Mon Dec 06, 2010 5:25 pm

Hey Chew,

I'm sorry. A personal matter has come up (nothings too serious, don't worry). I'm going to have to put this game on indefinite hold.

It's too bad, because I was really enjoying it.

Website · Post by **Chew Terr** » Tue Dec 07, 2010 8:05 am

Marcus wrote:Hey Chew,

I'm sorry. A personal matter has come up (nothings too serious, don't worry). I'm going to have to put this game on indefinite hold.

It's too bad, because I was really enjoying it.

No problem. Life is more important, so go deal with it. We can always resume this later or start a new one. Thanks a lot for playing with me, it's been a blast.

Marcus · Post by **Marcus** » Sun Feb 06, 2011 7:42 pm

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It's been ages. Let me know if you'd like to continue this one. If so, here's my move. Coming back after a hiatus, the game feels difficult ... but I'm not cooked yet. Let's see what crazy stunts I can pull here.

Website · Post by **Chew Terr** » Mon Feb 07, 2011 10:00 am

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Marcus · Post by **Marcus** » Thu Mar 31, 2011 1:25 pm

I've kind of lost my flow on this game. It just kind of died on me.

Sorry, Chew. I feel I should resign this one at this time.

Maybe later we'll pick up a new game. That sound alright?

Website · Post by **Chew Terr** » Thu Mar 31, 2011 1:35 pm

No worries. This game was a blast, so I'd love to play you again sometime, regardless of location or format. Thank you very much for an exciting game. While you're far from a resignable position on the board, sometimes things just grind to a halt due to other obligations, and so it goes.

Life In 19x19

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