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by Simba Tue Apr 19, 2011 3:10 am
$$Bcm15 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0
Click Here To Show Diagram Code [go]$$Bcm15 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0EdLee wrote: Jordus, Simba:
In the future, once you are very familiar with fairly common sequences, you can offer a trigger to your opponent;
so for example W could offer this to B as part of
, and B could either accept or decline:
$$Wm16
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by Jordus Tue Apr 19, 2011 3:51 am
$$Bcm25 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0
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I am playing this approach with hopes for white to play (a) or (b) playing to make they group strong...
$$Bcm Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0
Click Here To Show Diagram Code [go]$$Bcm Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0this will allow me to play this sequence which gives me influence towards the center... enabling me to more easily destroy whites chances of large moyos
$$Bcm Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0
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I'm thinking...
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by Simba Tue Apr 19, 2011 9:24 am
$$Bcm25 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0
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Okay, hopefully this pincer is good - seems people were a bit 'argh!' over the last one. My thoughts are that this pincer stops him benifiting fully from playing something like D10, and also I have presence on the top of the board. The fuseki book I'm now studying says that I shouldn't be afraid to use a severe pincer when I have presence on the side of the board adjacent to the pincer (the top in this case). I'm a bit concerned about black having all four corners (because of the proverb), but I don't see why this pincer is bad. We'll see soon enough. Fuseki almost over, yay, then I can play the stronger parts of my game... I just did a quick count - looks like he has ~48 points and I have ~13 + whatever I can make from my moyo on the top. I'd guess I'm behind by 15-20 points, as I expected I would be at the end of the fuseki. But now the weakest part of my game is about to be over with, I can start to work my way back into it hopefully
. If only I didn't always end up ~20 points behind after fuseki, I'd probably be a couple of stones stronger... Hopefully this book will help me with that. It's kind of frustrating that my fuseki skills are like a 15k's, but at least my middlegame and endgame skills are a lot better...
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by EdLee Tue Apr 19, 2011 3:11 pm
Simba,
Another example:
$$W
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, he can offer W the following:
$$W
Click Here To Show Diagram Code [go]$$WIt's just to save a bit of time; in this case, to fast-forward two moves.
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by Kirby Tue Apr 19, 2011 4:26 pm
Go Jordus!
Cheers to Simba, too, of course...
be immersed
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by Kirby Tue Apr 19, 2011 4:28 pm
be immersed
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by Jordus Tue Apr 19, 2011 5:01 pm
$$Bcm25 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0
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I can still play the same direction I originally planned...
white should respond with 2, any other response to the attached stone is bad for white I think.
That leaves me with the choice of a, b or c... I like that b create a wall to the center for me, but a creates better shape and should force white to play d to strengthen their top group... This keeps the flow for me being able to push into the center and destroy possible moyo...
$$Bcm Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0
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I'm thinking...
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by Aphelion Tue Apr 19, 2011 6:17 pm
I feel that all white's pincer's emphasize the wrong side. As black, I would be glad to play a 4-corner game:
$$Bcm25 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0
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by Simba Wed Apr 20, 2011 6:54 am
$$Bcm27 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0
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Okay, I presume he's expecting the hane on the other side of his stone 27. But this hane instead allows me to get the wall I want after the following joseki sequence:
$$Bcm27 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0
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by Jordus Wed Apr 20, 2011 11:07 am
$$Bcm27 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0
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Worst case scenario, white attaches with (a), I attach with (b)... That gives me an anchor into the middle still to prevent large moyos. White is then pretty much forced to play to save their corner, if not I can invade with (c)... Now I have the choice of building out or extending framework...
We will see how that goes though... so far white has managed to thwart my every prediction lol...
$$Bcm27 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0
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I'm thinking...
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by Simba Wed Apr 20, 2011 11:32 am
$$Bcm27 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0
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by Jordus Wed Apr 20, 2011 11:34 am
$$Bcm27 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0
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I'm thinking...
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by Simba Wed Apr 20, 2011 1:03 pm
$$Bcm27 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0
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by EdLee Wed Apr 20, 2011 3:35 pm
Hidden until upper left corner is completely settled.
was impossible. Cut was the only move:
$$B
Click Here To Show Diagram Code [go]$$BBecause the resulting broken shape is very bad for B:
$$B
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by Jordus Wed Apr 20, 2011 3:52 pm
$$Bcm27 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0
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$$Bcm27 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0
Click Here To Show Diagram Code [go]$$Bcm27 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0play here is solid. Even with that top corner I think Black is still ahead some though it is close, however i am well on my way to breaking the center which is to my advantage...
I'm thinking...
, and B could either accept or decline:
$$Wm16
. If only I didn't always end up ~20 points behind after fuseki, I'd probably be a couple of stones stronger... Hopefully this book will help me with that. It's kind of frustrating that my fuseki skills are like a 15k's, but at least my middlegame and endgame skills are a lot better...
, he can offer W the following:
was impossible. Cut was the only move: