[go]$$Wcm41 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . X . X . X . . . , . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . O O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . X . 5 . . . , . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . X . . . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . . . . O O X O . . . . O . . . . . | $$ | . . . X . . X O O . O . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . . . O O X X X . O . . O . . . . . | $$ | . . . X . . . . O . X O X . . X . . . | $$ | . . X . . O . X X . X X . O . . . . . | $$ | . . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
This is the sort of ridiculous, nonsensical overplay that will magically work out for him later because he's kickass at reading and tesuji. Exactly what I've come to expect from MW. I'm convinced MW just plops stones around randomly to build aji and then figures out how to use them later with some deep reading. Like if you played your first 25 moves completely randomly and then tried to figure out useful ways to build points and kill stones from that position. Like it's a giant tsumego.
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I think MW is trying to separate black's cutting stones from the rest of his group. Make a fight of it. I'd be interested in knowing how much thought he gives to moves like this. I sincerely doubt he thinks in terms of sector lines like this, though it's a useful mental map for plebs like me. At least thinking in terms of the sector lines the move makes some sort of sense.
$$Wcm41 $$ {LN E14 M10} $$ {LN E14 D10} $$ {LN M10 O7} $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . X . X . X . . . , . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . O O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . X . 5 . . . , . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . X . . . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . . . . O O X O . . . . O . . . . . | $$ | . . . X . . X O O . O . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . . . O O X X X . O . . O . . . . . | $$ | . . . X . . . . O . X O X . . X . . . | $$ | . . X . . O . X X . X X . O . . . . . | $$ | . . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------
[go]$$Wcm41 $$ {LN E14 M10} $$ {LN E14 D10} $$ {LN M10 O7} $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . X . X . X . . . , . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . O O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . X . 5 . . . , . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . X . . . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . . . . O O X O . . . . O . . . . . | $$ | . . . X . . X O O . O . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . . . O O X X X . O . . O . . . . . | $$ | . . . X . . . . O . X O X . . X . . . | $$ | . . X . . O . X X . X X . O . . . . . | $$ | . . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
Re: Magicwand vs. Kirby: Comeback Match!
Posted: Thu Sep 02, 2010 11:57 pm
by Kirby
What do I do with that? Hmmm....
Re: Magicwand vs. Kirby: Comeback Match!
Posted: Fri Sep 03, 2010 7:33 am
by Horibe
Kirby wrote:[
I don't plan on keeping this stone, necessarily, but I think it will be useful in the future.
[quote]Can anyone strong comment on this move and this plan?
I can certainly see that this is a cutting stone. However, at this point, is it really cutting weak groups - or at least anything more immediately weak than anything else.
To me it seems White has maintained a lot of flexibility and I do not believe he would have taken the stone with his next move.
Kirby is right, having the stone might be useful in the future, but by adding the stone he seems to be making a commitment that his comment suggests he does not really mean to make.
Re: Magicwand vs. Kirby: Comeback Match!
Posted: Fri Sep 03, 2010 7:33 am
by Marcus
Kirby wrote:
Does anybody else that's done Malkovich games wish that the pace was faster?
For Kirby:
Yes, indeed. It seems like it take forever sometimes.
Re: Magicwand vs. Kirby: Comeback Match!
Posted: Fri Sep 03, 2010 8:11 am
by Kirby
$$Wcm41 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . X . X . X . . . , . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . O O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . X . O . . . , . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . 6 . X . . . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . X . . . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . . . . O O X O . . . . O . . . . . | $$ | . . . X . . X O O . O . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . . . O O X X X . O . . O . . . . . | $$ | . . . X . . . . O . X O X . . X . . . | $$ | . . X . . O . X X . X X . O . . . . . | $$ | . . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------
[go]$$Wcm41 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . X . X . X . . . , . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . O O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . X . O . . . , . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . 6 . X . . . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . X . . . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . . . . O O X O . . . . O . . . . . | $$ | . . . X . . X O O . O . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . . . O O X X X . O . . O . . . . . | $$ | . . . X . . . . O . X O X . . X . . . | $$ | . . X . . O . X X . X X . O . . . . . | $$ | . . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
Well, honestly, I don't really know where to play. His move seems very weird to me. It might be good for white, but I can't even tell. I thought about tenuki-ing completely. But I think I should play a bit more in this area. I want to get sente, and then tenuki.
Re: Magicwand vs. Kirby: Comeback Match!
Posted: Fri Sep 03, 2010 8:19 am
by Magicwand
$$Wcm41 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . X . X . X . . . , . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . O O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . X . O . . . , . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . 7 X . X . . . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . X . . . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . . . . O O X O . . . . O . . . . . | $$ | . . . X . . X O O . O . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . . . O O X X X . O . . O . . . . . | $$ | . . . X . . . . O . X O X . . X . . . | $$ | . . X . . O . X X . X X . O . . . . . | $$ | . . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------
[go]$$Wcm41 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . X . X . X . . . , . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . O O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . X O O . . . , . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . O X . X . . . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . X . . 0 X . . . X . . . | $$ | . . . . . O O X O . . . . O . . . . . | $$ | . . . X . . X O O . O . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . . . O O X X X . O . . O . . . . . | $$ | . . . X . . . . O . X O X . . X . . . | $$ | . . X . . O . X X . X X . O . . . . . | $$ | . . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
Re: Magicwand vs. Kirby: Comeback Match!
Posted: Fri Sep 03, 2010 1:41 pm
by zinger
It seems really bad to strike at the waist of the knight move, but then not cut.
Re: Magicwand vs. Kirby: Comeback Match!
Posted: Fri Sep 03, 2010 1:44 pm
by hyperpape
Yes, my question about these past three moves, especially the last one of Kirby's has been "are they aji keshi, or was there even aji there to begin with?"
