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Re: 155: Magicwand vs. mw42

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Re: 155: Magicwand vs. mw42

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Re: 155: Magicwand vs. mw42

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Of Marcus' sequence, I'd want to keima at 64.
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If black cuts of the white stone with 65, I'd attack the black stone on the top with 66 and I'd still have aji the play at a and b to make use of that stone.
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Re: 155: Magicwand vs. mw42

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@Unicorn:

Unicorn wrote:
Of Marcus' sequence, I'd want to keima at 64.
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If black cuts of the white stone with 65, I'd attack the black stone on the top with 66 and I'd still have aji the play at a and b to make use of that stone.


I'm not sure how much aji there is at "b" whilst Black can cut that stone off ... one to the right of "b" maybe.
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Re: 155: Magicwand vs. mw42

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Is M13 a good move now ? Seems like a good reduction of blacks moyo
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Re: 155: Magicwand vs. mw42

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The corner isn't alive yet...
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Re: 155: Magicwand vs. mw42

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Corner isn't alive, but it's ko, so I think it's not big to play. I personally feel like black shouldn't have responded at P18.

I'm also not sure if M13 is bigger than Q8.
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