[go]$$Bc $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . O . . . . . . . O . . . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . , . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X . X O O O , . . . . . , . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . O X X O O X . . B . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . X O O X X . . . . X . . . . . | $$ | . . . X O O . X O . O . X . . X . . . | $$ | . . . . X O . X . . X O . O . . . . . | $$ | . . . X . . . . O O X O X O . X . . . | $$ | . . X . . O . X X X O . . O . . X . . | $$ | . . . X O . . . . . O . . . . O . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
Purpose of this is to make my group unassailable. It also gives me a huge moyo. White's dragon can be pressured still. I now have no weak groups. I most likely have a lot of cash on the left (I suspect he will try some sort of invasion there next). I have some cash and extensive potential on the right. White has 15 or so points on the bottom and potential on the top. I estimate (to early to be able to count this) that I'm at least ten, but more likely 20 or 30 points ahead. I do not think I have lost any (certainly not a whole stone's worth) of my handicap advantage yet.
Re: ??. Magicwand (3d) vs. daniel_the_smith (1k)
Posted: Mon Jun 21, 2010 3:36 pm
by Magicwand
$$Bc $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . O . . . . . . . O . . . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . , . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . W X . X O O O , . . . . . , . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . O X X O O X . . X . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . X O O X X . . . . X . . . . . | $$ | . . . X O O . X O . O . X . . X . . . | $$ | . . . . X O . X . . X O . O . . . . . | $$ | . . . X . . . . O O X O X O . X . . . | $$ | . . X . . O . X X X O . . O . . X . . | $$ | . . . X O . . . . . O . . . . O . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------
[go]$$Bc $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . O . . . . . . . O . . . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . , . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . W X . X O O O , . . . . . , . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . O X X O O X . . X . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . X O O X X . . . . X . . . . . | $$ | . . . X O O . X O . O . X . . X . . . | $$ | . . . . X O . X . . X O . O . . . . . | $$ | . . . X . . . . O O X O X O . X . . . | $$ | . . X . . O . X X X O . . O . . X . . | $$ | . . . X O . . . . . O . . . . O . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
Re: ??. Magicwand (3d) vs. daniel_the_smith (1k)
Posted: Tue Jun 22, 2010 5:22 am
by Magicwand
taking two stone is sente. after i get my sente back from the left side i will attack as below. everything is going fine. my opponent is playing well but not enough to win the game.
$$Wc $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . O . . . . . . . O . . . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . , . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . W X . X O O O , . . . . . , . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . X . 4 5 . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . O X X O O X 8 3 X 9 . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . X O O X X . 6 7 . X 1 . . . . | $$ | . . . X O O . X O . O . X . 2 X . . . | $$ | . . . . X O . X . . X O . O . . . . . | $$ | . . . X . . . . O O X O X O . X . . . | $$ | . . X . . O . X X X O . . O . . X . . | $$ | . . . X O . . . . . O . . . . O . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------
[go]$$Bc $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . O . . . . . . . O . . . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . , . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O X . X O O O , . . . . . , . . . | $$ | . . . B . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . O X X O O X . . X . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . X O O X X . . . . X . . . . . | $$ | . . . X O O . X O . O . X . . X . . . | $$ | . . . . X O . X . . X O . O . . . . . | $$ | . . . X . . . . O O X O X O . X . . . | $$ | . . X . . O . X X X O . . O . . X . . | $$ | . . . X O . . . . . O . . . . O . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
OK, this seemed kind of obvious when I looked at the diagrams in my last post. I was inexplicably concerned by a white move at D7, but white ends up with two deadish groups after that, so it's clearly bad. I think white can live small (hopefully in gote) after this move. O15 looks like a good point for me after white gets stable. Hmm, or maybe L10...
