Kirby wrote:@Magicwand:Thanks for the comments. I can understand your rationale about the probe. In regard to the following comment:Magicwand wrote:...
his style is 100% point oriented game. it will fall apart like janga once it reachs the critical point.
right now i dont have any point pressure because i know i will get compensations out of my influence.
but i think he is starting to feel influence pressure.
even his corner defense i didnt like. if i was black i would play other marked point.
he will need to tradeoff his points for thickness orelse this game will not last too long.
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I do not know if my own style reflects it, but I must say that I feel more comfortable with more points - so I can understand someone that likes a "point oriented game".
But you said that you don't have any point pressure because you know you "will get compensations out of my influence".
How can you be certain that you will get compensation? Also, even if you know you will get compensation, how do you quantify it and know that it will be enough to counter the points that black has?
i used to be point oriented also.
i know how import the point is. but lee changho changed the point oriented game into thickness oriented game.
if you go after the point you might reach a point where you can not streach your points no more.
then you will lose points here there everywhere and lose.
but thickness oriented game is different. you are comfortable as long as you maintain the point balance upto certain degree.
then you must be able to tell howmuch your thickness worth. which will come when you reach next level up.
one good example: my recent game against topazg is a perfect example.
i think i maintain the balance of point and thickness up to certain point.
and i got greedy try to distroy his whole bottom.
but actually it was a mistake on my part.
i was winning playing thick and didnt need to invade.
i am trying not to make that mistake in this game.
for your question: experience will tell you if your thickness is enough.
most professionals in korea will try not to comment who is better.
they usually say "if this part is settled then we can get accurate count".
i think that is exactly the situation here.
it all depends on who gets sente and how does one gets sente.
i already explained what is big and where is urgent and i know my opponent is thinking samething.
as of now i dont think i am losing.
i know how import the point is. but lee changho changed the point oriented game into thickness oriented game.
if you go after the point you might reach a point where you can not streach your points no more.
then you will lose points here there everywhere and lose.
but thickness oriented game is different. you are comfortable as long as you maintain the point balance upto certain degree.
then you must be able to tell howmuch your thickness worth. which will come when you reach next level up.
one good example: my recent game against topazg is a perfect example.
i think i maintain the balance of point and thickness up to certain point.
and i got greedy try to distroy his whole bottom.
but actually it was a mistake on my part.
i was winning playing thick and didnt need to invade.
i am trying not to make that mistake in this game.
for your question: experience will tell you if your thickness is enough.
most professionals in korea will try not to comment who is better.
they usually say "if this part is settled then we can get accurate count".
i think that is exactly the situation here.
it all depends on who gets sente and how does one gets sente.
i already explained what is big and where is urgent and i know my opponent is thinking samething.
as of now i dont think i am losing.
might be sente now (at least, I hate
below, but tenuki also doesn't feel right to me...):

? How do you think it stacks up against one of the more normal joseki ?