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[go]$$Wcm30 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . O O X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , O X . X . X . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . O X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X O . 9 . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . O . X . O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X X . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . O . O X . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . . . . . . O . O X . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . . . O . . . O . X . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
i think he is trying to cover his weakness at "a" but...it really doesnt look good for black..
bamboo joint is a vital point many times but not in this situation.
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[go]$$Wcm1 :b8: = tunuki
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . O O X . a . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , O X 0 X . X . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . O X 9 . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X O . 1 6 . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . O 2 X 4 O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . 7 3 O 5 O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X X . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . O . O X . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . . . . . . O . O X . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . . . O . . . O . X . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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[go]$$Wcm1 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . O O X . a . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , O X X X . X 7 . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . O X O . 1 3 5 . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X O . O X 2 4 6 . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . O X X X O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . O O O O O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X X . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . O . O X . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . . . . . . O . O X . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . . . O . . . O . X . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
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[go]$$Wcm30 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . O O X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , O X . X . X . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . O X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X O . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . O 0 X . O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X X . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . O . O X . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . . . . . . O . O X . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . . . O . . . O . X . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Day by day, game by game, move by move... I hope that I can get stronger. I hope that I learn from my mistakes. Sometimes my vision seems short-sighted. I will keep walking further into the darkness, though I do not see with precision.

As I write, I notice that the above can be solved by reading. It's easy to say - "Reading". "Read better". "Read further ahead".

But that's why I am weak. Because I stubbornly resist what I know is true, and what I know is correct... Sometimes I resist reading. Sometimes I resist refraining from playing a move that I have already read goes awry.

At least I'm having fun. I'm enjoying these games against Magicwand... Move by move, game by game, day by day.
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[go]$$Wcm40 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . O O X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , O X . X . X . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . O X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X O . O 4 . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . O X X 2 O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . 1 O 3 O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X X . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . O . O X . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . . . . . . O . O X . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . . . O . . . O . X . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
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[go]$$Wcm40 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . O O X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , O X . X 6 X . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . O X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X O . O X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . O X X X O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . O O O O O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X X . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . O . O X . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . . . . . . O . O X . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . . . O . . . O . X . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Bleh...
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What's the point of cutting if you're not going to reinforce the cutting stone? Was there a reason Kirby couldn't play P16 several moves ago?
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[go]$$Wcm40 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . 8 . . . . . . O O X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , O X . X X X . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . O X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O X O . O X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . O X X X O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . O O O O O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X X . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . O . O X . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . . . . . . O . O X . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . . . O . . . O . X . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
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[go]$$Wcm40 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . O O X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , O X . X X X . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . O X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O X O . O X . . . . |
$$ | . . 9 . . . . . . . . O X X X O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . O O O O O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X X . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . O . O X . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . . . . . . O . O X . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . . . O . . . O . X . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

black seems to have more points now but white's thickness will speak later.
i will initiate the ko when the time is right..now is not right time.
it will only bother him if i leave it as is.
initiating ko now is like scratching his back and reliving his itches.
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[go]$$Wcm40 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . O O X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , O X . X X X . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . O X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O X O . O X . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . O X X X O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . O O O O O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X X . . |
$$ | . . . 0 . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . O . O X . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . . . . . . O . O X . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . . . O . . . O . X . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


To be honest, I do not know where to play. This morning I played a game, and I thought I was winning, but I was 14 points behind. This means my positional judgement is not up to par at the moment.

I guess I can't say that I typically have great "positional judgement", because I don't often count. But I do go a lot by feeling these days. Typically at the end of the game, I have a feeling if I am ahead or behind. Today, that feeling failed me.

So I am not sure how I feel about the board position that Magicwand and I have created above. I'd guess he is ahead, since he has profited on the right both on the top and bottom.

I am playing a pincer because I think the top left stones are strong. I am playing high because I want to counter his global influence. I am playing a bit further back, because I want to lower the chance of being counter-pincered.
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E13
edit: also i found that our numbering is wrong. we had move 10 twice.
i will correct the numbering so we use correct move number from now on.

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[go]$$Wcm51 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . O O X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , O X . X X X . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . O X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O X O . O X . . . . |
$$ | . . O . 1 . . . . . . O X X X O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . O O O O O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X X . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . O . O X . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . . . . . . O . O X . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . . . O . . . O . X . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


all i have to do is separate his group so he can not have big points on the board.
my thickness will play his parts and reward me with points later.
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[go]$$Wcm51 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . O O X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , O X . X X X . . . |
$$ | . . . X . 2 . . . . O X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O X O . O X . . . . |
$$ | . . O . O . . . . . . O X X X O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . O O O O O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X X . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . O . O X . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . . . . . . O . O X . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . . . O . . . O . X . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Trying to stay ahead of him here. I don't have a long-term plan behind this move.
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Re: 136. Magicwand vs. Kirby - Fire, Strike, 2 stones again!

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Re: 136. Magicwand vs. Kirby - Fire, Strike, 2 stones again!

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Can you tell us more about :b52: ? Especially with respect to alternatives, white's thickness, your enclosure, white's weak group and your pincer.
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