#143 1986 vs Nathan

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Re: #143 1986 vs Nathan

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[go]$$Wcm56 Prisoners:
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . X . . . . . . X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . X , . . . . . X . X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . X O O . . |
$$ | . . . , . . X . . X . . . . X X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O O |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . X . . O . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O . . . X O . O . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . O X X . X 1 X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O O O X X O . O . X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Here I am theatening to split his group and allows for the follow up move of n5 to create an atari and move out to the center
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[go]$$Bcm57 Prisoners:
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . X . . . . . . X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . X , . . . . . X . X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . X O O . . |
$$ | . . . , . . X . . X . . . . X X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O O |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . X . . O . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O . . . X O . O . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . O X X . X O X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O O O X X O . O 1 X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


well everybody knows i have been talking about this fight for a long time now, the big difference is im alot more solid on the left side and these two white stones (m3 o3) are already dead, well lets see if my reading paid off, i was expecting the nobi next :study:
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[go]$$Bcm57 Prisoners:
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . X . . . . . . X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . X , . . . . . X . X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . X O O . . |
$$ | . . . , . . X . . X . . . . X X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O O |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . X . . O . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O . . 2 X O . O . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . O X X . X O X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O O O X X O . O 1 X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


This move keeps sente and pushes out to the center and also begins to threaten to connect.
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[go]$$Bcm59 Prisoners:
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . X . . . . . . X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . X , . . . . . X . X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . X O O . . |
$$ | . . . , . . X . . X . . . . X X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O O |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . X . . O . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O . . O X O . O . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . O X X 1 X O X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O O O X X O . O X X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


this is sente of coruse i gotta stay connected and keep him seperated, thats a basic thing in Go
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:w58: is another move that I think I remember at around their level. It's sente right? Yes, but so is extending. This move just induces black to fix his weakness while not getting much in exchange.
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For Nathan, after the game,
Nathan wrote:This move keeps sente...
One common misunderstanding/confusion at these levels is good sente moves versus bad ones:
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[go]$$Bm57
$$ . . X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ . . . . X . . O . O . . . |
$$ . . . O . . 2 X O . O . . |
$$ . . . O X X 3 X O X O . . |
$$ O O O X X O . O 1 X X . . |
$$ . . X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$----------------------------[/go]
With :w58: - :b59: you immediately make a broken shape for yourself:
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[go]$$B
$$ . . X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ . . . . X . . O . O . . . |
$$ . . . O . . Q X O . O . . |
$$ . . . O X # # # O X O . . |
$$ O O O X X Q . Q X X X . . |
$$ . . X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$----------------------------[/go]
As Puppycakes noted, if you simply extend with :w1:, it's also sente, but with better shape:
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[go]$$W
$$ . . X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ . . . . X . 1 O . O . . . |
$$ . . . O . . . X O . O . . |
$$ . . . O X X . X O X O . . |
$$ O O O X X O . O X X X . . |
$$ . . X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$----------------------------[/go]

Not all sente moves are good. Some are bad sente moves.
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . X . . . . . . X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . X , . . . . . X . X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . X O O . . |
$$ | . . . , . . X . . X . . . . X X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O O |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . X . . O . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O . . O X O . O . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . O X X 1 X O X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O O O X X O . O X X X 2 . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]



Sorry for my slow play... I will try and play faster.
My head hurts... :-?

Ok so here are some rambling thoughts

My group has a lot of aji here so I need to get more solidified before I venture too much further out.
I need to settle to create at least one eye near the wall.

I am considering both o7 and p7 to solidify my position but they also ffeel very passive.

I am considering s3 to settle and put a little pressure on his group. But it feels like it will be gote.

I could try and play p8 but I think my group is too weak to start attacking.

Also after all this corner business he has built up a huge moyo that will be difficult to come back from. But giving up doesnt sound fun at all.

The more thinking this game requires the more I am procrastinating each move. Not good.. Need to start being more diligent.
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . X . . . . . . X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . X , . . . . . X . X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . X O O . . |
$$ | . . . , . . X . . X . . . . X X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O O |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . X . . O . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O . . O X O . O . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . O X X X X O X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O O O X X O . O X X X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . . 1 . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


im expecting Nathan to connect or nobi either way i can swallow up the stones to the left if i ever feel like this group gets under pressure, i wonder how he is planning on making life over here, thats what im thinking about hmmmn :study:
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[go]$$Bcm61 Prisoners:
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . X . . . . . . X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . X , . . . . . X . X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . X O O . . |
$$ | . . . , . . X . . X . . . . X X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O O |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . X . . O . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O . . O X O . O . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . O X X X X O X O . 2 |
$$ | . . . . . . O O O X X O . O X X X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . . 1 . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


I am worried about him playing the sequence below to steal my eyespace But at this point I dont know what I can do about it.

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[go]$$Bcm61 Prisoners:
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . X . . . . . . X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . X , . . . . . X . X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . X O O . . |
$$ | . . . , . . X . . X . . . . X X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O O |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . X . . O . O 5 4 . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O . . O X O 3 O 6 . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . O X X X X O X O . 2 |
$$ | . . . . . . O O O X X O . O X X X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . . 1 . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
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$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . X . . . . . . X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . X , . . . . . X . X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . X O O . . |
$$ | . . . , . . X . . X . . . . X X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O O |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . X . . O . O . 1 . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O . . O X O . O . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . O X X X X O X O . O |
$$ | . . . . . . O O O X X O . O X X X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . . X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


he is trying to create some eyes, not on my watch im going in for the kill :rambo:,

first im going to hit the vital point, well its more like the area where it will be easiest for him to make eyes, and its a nice one space jump from my stone, so its a natural progression instead of just a shot in the dark, another benefit is it makes q5 so detrimental

:study:
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$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . X . . . . . . X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . X , . . . . . X . X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . X O O . . |
$$ | . . . , . . X . . X . . . . X X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O O |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . X . . O . O . 1 . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O . . O X O 2 O . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . O X X X X O X O . O |
$$ | . . . . . . O O O X X O . O X X X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . . X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Connects and keeps potetial eyespace at P6

:mad:
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$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . X . . . . . . X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . X , . . . . . X . X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . X O O . . |
$$ | . . . , . . X . . X . . . . X X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O O |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X . . . . . 1 . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . X . . O . O . X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O . . O X O O O . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . O X X X X O X O . O |
$$ | . . . . . . O O O X X O . O X X X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . . X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


i think i jinxed myself calling out the kill shot he saw through my plan. so now for peep, if he connects here i will continue to press in on his eye space, if not i will see what hes thinking and adjust :rambo:
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$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . X . . . . . . X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . X , . . . . . X . X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . X O O . . |
$$ | . . . , . . X . . X . . . . X X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O O |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X . . . . . 1 . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . X . . O 2 O . X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O . . O X O O O . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . O X X X X O X O . O |
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ok so some random attempts at reading shown below

The corner looks close but not quite at being dangerous so I will save it for ko later.

I am not confident in this working out but I dont see any alternatives either.

edit.. Once I posted this I see that the corner invasion may actually work... :study: must do further reading

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ok, now to start enclosing this group, i want to reduce eye space with s5, but i must enclose first or he will just run for his life and that would mess up my moyo :rambo:
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Can't let him seal me in that easily.

I am expecting him to play n8 ... something like below is my goal.

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