Re: ??. Magicwand (3d) vs. daniel_the_smith (1k)
Posted: Tue Jun 22, 2010 12:03 pm
by Magicwand
$$Bc $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . O . . . . . . . O . . . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . , . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O X . X O O O , . . . . . , . . . | $$ | . . . X . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . O X X O O X . . X . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . X O O X X . . . . X . . . . . | $$ | . . . X O O . X O . O . X . . X . . . | $$ | . . . . X O . X . . X O . O . . . . . | $$ | . . . X W . . . O O X O X O . X . . . | $$ | . . X . . O . X X X O . . O . . X . . | $$ | . . . X O . . . . . O . . . . O . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------
[go]$$Bc $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . O . . . . . . . O . . . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . , . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . W . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X 1 . 6 . . . . . . . . . . X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O . 2 4 3 . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . X 5 . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O X . X O O O , 7 . . . . , . . . | $$ | . . . X . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . O X X O O X . . X . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . X O O X X . . . . X . . . . . | $$ | . . . X O O . X O . O . X . . X . . . | $$ | . . . X X O . X . . X O . O . . . . . | $$ | . . . X O . . . O O X O X O . X . . . | $$ | . . X . . O . X X X O . . O . . X . . | $$ | . . . X O . . . . . O . . . . O . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
Re: ??. Magicwand (3d) vs. daniel_the_smith (1k)
Posted: Wed Jun 23, 2010 11:20 am
by daniel_the_smith
The longer I thought about this move the harder it is to find a good response. I was going to play the move in the third diagram here but now I think I'm going to spend some more time looking at the move in the first diagram...
The normal move gives white this sequence, which I cannot read all the way out. could also be a one space jump if this doesn't work out for white.
$$Bc $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . O . . . . . . . O . . . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . , . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X 1 7 . . . . . . . . . . . X . . | $$ | . . 5 4 2 8 . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . 6 O 3 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O X . X O O O , . . . . . , . . . | $$ | . . . X . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . O X X O O X . . X . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . X O O X X . . . . X . . . . . | $$ | . . . X O O . X O . O . X . . X . . . | $$ | . . . X X O . X . . X O . O . . . . . | $$ | . . . X O . . . O O X O X O . X . . . | $$ | . . X . . O . X X X O . . O . . X . . | $$ | . . . X O . . . . . O . . . . O . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------
[go]$$Bc $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . O . . . . . . . O . . . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . , . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X 1 7 . . . . . . . . . . . X . . | $$ | . . 5 4 2 8 . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . 6 O 3 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O X . X O O O , . . . . . , . . . | $$ | . . . X . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . O X X O O X . . X . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . X O O X X . . . . X . . . . . | $$ | . . . X O O . X O . O . X . . X . . . | $$ | . . . X X O . X . . X O . O . . . . . | $$ | . . . X O . . . O O X O X O . X . . . | $$ | . . X . . O . X X X O . . O . . X . . | $$ | . . . X O . . . . . O . . . . O . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
This is the point I want, but removes nearly all aji in the corner. I hate to give white 30 solid points like that, even though my moyo is huge and all further moves against his dragon are sente.
$$Bc $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . O . . . . . . . O . . . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . , . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X 2 . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O X . X O O O , 1 . . . . , . . . | $$ | . . . X . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . O X X O O X . . X . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . X O O X X . . . . X . . . . . | $$ | . . . X O O . X O . O . X . . X . . . | $$ | . . . X X O . X . . X O . O . . . . . | $$ | . . . X O . . . O O X O X O . X . . . | $$ | . . X . . O . X X X O . . O . . X . . | $$ | . . . X O . . . . . O . . . . O . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------
[go]$$Bc $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . O . . . . . . . O . . . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . , . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . B O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O X . X O O O , . . . . . , . . . | $$ | . . . X . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . O X X O O X . . X . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . X O O X X . . . . X . . . . . | $$ | . . . X O O . X O . O . X . . X . . . | $$ | . . . X X O . X . . X O . O . . . . . | $$ | . . . X O . . . O O X O X O . X . . . | $$ | . . X . . O . X X X O . . O . . X . . | $$ | . . . X O . . . . . O . . . . O . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
OK, I'm going with it. I think I could win that complicated capturing race I mentioned in my last post, but in doing so I'd be pushing white's dragon into my moyo. If I see a flurry of comments we'll know this was a mistake...
Re: ??. Magicwand (3d) vs. daniel_the_smith (1k)
Posted: Wed Jun 23, 2010 12:25 pm
by SpongeBob
k43r wrote:
Last two diagrams shows that Daniel the smith needs to learn basics of tewari.
below in sente. If I don't protect this ahead of time, white gets to play 
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could also be a one space jump if this doesn't work out for white.