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Re: #205: The Intrepid vs. topazg: The Pistols
Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2013 9:34 am
by The Intrepid
@Bill Spight
As for my next move, I am contemplating to start some complications via something like this:
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Re: #205: The Intrepid vs. topazg: The Pistols
Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2013 10:05 am
by illluck
Re: #205: The Intrepid vs. topazg: The Pistols
Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2013 10:31 am
by Bill Spight
It is true that the ko is a two step ko. But it is still big, and it is a picnic ko for White.
Oops! Edited Black to White.
Re: #205: The Intrepid vs. topazg: The Pistols
Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2013 1:29 pm
by The Intrepid
$$Wcm38
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All right, let's stir the pot. I aim to cut at e17 as well as to apply pressure against Black stone on L16.
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Re: #205: The Intrepid vs. topazg: The Pistols
Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2013 1:33 pm
by The Intrepid
Bill Spight wrote: It is true that the ko is a two step ko. But it is still big, and it is a picnic ko for Black.
Re: #205: The Intrepid vs. topazg: The Pistols
Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2013 2:29 pm
by topazg
$$Wcm38
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Divide and conquer and all that jazz ...
This indirectly defends against a cut at the top too due to the thingy tesuji:
$$Wcm38
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Re: #205: The Intrepid vs. topazg: The Pistols
Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2013 2:42 pm
by The Intrepid
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Re: #205: The Intrepid vs. topazg: The Pistols
Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2013 2:55 pm
by topazg
$$Wcm40
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Re: #205: The Intrepid vs. topazg: The Pistols
Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2013 3:10 pm
by The Intrepid
Sorry, I'd like to play this instead.
$$Wcm44
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Re: #205: The Intrepid vs. topazg: The Pistols
Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2013 3:18 pm
by skydyr
The Intrepid wrote: Sorry, I'd like to play this instead.
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Click Here To Show Diagram Code [go]$$Wcm44Connecting is not the only option. I could also play as in the game or extend solidly. The advantage of playing the way I did is that I am ahead in the race along the right side. This may give me an option of attacking the Black stone near the bottom-right corner.
This seems like it completely abandons the idea and option of attacking L16 after the presumably unsurprising reply of P15. White does get to attack Q6 instead, but that stone is high and the right side seems to be devalued after all the low plays there. I do not understand.
Re: #205: The Intrepid vs. topazg: The Pistols
Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2013 4:10 pm
by topazg
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Re: #205: The Intrepid vs. topazg: The Pistols
Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2013 4:27 pm
by The Intrepid
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Re: #205: The Intrepid vs. topazg: The Pistols
Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2013 4:34 pm
by topazg
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Re: #205: The Intrepid vs. topazg: The Pistols
Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2013 4:53 pm
by The Intrepid
OK. The moment of truth. I'll take some time to consider my next move, but "a" and "b" seem like natural follow-ups.
$$Wcm46
Click Here To Show Diagram Code [go]$$Wcm46 Also, I should try to make some sort of a score estimate. I'm confident that I was ahead in the opening. Later, I probably let topazg off the hook. Who's leading now?--I have no idea. But, better safe than sorry--right?--so how about I try to kill something really big?
Re: #205: The Intrepid vs. topazg: The Pistols
Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2013 8:12 pm
by Bill Spight
