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Re: Will someone play the killing game with me?

Posted: Sun Aug 07, 2016 11:17 am
by Kirby
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Re: Will someone play the killing game with me?

Posted: Sun Aug 07, 2016 11:25 am
by DrStraw
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Re: Will someone play the killing game with me?

Posted: Sun Aug 07, 2016 11:30 am
by Kirby
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Re: Will someone play the killing game with me?

Posted: Sun Aug 07, 2016 12:06 pm
by Bill Spight
emeraldemon wrote:@bill
can you elaborate on b in your diagram? It doesn't look sente to me.
I guess I should have used the subjunctive. ;) It looks close to sente because after White "b" the push threatens Black stones in two directions.

Edit: Unhidden.

Re: Will someone play the killing game with me?

Posted: Sun Aug 07, 2016 12:18 pm
by DrStraw
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Re: Will someone play the killing game with me?

Posted: Sun Aug 07, 2016 12:34 pm
by Kirby
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Re: Will someone play the killing game with me?

Posted: Sun Aug 07, 2016 12:51 pm
by jeromie
I wouldn't have thought to try that move. Maybe white is hoping for some sort of forcing exchange to turn the circled point into a full eye in sente? I can't quite figure out if black needs to respond, though. I don't think white can capture any stones, but there's also some danger of making a second eye on the side.
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Re: Will someone play the killing game with me?

Posted: Sun Aug 07, 2016 12:53 pm
by DrStraw
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Re: Will someone play the killing game with me?

Posted: Sun Aug 07, 2016 1:09 pm
by Kirby
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Re: Will someone play the killing game with me?

Posted: Sun Aug 07, 2016 1:17 pm
by DrStraw
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Okay, one eye. But I don't see another so I am going to remove the bad aji here.

Re: Will someone play the killing game with me?

Posted: Sun Aug 07, 2016 1:25 pm
by Kirby
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Re: Will someone play the killing game with me?

Posted: Sun Aug 07, 2016 1:55 pm
by jeromie
@Kirby
Have you read out a second eye at this point?

Re: Will someone play the killing game with me?

Posted: Sun Aug 07, 2016 2:06 pm
by DrStraw
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Re: Will someone play the killing game with me?

Posted: Sun Aug 07, 2016 2:09 pm
by Kirby
I'll think about it a little bit.

No comment, jeromie.

Re: Will someone play the killing game with me?

Posted: Sun Aug 07, 2016 4:43 pm
by Kirby
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I guess it was naive to think he'd play out the ladder. Nonetheless, there's still aji.